Stephen Whittle inciting violence against KJK/LWS Belfast

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twitter.com/stephenwhittle/status/1647298393746685955?s=46&t=zg2PMywW3TnboZg5Z47SOw

I suspect that there are plenty of people in the gender identitarian set who know full well that radfems and conservatives are different, but dishonestly pretend that we aren't to smear radfems.

What is wrong with being conservative, anyway? It is sometimes good to conserve and preserve that which has been proven to work. Radical change just for the sake of it is not progressive.

I’m a bit of a Pollyanna myself so while I agree it IS depressing I mostly find myself thinking THANK FUCK for the second wavers.

Thank FUCK there were enough of them still active in the UK that they were able to sound the alarm and wake up more and more women.

I found a copy of the Spare Rib for Girls book (‘Girls Are Powerful’ IIRC?) at a jumble sale when I was a teen in the early 90s but apart from that I grew up not really thinking about feminism much at all because it seemed that women’s equality issues had been (more or less!) dealt with, at least in GB (although I did get a very rude awakening when I was
pregnant with my eldest and my employer tried to get out of paying for my maternity leave).

So yep, it’s depressing but imagine if it had taken another 20 years to get to this point and we’d already lost Germaine Greer and Sheila Jeffreys and Linda Bellos et al?

Thank fuck for the second wavers ❤️

In the context of the venn diagram, conservative refers to upholding strict male and female social roles, opposing homosexuality, attitudes of "you're a girl so no car mechanicking for you, get to the kitchen".

There is no point in progressivism for the sheer sake of it that’s for sure, unless the aim is to progress humanity off a cliff!

Apparently some incels become trans women who want to be like wives to actual Nazis.

You could search online for transmaxxing, but you'll want the brain cleaning brush afterwards.

To bring this thread back on topic, here are a couple of comments from Stephen Whittle’s
Reddit account that seem to
confirm that some members of the transgender community, both historical and current day, have had far right associations.

The first comment refers to the rumour that the Nazis destroyed Hirschfield’s papers not because the Nazis hated transsexual or homosexual people but to protect the privacy of transsexual and/or homosexual Nazi officers and the second is in relation to a transgender member of The Oathkeepers (Wikipedia describes The Oathkeepers as a ‘far right militia’).

Both comments can be viewed directly via the following link: https://www.reddit.com/u/1955Stephen/

haXXor · Today 17:24
Apparently some incels become trans women who want to be like wives to actual Nazis.

You could search online for transmaxxing, but you'll want the brain cleaning brush afterwards

I dread to think. Their fantasy of a trad wife.

^Not God but a swastika
So black no sky could squeak through.
Every woman adores a Fascist,
The boot in the face, the brute
Brute heart of a brute like you^
(Very troubling poem ‘Daddy’ by Sylvia Plath)

It also seems that a pre-trans phase before “ cracking the egg” is being a Nazi - which, once a person has transitioned, they put down to having been been a projection of their internalised transphobia. Their transition creates a form of cleansing of their Nazi past.

It looks as though they have gone on to accuse women’s rights supporters of being Nazi’s on the same basis.

Narcissistic trans activists are projecting their own nazism on to anyone who doesn’t validate them.

I don't recall anyone being endorsed at the Belfast LWS.

Fair play to Posie's team-they were quick to withdraw some homemade posters, (think it was a quote but the wording referred to punching down), & bring the police over to have a word with the woman who brought them. She went willingly to talk to the police, it was no drama. I can't imagine the trans activists trying to stop or withdraw anything that might have been construed as provocative.

What is a feminist - there are thousands of different agendas, mainly women who believe in equality of the sexes - it's Latin for woman, so we are all feminists, if not why wind us up on here. Protecting womens spaces - feminism - there isn't a fag paper between them.

EmotionalSupportHyena · Today 17:38
Re the screen shot from Stephen Whittle’s site -

I am not sure what he wants people to make about the original Nazi’s protection of their transgender secrets?

In the other screen shot, SW seems to be endorsing the idea of the poor ostracised, bullied, loner-victim transgender person being prey to joining groups of bad people just so as to belong.

He is explaining one of the Capitol Hill attackers.

The same argument could be used about the transman child and teacher killer.

This made me think that by this argument wouldn’t it be right to say that poor, ignored, possibly bullied autistic or children’s home children are drawn to [an also deleterious] trans group identity not because they are trans but in order to belong?

SW also says you get outliers in any group.
Yes, but then admit that transpeople include some violent and dangerous people. They are not a pure, innocent or untroubled cast different from anyone else - in fact they may possibly be more troubled according to SW.

Hence the reason for sex-based spaces for women and the things PP is asking for, because some transwomen would be examples of the bad outliers.

Preserving single sex spaces could certainly be seen as a conservative position. We want to conserve them because we know they are needed and we know they, largely, work and achieve what they are meant to.

Some people - see 'sex' itself as a conservative construct, rather than a biological reality.

Fuck all as far as i can make out

It is the so-called progressives/gender ideologues who are the ones upholding strict male and female social roles: “you’re a car machanic? You must be a boy!”

And “homosexual - is sexual racism” or “bigoted genital preference”

@EmotionalSupportHyena
What a complete bore, Stephen is. A wall of text to say "men who say they are women can be far right too".

I wonder if there's research around the political affiliations and voting patterns of the men who say they are women. I bet there are plenty who are on the right (Conservatives and Republicans) and a fair few on the far right.

Caitlyn Jenner is a registered Republican.

Both the religious conservatives and the gender ideologues think that activities and clothing and personality traits are gendered. The difference is: the cons weld the gender traits to sex, so if you're born with a vulva, you're a woman and no mechanicking for you; the genderists claim that sex is irrelevant, so if you are born with a vulva and like mechanicking, you're probably a transman.

This is one of my favourite images. The subject is a Tyneside shipyard welder. I was furious when, during a trip to Newcastle a few years ago, I saw posters of this image with "Girls Will Be Boys" written on it to advertise an exhibition. No, she's not a "boy", she's a woman and doing welding does not make her male. She is a woman and a welder and she is inspirational because she didn't just weld, she lived in wartime Tyneside with the Luftwaffe bombing her and that takes serious ovaries.

haXXor · Today 12:39
What a fabulous photograph of that wonderful girl, thank you.

@hhaXXor She is my hero.

So about the same size as many of the males with a trans identity threatening and assaulting women. Should they be reported to the police too? What about the tall bloke who smashed a 70 year old woman’s skull? Should he be reported….?

Just catching up with this thread. I see the furious plopper has had their arse handed to them.

Although I dislike Matt Walsh, I do like seeing his real life demonstration of the Mumsnet plopper in his videos:

<But I have spoken, why are they not all bowing down, oh no, I have no more 'arguments', let's try some whataboutery, oh that isn't working either = blank stare>

Spotting which of my posts got nuked, I reckon some people find certain truths too uncomfortable to allow to stand, despite them being evidenced with lots of receipts...