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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

65 year old man breaks into daycare center.

171 replies

HolyShmoakes · 06/04/2023 14:46

Drinks baby formula, steals nappies and leaves a note and money asking of Staff will play along with his delusions and treat him as a little girl named 'Baby Danielle'

What makes me sick is that he went through the dirty nappy bin.

As a parent that would turn my stomach.

He did this TWICE.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/man-accused-entering-day-care-expressing-desire-be-baby-girl/A6ZD5ZRSS5GKBDPXZGNCZISQ3U/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook

Man accused of entering day care, expressing desire to be baby girl

Daniel Seeler allegedly left notes and cash at the day care center.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/man-accused-entering-day-care-expressing-desire-be-baby-girl/A6ZD5ZRSS5GKBDPXZGNCZISQ3U

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Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2023 20:00

to smear trans people

As opposed to the trans person in the article smearing the contents of children's nappies god knows where.

1Week · 07/04/2023 20:03

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/04/2023 20:11

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Sadly the complete failure of trans lobby groups (as opposed to individuals who should not be held responsible) to make any comment about the paedophiles / porn advocates in children's charities, the large number of trans sex offenders, the physical abuse and threats of sexual violence issued by trans activists at women for speaking out can only lead one to assume that they're in support of all this.
What's that phrase - silence is complicity?

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 20:12

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Slightly less emotive wording than your deleted posts, but still disgusting. 'Ordinary trans people' are not under any obligation to ensure they are 'not mistaken for pervs'.

That is transphobic.

You are still smearing trans people and you couldn't (rightly) with any other minority group!

Saucery · 07/04/2023 20:14

Any comment on you getting Trans Is Not A Fetish mixed up with ‘transphobia’ @Wonderingiforifnot ?

I mean, that rather suggests you are someone who hears ‘Trans’ and thinks ‘Fetish’, does it not? If you don’t read the words inbetween and jump to that conclusion.
How awful Sad

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 20:19

Saucery · 07/04/2023 20:14

Any comment on you getting Trans Is Not A Fetish mixed up with ‘transphobia’ @Wonderingiforifnot ?

I mean, that rather suggests you are someone who hears ‘Trans’ and thinks ‘Fetish’, does it not? If you don’t read the words inbetween and jump to that conclusion.
How awful Sad

No idea what you're trying to ask here, it's clear as mud to me.
I'm sure it's some very clever & entirely none transphobic gotcha.

1Week · 07/04/2023 20:23

I'm Irish and happy to denounce the atrocities committed by the IRA, they never acted in my name - even though I'm broadly in favour of a United Ireland.

See? It's very easy, communities have been doing forever.

Trans people should too.

Saucery · 07/04/2023 20:25

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Saucery · 07/04/2023 20:26

doesn’t matter.

There you go, perhaps autocorrect is playing up for you too…..

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 20:27

1Week · 07/04/2023 20:23

I'm Irish and happy to denounce the atrocities committed by the IRA, they never acted in my name - even though I'm broadly in favour of a United Ireland.

See? It's very easy, communities have been doing forever.

Trans people should too.

Ffs, that's your right to denounce what you want

But it would be disgusting to claim that Irish people were collectively responsible unless they publicly denounced it

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 20:29

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Can you quote me, as I don't know what you're talking about.

Saucery · 07/04/2023 20:34

Trans Is Not A Fetish @Wonderingiforifnot . I’m saddened you think that is transphobia.

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 20:42

Obviously trans people do not want guys like this associated with them so they need to clarify the definition, or delineate the umbrella, more effectively so that confusion can't occur.

It isn't hard.
It isn't requiring them to accept the association of to apologise for him or in any way take any responsibility for his disgusting behaviour.
Just clarify their definitions.

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 20:42

As far as I can see, the problem is that mentioning this individual's identifying as trans makes some people uncomfortable about the public image of trans ideology being affected.

The relevant bit is that the general public are repeatedly told that no TQ+ identifying person is ever unsafe for women and children in their spaces. The facts are that all human populations contain those who behave badly. No group is exempt.

This is understandably inconvenient publicity, but there is no public duty to protect the image of any political movement. This isn't North Korea.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 20:47

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 20:42

Obviously trans people do not want guys like this associated with them so they need to clarify the definition, or delineate the umbrella, more effectively so that confusion can't occur.

It isn't hard.
It isn't requiring them to accept the association of to apologise for him or in any way take any responsibility for his disgusting behaviour.
Just clarify their definitions.

Trans people are not 'associated' with people who commit crimes like breaking& entering into nurseries. They don't need to take any steps as it is obvious to none transphobic people.

Mummytolittleones92 · 07/04/2023 20:48

I remember my mum telling me years ago that a man from her estate was caught stealing knickers off washing lines. He got a hiding for it and was known as the estate perv. Nowadays we’d have sympathise with his fetish and ‘be kind’. Well sod that. I’ll never be kind about this bollocks. Grayson Perry can get to fuck carrying on like that at a children’s cancer event. Vile. With any luck the papers will pick up this thread and resurrect that disgusting picture for the general public to see.

1Week · 07/04/2023 20:52

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 20:27

Ffs, that's your right to denounce what you want

But it would be disgusting to claim that Irish people were collectively responsible unless they publicly denounced it

I'm not saying they're responsible, that's obvious.

I'm saying that people may think they find such behavior acceptable , unless they open their mouths and say We Don't Find This Acceptable.

Communication. Good Faith. A willingness to rub along in society. A recognition that no one can mandate another's thoughts. Sympathy for another's suffering. That kind of thing.

No more than the work of 20 minutes by an employee in one of the publically funded trans organisations in a particular locality.

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 20:53

So this pervert...
Broke into a nursery and stole dirty nappies and asked to be treated as a baby girl.
You are happy for us to say that.

So why did he steal the nappies and ask to be treated as a baby?
He did this because... of his trans age and transsexual identity- to help him be a baby girl.

You don't want us to say that?

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:00

To keep associating trans people again with the actions of one person is transphobic.

Claiming it is 'understandably inconvenient publicity' for a minority because of the crime of one person it's attributing collective responsibility. Claiming he did this 'because of his transexual identity' is transphobic, nothing about being trans makes you predisposed to breaking and entering. Claiming people must find things acceptable unless they specifically denounce it because they share traits with an offender is bigoted.

But this is the point isn't it, smear and hope it sticks 🙄

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:02

No it fucking isn't the point!

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:03

This guy's fetish and his identity are inseparable. He wouldn't be attempting to steal dirty nappies if he didn't have that identity as baby Danielle.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 21:14

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:03

This guy's fetish and his identity are inseparable. He wouldn't be attempting to steal dirty nappies if he didn't have that identity as baby Danielle.

This is one guy. And he's been arrested for breaking and entering a nursery. Nothing about being trans makes you more inherently likely to do that. You can't extrapolate from one case. He broke the law because he didn't have a problem with breaking and entering, not because he of his 'trans sexual' identity. FFS, stop with the smearing.

DarkDayforMN · 07/04/2023 21:16

He broke the law because he didn't have a problem with breaking and entering, not because he of his 'trans sexual' identity.

He literally did it because of his female identity, according to the notes he left behind.

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:20

So why did he break and enter the nursery and steal the nappies and ask to be looked after and treated as baby Danielle?

Why did he do it? How can you claim it's nothing to do with role playing as baby Danielle when he actually said that himself?

Which bit are you managing to separate out? How? I simply do not understand what you think was going on, if you think this was nothing to do with his identity.

pickledandpuzzled · 07/04/2023 21:21

Men who do not fantasise about being baby Danielle do not break and enter nurseries.