Caroline F - new arrest / harassment ?

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Caroline has just posted on twitter that the police were trying to force entry - WTF going on?

Three officers saying she has to go with them.

Three.

twitter.com/cf_farrow/status/1651514281471492096?s=46&t=rbPMHI1uvxUAiQC4E1EE3A

Is she wanted for an offence?
Has there been an allegation made against her?
Is it an ongoing incident?
Whats the necessity of the arrest?

3 officers - possibly two officers are double crewed that day and the third was MOE (method of entry trained) who was asked to attend if the door was not being opened.

She is not being 'dragged out' - she is allowed to finish her shower and get ready.

It's such a bizarre carry on. That they have officers to spare to police a disagreement on the internet?

Felix.

Give it a fucking rest.

@Felix125 do you have an alert set up or something, for any posts in Feminism that mention arrest/police/officer?? Without fail, you post something minimising and tedious on any thread relating to the police.

3 officers - possibly two officers are double crewed that day and the third was MOE (method of entry trained) who was asked to attend if the door was not being opened

Three officers to arrest one woman sounds like intimidation to me. And what if she'd been out rather than in the shower - do they just kick the door in and leave it for her to find when she comes home? and why would they assume she wouldn't open the door?

MrsDanversGlidesAgain ·

So you have powers under section 17 PACE to force entry if required. But this will depend on the necessity of the arrest. I would suggest if they have heard movement in the address, they will believe someone is in. If she was out they would not have entered.

3 officers to arrest one women - its probably one officer who is dealing with this particular job. That officer was double crewed that day; they can't just leave their colleague on a corner whilst they attend the address so ts one-to-one

The third officer was probably summonsed in order to open the door (snap the lock) - not ever officer is trained in this.

It depends on what the offence is and what the initial report was by the reporting person/victim as to effect the necessity.

AlisonDonut
Its a public forum - if you can't add anything to the debate other than just abuse I suggest you give it a rest 🙂

RoseslnTheHospital
Do you have something set up, as you post on similar debates.
Is it a case that you're allowed to do this but I am not?

You know its the content of recent tweets that the police are objecting to. That's urgent and necessitates this level of response, does it, Felix? Really? When the police don't respond to burglaries, car thefts, assaults etc etc... Ok then. Carry on police-splaining about how great this all is, do.

It depends on what the offence is and what the initial report was by the reporting person/victim as to effect the necessity

So what would be the alleged offence ( I notice you don't call it alleged, I'm sure that's an oversight) that warrants the door being bashed in? I watch Police Interceptors a lot (guilty pleasure) and usually it's for drug raids or where someone is reported to be armed. Not a woman who has previously been arrested, presumably by the same force.

Like I said, it smacks of intimidation.

RoseslnTheHospital

Not at all - I'm answering a question posed by the poster who started the thread. Do I have to be a woman to post here...?

Do you know what she was arrested for then, what the initial caller/victim has stated and what the necessity of the arrest was?

Did she get charged for her kiwifarms posts from the last arrest?

Imagine though if everyone ignored Felix and his posts. Just skip over them

I do that with a couple of other posters as well, because it's just repetitive sea-lioning. Makes my head quieter that way.

As you well know, I'm questioning why you feel entitled to post, Felix, not whether you should be allowed to or not.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain
Was it bashed in or have they just changed the lock?

Its not just drug raids that this can be done. Section 17 PACE powers can be used for anyone who is wanted for an offence. If you believe that person is in there and there is a necessity to arrest that person.

bare in mind that s17 in this case is used for the purpose of entering to effect an arrest. We can't use to just to see who is in there, or decide if they are going to be arrested once we are in.

The necessity could be a victim's safety (has threat been made or alleged). Is the alleged crime continuing? Have officers exhausted other routes to stop the crime or interview the suspect?

I read yesterday that the Home Secretary told the Police to quit this political harassment behaviour.

It still seems like overkill to me. And isn't it 'alleged' offence?

Because it a question that has been posed that I can answer or can give an insight to

That it comes across that officers were bored that day, so decided to take 3 of them to arrest a woman just for shits & giggles

I suggesting (from my 20 years experience) that this will not be the case.

Actually it's not just GC beliefs, in this case they damaged church property too.

All offences are alleged - that's why they need to be investigated

Also how much time did they give her to answer the door before smashing it in? How long does a shower take?

Yes we must break into her house to stop her tweeting facts.

Very urgent.

Needs 3 blokes to stop her.

So how can a person be convicted of an offence then? Offence needs an adjective to describe it.

Isn't Caroline Farrow's Police & Crime Commissioner Lisa Townsend (Surrey)? The one who firmly rejected the capture by Stonewall?

I wonder what she thinks of all this.

Not describing it as alleged rather gives the impression that an offence has been committed, rather than it having to be decided if that's the case.