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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

65 year old man breaks into daycare center.

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HolyShmoakes · 06/04/2023 14:46

Drinks baby formula, steals nappies and leaves a note and money asking of Staff will play along with his delusions and treat him as a little girl named 'Baby Danielle'

What makes me sick is that he went through the dirty nappy bin.

As a parent that would turn my stomach.

He did this TWICE.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/man-accused-entering-day-care-expressing-desire-be-baby-girl/A6ZD5ZRSS5GKBDPXZGNCZISQ3U/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook

Man accused of entering day care, expressing desire to be baby girl

Daniel Seeler allegedly left notes and cash at the day care center.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/man-accused-entering-day-care-expressing-desire-be-baby-girl/A6ZD5ZRSS5GKBDPXZGNCZISQ3U

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EpicChaos · 07/04/2023 21:22

" FFS, stop with the smearing "

I'll bet that's what his family and neighbours think, funnily enough! He's a health hazard.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:24

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:20

So why did he break and enter the nursery and steal the nappies and ask to be looked after and treated as baby Danielle?

Why did he do it? How can you claim it's nothing to do with role playing as baby Danielle when he actually said that himself?

Which bit are you managing to separate out? How? I simply do not understand what you think was going on, if you think this was nothing to do with his identity.

You don't want to assess the motives of this one offender. You want to try and imply its something to do with trans people.

Wanting to roleplay also, doesn't inherently lead you to breaking and entering. Deciding it's ok to break and enter is the problem here.

Anyway you know all this, you're being deliberately transphobic.

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 21:24

I think what's being said and what's being read aren't the same thing.

The point is that women are repeatedly told that the population wishing to have privileged access to their spaces and to be exempted from some safeguarding boundaries can have this because there is never anyone within the population who is inappropriate or unsafe to be there. This is another named case that proves that this is untrue, this population is the same as all other populations as you would expect, and cannot be exempted on those grounds. This does not mean that every person with a gender identity is seen with prejudice; it merely means can we all agree that having a gender identity is not incompatible with also committing crime and inappropriate sexual behaviours. In the same way that being female is not incompatible with the above, being disabled is not incompatible with the above, having O neg blood type is not incompatible with the above.

Another point is that before the mob in NZ went entirely mad, women who were speaking out for women's rights were being told that because someone's aunt's hamster once looked sideways at someone with dodgy associations, every woman wanting rights and in any way associated was a Nazi.

So the 'do not tar entire populations on the behaviour of one person' bit I entirely agree with, but the double standards are somewhat ironic.

LisaPandervump · 07/04/2023 21:29

@Wonderingiforifnot seems much more bothered about the breaking and entering part being associated with being trans and not the fact that a 65 year old man wants to be treated like a baby girl. Says it all.

Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2023 21:29

The only person doing any smearing is the grown man transfemale/ transage baby in the article.

It is not the the fault of the women on here that for the past few years we have had acceptance without exception shoved down our Fucking throats by trans lobby groups.

We've been forced to accept people claiming they are the opposite sex, the wonders of transage, a furry, a man in a gimp suit, a man dressed as a dog in leather being petted by children. Paedophiles being rebranded as Minor Attracted People. All of which under the queer theory adherents are all scooped up under the trans umbrella

So for those that are finding the actions of this one particular individual in the article a little to unpalatable for your liking as a member of the special, oppressed most marginalised of marginalised people trans group and you think it makes the whole trans movement look bad. Tough. live with it.

we will continue to discuss people like this man in this board until the trans movement/lobbies have a Fucking word with themselves and sort their shit out and start distancing themselves from the bloody weirdos.

Us women in here didn't put them under the trans umbrella. Someone did. Go whinge at them.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:32

LisaPandervump · 07/04/2023 21:29

@Wonderingiforifnot seems much more bothered about the breaking and entering part being associated with being trans and not the fact that a 65 year old man wants to be treated like a baby girl. Says it all.

Specifically, what do you think it says? This is a pretty vacuous post but easier than addressing the points I've made.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:36

Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2023 21:29

The only person doing any smearing is the grown man transfemale/ transage baby in the article.

It is not the the fault of the women on here that for the past few years we have had acceptance without exception shoved down our Fucking throats by trans lobby groups.

We've been forced to accept people claiming they are the opposite sex, the wonders of transage, a furry, a man in a gimp suit, a man dressed as a dog in leather being petted by children. Paedophiles being rebranded as Minor Attracted People. All of which under the queer theory adherents are all scooped up under the trans umbrella

So for those that are finding the actions of this one particular individual in the article a little to unpalatable for your liking as a member of the special, oppressed most marginalised of marginalised people trans group and you think it makes the whole trans movement look bad. Tough. live with it.

we will continue to discuss people like this man in this board until the trans movement/lobbies have a Fucking word with themselves and sort their shit out and start distancing themselves from the bloody weirdos.

Us women in here didn't put them under the trans umbrella. Someone did. Go whinge at them.

My point is that this article doesn't make trans people look bad, apart from to desperate transphobes! Nor am I trans, you don't have to be too hate these smears.

Anyway, transphobic types will keep making the same bs arguments. Hopefully MN will delete as much of the smears as possible and you can be happy knowing bigots are piling on with you.

LisaPandervump · 07/04/2023 21:37

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:32

Specifically, what do you think it says? This is a pretty vacuous post but easier than addressing the points I've made.

It says to me that you think it’s acceptable that some revolting, perverted pedophile men want to be treated as baby girls.
You have to accept this as you advocate for trans ideology. Not accepting this would
open up a can of worms for you. So you focus on the breaking and entering part.

Hope that clears it up.

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:37

The breaking and entering is not the problem here.
The man has made a fetish out of stealing children's nappies. That is the problem.

He has done this because..... he likes burgling nurseries and accidentally picked up a bag of soiled nappies while he was there? No, that was his purpose and his motivation.

You say I want to try and imply its something to do with trans people. No. You are trying desperately to claim it's nothing to do with trans people, despite the guy himself saying it's to do with him being a baby girl- trans age and transgender.

That's like claiming that the guy who assaulted Posie Parker did it because he likes soup, and likes throwing stuff.
No, he targeted her deliberately, for political reasons to do with him being trans or a trans supporter.
Want to try and wiggle out of that one, too? Again, his own words would prove you wrong.

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:39

And you can shout "Mum, he's picking on me!", as much as you like but we all know the truth.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:41

I'm shouting 'you're transphobic' and you're obsessive with it. And useless at refuting arguments!

LisaPandervump · 07/04/2023 21:42

Does anyone actually give two shits about being called ‘transphobic’ any more? I don’t. shrugs

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:46

And yet you haven't explained why you think he did it, if it was nothing to do with Baby Danielle.

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:47

You aren't arguing , just shouting and pointing- look, look a transphobe!

Well No one's that interested in who you call transphobic. We're too busy looking at the adult male calling himself a baby girl and knocking soiled nappies.

Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2023 21:52

LisaPandervump · 07/04/2023 21:42

Does anyone actually give two shits about being called ‘transphobic’ any more? I don’t. shrugs

Hmm let me think.

Flicks to page 78 of book

65 year old man breaks into daycare center.
GailBlancheViola · 07/04/2023 21:54

I'm loving al this you're smearing trans people from the same mouths that if a woman breathes in the same air as someone who votes Tory they are a fascist, right wing, nazi, etc., etc.

Your side have spent countless hours smearing women and men who disagree with Gender Ideology @Wonderingiforifnot insisting that anyone who does oppose GI is culpable for everyone who does, you do this gleefully - see, see, who else thinks the same as you - and yet when the shoe is on the other foot the story changes.

Before anyone who doesn't agree with GI speaks your side expects them to read out a list of all the people/organisations who they don't align with, if Gender Ideologists and TRAs were required to do the same you'd still be doing so 12 hours later as the list is very, very, long.

Your side can dish it out but you sure as hell can't take it.

This man falls under the Trans Umbrella, his actions are directly connected to his trans status if you don't want to admit that fact, tough, he is part of the trans community.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:54

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1Week · 07/04/2023 21:56

I misread that as "arguing with biology"

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:57

Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2023 21:52

Hmm let me think.

Flicks to page 78 of book

Oh no, you posted a page from a book of shite poems. Now you've won the argument 😄

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:58

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You say that I'm useless at refuting arguments. You don't even try.

You've not made one attempt to explain what you think. I've tried to imagine what you might think but due to my clear limitations I'm failing. You could try a bit harder if you want to change anyone's minds. Or even, you know, contribute! You can't just point and shout, it's not how it works.

HatThatWearsYou · 07/04/2023 22:00

You have been repeatedly transphobic by the ideology's tenets of faith. You keep denying baby Danielle's self identified girlhood. That is very bigoted of you and is now considered a hate crime I think?

Self ID is still the thing right? Better be careful or you'll find yourself on the wrong side of history.

Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2023 22:01

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:36

My point is that this article doesn't make trans people look bad, apart from to desperate transphobes! Nor am I trans, you don't have to be too hate these smears.

Anyway, transphobic types will keep making the same bs arguments. Hopefully MN will delete as much of the smears as possible and you can be happy knowing bigots are piling on with you.

I never said you were trans.

So for those that are finding the actions of this one particular individual in the article a little to unpalatable for your liking as a member of the special, oppressed most marginalised of marginalised people trans group and you think it makes the whole trans movement look bad. Tough. live with it.

In this paragraph I'm referring to the man in the article as being the transperson. Not you personally. Apologies, it's my my night typing!

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 22:02

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:58

You say that I'm useless at refuting arguments. You don't even try.

You've not made one attempt to explain what you think. I've tried to imagine what you might think but due to my clear limitations I'm failing. You could try a bit harder if you want to change anyone's minds. Or even, you know, contribute! You can't just point and shout, it's not how it works.

I've made my points very clearly, I'm happy they're there for anyone to read! I know I'm not going to change your mind with any logic but at least some of the smears have been deleted.

Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2023 22:04

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:57

Oh no, you posted a page from a book of shite poems. Now you've won the argument 😄

You say Shite. Amazon said No 2 in the poetry best sellers.

Unfortunately i was kept off the number spot by a crime novel identifying as poetry!

65 year old man breaks into daycare center.
HatThatWearsYou · 07/04/2023 22:04

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:41

I'm shouting 'you're transphobic' and you're obsessive with it. And useless at refuting arguments!

Quote fail.

My above post was in response to this one.