Well done Irish Parents! Protest today in Co Dublin against Trans ideology in schools! Link to video inside!

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https://gript.ie/keep-gender-ideology-out-of-schools-protesters-gather-in-dublin/

Link to video inside! 11 minutes covering the parents protest in Swords Co Dublin today. Protesting against the proposed sex education in primary schools. There was a small counter protest who had a very loud alarm trying to drown out the poor parents.

Watch the video, very encouraging!

@Flounder2022 'I couldn't care less that he says all migrants are rapists and murders and feck the consequences of that.'

Only person that sentiment emanated from is you, in your post. One need not agree with the sentence you posted, and still belief in safeguarding and the welfare of children and young teenagers. Just like one can agree with a democratic system without supporting slavery or denying women suffrage as was Aristotles view. This thread is about the suitability of resources being directed at children and young teenagers by the Dept of education (via HSE).

Now, as you have alluded to (and seem to hold dear) guilt by association (whataboutery); what about this Juno Dawson person? Does this person (and the authors of the other 'fisting' books) support the ideology that regards the chopping off surgical removal of the healthy breasts of girls and women? Since you state one cannot amplify someone they do not agree with on other issues, how do you reconcile your alleged passion about the desirability of breastfeeding with uncritical defence of these materials?

But this discussion has not been about 'trans ideology' and as someone who is not a trans activist but does consider myself an ally, if I'm on twitter for example I always ensure I check out the previous content of anyone before I engage with their tweets, whether that's sharing, liking or commenting.

I do not hold the same views as you when it comes to trans people so I would not use the language you use to describe the procedure and do not agree with your position on it.

Which is why it comes as a surprise to no one, that you are targeting the credibility of a man who has come out against men who consider themselves women, writing books for teenage girls.

Dawson is entirely upfront about their homophobia, can't disguise their misogyny, and is a proponent of surgery, hence the self harming character in one of the 'Queen of Teens' books being delighted with their new 'perky little boobs'.

The parents in Ireland, are just coming across those books and the inappropriate content and are fuming.

Targeting their political beliefs won't stop that.

@Datun aside from this topic which you are in agreement with him on, which of his other viewpoints, that he has public expressed, do you find credible?

Haha! Really? I'm not trawling through this bloke's social media to find out what else he thinks! I don't even know his name.

He has highlighted the completely inappropriate nature of books recommended for youngsters. Job done.

In terms of him personally, it's a 3 minute video clip, as far as I'm concerned. You know way more about him than I do. Thanks for the heads up, but I hate to break it to you, I wasn't intending on inviting him to dinner.

@Datun i told @Flounder2022 the exact same thing, I've no intention of social media stalking the dad,how bizarre! I couldn't give a shite about what he gets up to but he advocated for the kids & parents in Ireland to a fantastic response! I hope he takes on the cause of getting back single sexes for biological women!

Flounder2022

Now here's my question.

Do you think that schools should be allowing their youth, gay or straight, to read books from a male individual who describes homosexuality as a consolation prize?

Parents will side with the devil to safeguard their children. You and your allies need a plan B.

fine, defend the credibility of a man you admit you know nothing about

Have you a link to that so I can read it in context? I have done a search and can't find it. Thanks

No instead we'll just continue to attack the credibility of a book that we do know something about.

@Link3 yes, cos everyone on here read the book!

Really? Again.

If you just search Juno Dawson and consolation prize, you get umpteen different links.

‘I think there are a lot of gay men out there who are gay men as a consolation prize because they couldn’t be women. That was certainly true of me.’

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/author-thinks%E2%80%98a-lot-of-gay-men-are-gay-men-as-a-consolation-prize-because-they-couldn%E2%80%99t-be-women%E2%80%99.3438005/

@Datun 100 percent. Never a truer word said. This obsession with the dad is crazy. @Flounder2022 go to the facebook comments the support for the parents & the shock & disgust is real. However you want to deny it attacking the poor dad advocating for the safeguarding of his kids & the nations children.

@Datun thank you. And yes really, nothing came up that was clearly referencing this

No. We are defending his analysis of these books. Because we know who the author is. Dawson isn't shy about their opinions.

On perky little boobs, sex with strangers, and men being gay is a consolation prize for not being a 'woman'.

Dawson is a good writer. The appeal to youth is obvious.

But along with the banter and tolerance, is the minimisation of the effect our porn soaked society has on youth, especially girls.

Dawson isn't, and never has been a young girl. It's unsurprising that they don't get it.

@Flounder2022 I do not hold the same views as you when it comes to trans people so I would not use the language you use to describe the procedure and do not agree with your position on it

I posted about girls and women who are having their healthy breasts surgically removed for cosmetic reasons, not 'trans people'. I know you are trying to shoehorn a lot in - masking cognitive dissonance and hypocrisy under the guise of virtue. I'm not really the audience to buy that bs and glibness. It appears the professed passion for breastfeeding is very conditional if one scratches the surface.

It is quite sad that these girls and women won't have the choice to breast feed if they have babies. I had no inkling I would breastfeed, but my consultant mentioned it to me when I was attending ante-natal appointments. It was greatly encouraged and the advantages laid out. I'm so glad I did. There is something of the divine about it. A mother's ability to keep her child alive (and thriving) with the magic of her body. Thankfully (for me and bubba), a crowd of shysters hadn't the opportunity to have a malign influence on me, nor was there the a normalisation of the barbarous surgical removal of the breasts of girls and women for cosmetic reasons.

There was the symphysiotomy, and the abuse by those in trusted positions of church and state. Women's healthcare appalling, and it still is; extra ways to damage Irish women now. Guess this is the new cohort of gobsh*tes. I do wonder why we have to keep importing and pushing these misogynistic and homophobic ideologies.

https://gript.ie/that-book-was-gay-and-therefore-sacrosanct/

Very interesting article from the Gript about why the book was never questioned. So nice to see the status quo questioned & called out!

I wouldn't mind so much, if Dawson even knew what gay was, given the book is called this is gay.

According to Dawson their male partner is heterosexual, which makes Dawson heterosexual.

"as with handjobs and breakfast eggs, all men like their blow jobs served in different ways” and “it’s about sliding your mouth up and down the shaft of his cock”.

Or her cock, presumably.

Self-serving jibber jabber.

Excellent article in Grift, spot on.

@Grammarnut I thought it was excellent too.

https://eu.press-citizen.com/story/news/education/k-12/2023/03/30/this-book-is-gay-removed-from-iowa-city-schools-shelves-after-threats-northwest-junior-high/70059902007/

The Irish protest is very civilized compared to this. Bomb threads are never acceptable. The school was evacuated twice.

Blimey, in that article the school all but blame Libs of Tik Tok for the anonymous bomb threats.

Defamatory, I would say.