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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Innocent Drinks proudly sharing content today from the "legends" at er, Mermaids

153 replies

Fenlandia · 30/05/2023 13:20

Purveyors of overpriced fruit pulp, Innocent, have been tweeting today some advice for being more inclusive. Seems like the internet is broken at Innocent HQ as no-one seems to have spotted why Mermaids have been in the news just this weekend (never mind over the last few months, and the ongoing investigation by the Charity Commission). Don't brand managers ever check if a partner might be a bit detrimental to their own reputation?

https://twitter.com/innocent/status/1663489437668462593

Fill your gender identity bingo cards with tweets about deadnaming, misgendering and mixed-sex toilets. Why a drinks brand feels the need to shout this at Twitter users is beyond me.

It's only been up for an hour or so and you can imagine how it's going down on Twitter!

https://twitter.com/innocent/status/1663489437668462593

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Waitwhat23 · 30/05/2023 20:56

bellac11 · 30/05/2023 20:55

What does ratio mean on twitter, I keep seeing references to it

When there are loads of views but hardly any likes. A recent tweet by Nancy Kelley of Stonewall had over a million views and (afaikr) about 400 likes.

Doyoumind · 30/05/2023 20:59

bellac11 · 30/05/2023 20:55

What does ratio mean on twitter, I keep seeing references to it

Basically, when the number of replies and/or quote tweets outnumbers the number of likes - i.e. more people disagree than agree.

bellac11 · 30/05/2023 21:00

Very interesting thanks

Doyoumind · 30/05/2023 21:03

Waitwhat23 · 30/05/2023 20:56

When there are loads of views but hardly any likes. A recent tweet by Nancy Kelley of Stonewall had over a million views and (afaikr) about 400 likes.

Visibility of the number of views is actually a fairly recent feature. It's more about how people engage.

Waitwhat23 · 30/05/2023 21:08

Found it. It was over 3 million and just over 200 likes.

twitter.com/Nancy_M_K/status/1657427311036170242?s=20

Comments had been 'only mentioned' so engagement was minimised but it's always interesting to read the Quote Tweets if there's loads of them.

ExhaustedAlready · 30/05/2023 21:08

Thankyou for the email link.

My email to them:

Hello Innocent Smoothies,
I'm just writing to let you know, as a supporter and mum of 4 who has spent hundreds and hundreds of pounds on your products over the last decade, I will never buy one of your products again.

Your tweet regarding the charity Mermaids who are under investigation for child safety issues and appointed a paedophile to their board has completely decimated any brand loyalty I held for your company.

I would think very carefully about who your target demographic is and who holds the purse strings in regards to the weekly shop. Typical mums. Mum's who recognise the danger in gender ideology trend and will do anything to protect their children from falling victim to it.

Including boycotting virtue signalling companies who align themselves with charities that activitly encourage child genital mutilation.

dragonbreaths · 30/05/2023 21:09

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2023 14:39

I got a very frosty response on MN years ago when I said I couldn't see the point of smoothies. The human race managed perfectly well without them until recent years.

they're only good with alcohol added to make a daiquiri

JanesLittleGirl · 30/05/2023 21:11

Juice one orange (using an old-fashioned hand juicer) and pour the juice into a blender. Remove the skin and stone from a peach, chop into a few pieces and add to the blender. Chuck four or five strawberries into the blender. Blend.

Why do you need Innocent?

bellac11 · 30/05/2023 21:14

Or just eat the fruit

So Im quite enjoying all this, reading all the responses to their new announcement and thankfully many people are pointing out that gender or gender identity is not a protected characteristic (and nor should it be) but sex is.

JanesLittleGirl · 30/05/2023 21:22

Actually, considering some of the god-awful concoctions that Innocent has come up with, I'm not at all surprised by the current position.

BluebellBlueballs · 30/05/2023 21:28

Waitwhat23 · 30/05/2023 20:56

When there are loads of views but hardly any likes. A recent tweet by Nancy Kelley of Stonewall had over a million views and (afaikr) about 400 likes.

They were the ones that had accidentally pressed the like button

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 30/05/2023 21:36

JulieHoney · 30/05/2023 15:45

Now now, friend, we all know yellow cabs don’t count, Douglas and Martin were very clear on that
😂

They do in Liechtenstein.

ArthnoldManacatsaman · 30/05/2023 21:37

JulieHoney · 30/05/2023 15:10

One of the constant joys of MN is how often posters find an excuse to post Cabin Pressure content.
🍋

I’m obviously reading the wrong threads as I’ve seen hardly any CP content before today. Nice to meet you all anyway 🍋

Shhhquirrel · 30/05/2023 21:41

Won’t be buying any more of their smoothies

mummywithtwokidsplusdog · 30/05/2023 21:45

I’ve just emailed innocent to let them know they’ve lost me as a customer- will be interesting to see if they reply.

Blort · 30/05/2023 21:55

Thelnebriati · 30/05/2023 13:31

The thread is now unrolled and archived although I'm sure they wouldn't dream of deleting it.
archive dot ph/Q1OJS

You called it Grin

Dinopawus · 30/05/2023 22:01

Shhhquirrel · 30/05/2023 21:41

Won’t be buying any more of their smoothies

Innocent identitying as a healthy drink has always irritated me. But yes, now two reasons not to buy them.

AccidentallyFabulous · 30/05/2023 22:03

ArthnoldManacatsaman · 30/05/2023 21:37

I’m obviously reading the wrong threads as I’ve seen hardly any CP content before today. Nice to meet you all anyway 🍋

That's because it's hiding in a box smaller than it is.

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:04

bellac11 · 30/05/2023 20:55

What does ratio mean on twitter, I keep seeing references to it

Generally, looking at the responses to a tweet suggest how it's been received.

If a tweet has many views, few 'likes', and lots of comments, that suggests a 'ratio' of people disagreeing with it.

So, Nancy Kelley's tweet supporting the transwoman playing rugby had 3 million views, and about 200 'likes'.

She'd turned comments off, for some reason.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2023 22:10

ArthnoldManacatsaman · 30/05/2023 21:37

I’m obviously reading the wrong threads as I’ve seen hardly any CP content before today. Nice to meet you all anyway 🍋

You'll find us in Radio Addicts for the most part, I think. There's been a lovely MN thread recently offering advice to a MNer about her imminent wedding which she and her husband to be want to have a Cabin Pressure theme, which is worth seeking out.

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:11

ArabeIIaScott · 30/05/2023 22:04

Generally, looking at the responses to a tweet suggest how it's been received.

If a tweet has many views, few 'likes', and lots of comments, that suggests a 'ratio' of people disagreeing with it.

So, Nancy Kelley's tweet supporting the transwoman playing rugby had 3 million views, and about 200 'likes'.

She'd turned comments off, for some reason.

ucksake, sorry, I missed all the other replies explaining this, somehow!

IGoWalkingAfterMidnight · 30/05/2023 22:11

Their 'explanation' for deleting the original tweet isn't going the way they'd like either...

https://twitter.com/innocent/status/1663614472341057536?s=20

This should probably be archived before it disappears too (I don't know how!)

https://twitter.com/innocent/status/1663614472341057536?s=20

Littlesprouts · 30/05/2023 22:11

Fenlandia · 30/05/2023 20:24

Called it - you're all a bunch of meanies who pointed out uncomfortable facts. Wahhhhhh wahhhh waaaah.

https://twitter.com/innocent/status/1663614472341057536

They deleted their whole thread because "the comments weren't in line with our values". Oh, that's priceless!

ArthnoldManacatsaman · 30/05/2023 22:15

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2023 22:10

You'll find us in Radio Addicts for the most part, I think. There's been a lovely MN thread recently offering advice to a MNer about her imminent wedding which she and her husband to be want to have a Cabin Pressure theme, which is worth seeking out.

Sounds delightful, thank you so much for letting me know 🙂

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2023 22:17

ArthnoldManacatsaman · 30/05/2023 22:15

Sounds delightful, thank you so much for letting me know 🙂

Found it. https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/radio_addicts/4801015-cabin-pressure-fans-assistance-required?latest=1