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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Antipodean fruit growers 3 - Is the Kiwi a Dodo or a Phoenix?

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Bosky · 26/05/2023 03:34

Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4632616-antipodean-fruit-growers-2-canary-in-the-internet-coal-mine

Front row seat on the seemingly eternal battle between Jersh (aka Suzi Quatro's Fat Nan) and his Merry Band of Farmers against the Transpowered Forces of Internet Censorship.

1st Thread - Antipodean fruit grower statement
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4620584-antipodean-fruit-grower-statement

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 14/09/2025 16:54

god you lot are so much more patient than me. I'd got as far as typing "'FWR' isn't one person you absolute weirdo"

I accept that your approach is probably more productive than mine

TheJoyOfWriting · 14/09/2025 18:40

NicCageisnotNickCave · 14/09/2025 14:04

My early internet era was things like BMEZINE and Rotten.com which I imagine you would also find shocking.

The big difference between my time and Null’s was the amount of minors online (and their parents inability to understand or moderate what their teens were doing).

My children are mostly older than you (and younger than Null) but when I mentioned wanting to protect my youngest from seeing the full video of Charlie Kirk’s murder my eldest reminded me of all the beheading videos that his age group were exposed to. The Internet is a wild place.

Didn't you find BMEZINE and Rotten shocking?

I know very well what they are. People who choose to modify their bodies being mocked- can't really see a huge issue unless they're vulnerable.

Rotten - wouldn't you agree that providing graphjc violence like that all in one place had nothing but a negative impact?

I still don't think either of those is as bad as threatening to rape & dismember someone.

NicCageisnotNickCave · 14/09/2025 19:00

BMEZINE was people sharing their own body mods with other likeminded people, no mocking. I didn’t find it shocking because I was an adult and I already knew that world pretty well, albeit I’ve always been more involved with the tattoo side of it rather than the tongue splitting or modern fakir hook-hanging stuff.

Rotten wasn’t my personal idea of a good time but no, I didn’t find it particularly shocking (but then a lot of the material shared was historical, rather than happening in real time). Also, it was all still images back then and most of the material came from crime scene investigations or foreign press (I was shocked that images that I saw via Rotten were published on the front pages of mainstream tabloid news papers in various South American countries though, because obvs kids can see newsstands).

The problem with exposing minors to graphic or adult material is it shapes how their brains develop.

BettyFilous · 14/09/2025 19:10

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 13:34

Why are you posting all this here? Go ask them?

I was about to post similar. This poster seems oddly invested in shit posting about KF and just asking a question here when their questions would be better posted on KF.

TheJoyOfWriting · 14/09/2025 20:07

Fruityful · 01/12/2024 21:51

It's back up as of a few minutes ago. For complex reasons (not glossing over them to be patronising, merely to avoid a twelve paragraph post), a large spike in demand had a backlash effect on the database and it all went arse over tit. Null is having to restore from yesterday's backup but due to the size of the database and the fact he's apparently travelling this weekend, it's taken a little while.

And what caused the spike in demand? Apparently one of their favourite lolcows accidentally leaked video of himself sucking a cock. So next time someone tells you that the Kiwifarms is homophobic, tell them that the site was literally brought down by its userbase clamouring to see two men having sex.

Well doesn't mean they're necessarily positive about gay people...Considering their content is often disgusting and 'car crash' type stuff, doesn't this just mean they're watching as a gross-out?

SionnachRuadh · 14/09/2025 20:15

TheJoyOfWriting · 14/09/2025 20:07

Well doesn't mean they're necessarily positive about gay people...Considering their content is often disgusting and 'car crash' type stuff, doesn't this just mean they're watching as a gross-out?

I don't know the thought processes of the people watching. You could always ask them.

nothingcomestonothing · 14/09/2025 20:19

TheJoyOfWriting · 14/09/2025 20:07

Well doesn't mean they're necessarily positive about gay people...Considering their content is often disgusting and 'car crash' type stuff, doesn't this just mean they're watching as a gross-out?

You're answering a post from last December.

Just go to KF and have a look around since you're clearly extremely interested in what's there. This is FWR not the KF information bureau.

HollywoodTease · 14/09/2025 20:20

Ffs. A post from nearly a year ago resurrected? You really are trawling here aren't you.

How does a wide-eyed innocent like you who apparently knows nothing about KF know that the content is "disgusting" or a "car crash"?

You're getting tedious now.

If you want to know what's on KF go and look. Otherwise, maybe get a life and stop with the disingenuous bollocks eh?

TheJoyOfWriting · 14/09/2025 20:30

HollywoodTease · 14/09/2025 20:20

Ffs. A post from nearly a year ago resurrected? You really are trawling here aren't you.

How does a wide-eyed innocent like you who apparently knows nothing about KF know that the content is "disgusting" or a "car crash"?

You're getting tedious now.

If you want to know what's on KF go and look. Otherwise, maybe get a life and stop with the disingenuous bollocks eh?

The fascination w people like Chris Chan does seem to fall under 'gross-out', esp some of the things KF users asked him to do. I understand the site has somewhat moved kn since that era though, according to people here.

BordoisAgain · 14/09/2025 20:42

You seem to be a bit obsessed by Chris Chan.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 20:42

Read it, don’t read it, campaign for its removal, whatever. It’s nothing to do with anyone here.

DoinFineIThink · 14/09/2025 21:07

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 14/09/2025 13:36

I’m gonna ask again @TheJoyOfWriting , why are you so invested in what a bunch of British mums think about an American gossip site?

God, this is such a ridiculous comment that is always trotted out on this type of thread.
I mean, this is literally a thread about them, so why shouldn't someone ask a question about the thread topic?!
If it's not complete group think responses, it's feigning innocence and dumbness "wah, we're not their mum, why not ask them?"
Or "we're all just little mummies on here, what would we know?!" 🙄

Namelessnelly · 14/09/2025 21:08

nothingcomestonothing · 14/09/2025 20:19

You're answering a post from last December.

Just go to KF and have a look around since you're clearly extremely interested in what's there. This is FWR not the KF information bureau.

You found know @TheJoyOfWriting you can go to KF and ask Josh all these questions. He may even answer you. Why are you so invested in KF? Are you Josh’s mum and this is an attempt at an advertising campaign? It’s a novel concept I grant you.

DoinFineIThink · 14/09/2025 21:10

Why are you so invested in KF?
Bit rich on a thread of going on for a thousand comments and 40 pages (and it's thread 3 of them... )

TheJoyOfWriting · 14/09/2025 21:11

BordoisAgain · 14/09/2025 20:42

You seem to be a bit obsessed by Chris Chan.

I've mentioned him repeatedly bc it's arguably the worst thing KF have been accused of bc it's the most verifiable. Wasn't the site set up in the first place to harass him?

Namelessnelly · 14/09/2025 21:12

DoinFineIThink · 14/09/2025 21:07

God, this is such a ridiculous comment that is always trotted out on this type of thread.
I mean, this is literally a thread about them, so why shouldn't someone ask a question about the thread topic?!
If it's not complete group think responses, it's feigning innocence and dumbness "wah, we're not their mum, why not ask them?"
Or "we're all just little mummies on here, what would we know?!" 🙄

I’m just on this thread to make sure I get invited to the KF/Mumsnet mixer. I’m just confused as to why one poster is spamming the thread with naive “facts” about KF the fact this is thread 3 kind of suggests the people on it are well aware of the nature of KF.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 14/09/2025 21:17

DoinFineIThink · 14/09/2025 21:07

God, this is such a ridiculous comment that is always trotted out on this type of thread.
I mean, this is literally a thread about them, so why shouldn't someone ask a question about the thread topic?!
If it's not complete group think responses, it's feigning innocence and dumbness "wah, we're not their mum, why not ask them?"
Or "we're all just little mummies on here, what would we know?!" 🙄

they're not asking about KF particularly though are they? they're asking tedious faux naive questions about what posters on here think

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/09/2025 21:38

Namelessnelly · 14/09/2025 21:12

I’m just on this thread to make sure I get invited to the KF/Mumsnet mixer. I’m just confused as to why one poster is spamming the thread with naive “facts” about KF the fact this is thread 3 kind of suggests the people on it are well aware of the nature of KF.

Edited

Have they set a date for it yet? A Christmas one might be nice.

Haulage · 14/09/2025 21:42

we're all just little mummies on here, what would we know?!

🤭🤡

Haulage · 14/09/2025 21:47

I’ve not gone on KF for at least a couple of years. Might have to take another look and see what all this desperate bollocks is about 😊

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 14/09/2025 22:14

@TheJoyOfWriting you mentioned the 'right to be forgotten'

That doesn't relate to the entire Internet 🤦‍♀️

No one has the right to have random crap they have posted about themselves / that is in the public domain forgotten. How do you think that would work wrt any other forum or social media site?

I think you're getting your GDPR training in a muddle...

teawamutu · 14/09/2025 22:49

Two posters who've been on MN for two weeks at most, similar username types and scoldy writing styles.

Total coincidence I'm sure.

unwashedanddazed · 14/09/2025 22:55

Would you like us to send Josh to his room?

dapsnotplimsolls · 14/09/2025 22:57

Haulage · 14/09/2025 21:47

I’ve not gone on KF for at least a couple of years. Might have to take another look and see what all this desperate bollocks is about 😊

I wonder if the PP has realised that they've probably increased traffic to the site 😁

DoinFineIThink · 14/09/2025 23:44

teawamutu · 14/09/2025 22:49

Two posters who've been on MN for two weeks at most, similar username types and scoldy writing styles.

Total coincidence I'm sure.

😂🙄

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