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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

65 year old man breaks into daycare center.

171 replies

HolyShmoakes · 06/04/2023 14:46

Drinks baby formula, steals nappies and leaves a note and money asking of Staff will play along with his delusions and treat him as a little girl named 'Baby Danielle'

What makes me sick is that he went through the dirty nappy bin.

As a parent that would turn my stomach.

He did this TWICE.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/man-accused-entering-day-care-expressing-desire-be-baby-girl/A6ZD5ZRSS5GKBDPXZGNCZISQ3U/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook

Man accused of entering day care, expressing desire to be baby girl

Daniel Seeler allegedly left notes and cash at the day care center.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/man-accused-entering-day-care-expressing-desire-be-baby-girl/A6ZD5ZRSS5GKBDPXZGNCZISQ3U

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Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 13:32

Naunet · 07/04/2023 09:54

That fact that he’s trans…

This is transphobic.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 13:35

Flowerly · 07/04/2023 13:29

He falls under that great big lovely trans umbrella I am afraid. He claims to be a baby girl FFS.

It's not a newspaper article about someone that is trans, that wouldn't be newsworthy.
It is an article about someone who broke into a nursery which is illegal.

Whether the offender is trans or not isn't relevant. Unless you're implying bring trans means you're likely to break into nurseries?

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 14:00

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 13:32

This is transphobic.

How?

DarkDayforMN · 07/04/2023 15:41

Unless you're implying bring trans means you're likely to break into nurseries?

are you claiming this man’s motivation for breaking into nurseries was unrelated to his fetish for pretending to be a baby girl?

Flowerly · 07/04/2023 15:54

DarkDayforMN · 07/04/2023 15:41

Unless you're implying bring trans means you're likely to break into nurseries?

are you claiming this man’s motivation for breaking into nurseries was unrelated to his fetish for pretending to be a baby girl?

Apparently so! 🙄

Bathhy · 07/04/2023 16:08

Naunet · 07/04/2023 09:54

That fact that he’s trans…

Him being trans is not mentioned in the article at all, you have just invented the fact he's trans.

He just has a fetish

Which I can only assume means that you believe being trans is a fetish

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 16:21

A male identifies as a female.

How is that not part of the trans umbrella? Do we not take notice of identifying as a different gender if the person has other identities as well?

HolyShmoakes · 07/04/2023 18:06

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Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 18:35

DarkDayforMN · 07/04/2023 15:41

Unless you're implying bring trans means you're likely to break into nurseries?

are you claiming this man’s motivation for breaking into nurseries was unrelated to his fetish for pretending to be a baby girl?

Do you understand that being trans is different to having a fetish and breaking & entering? It's transphobic to equate them

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 18:43

It's transphobic to mention that someone identifying as a different gender is also performing a fetish and/or a criminal act?

Why?

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 07/04/2023 18:46

Because it means that they may not be ‘lovely’.

Saucery · 07/04/2023 19:05

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DarkDayforMN · 07/04/2023 19:11

Do you understand that being trans is different to having a fetish

Only sometimes. Fetishists (e.g. crossdressers and autogynephiles) are under the trans umbrella according to Stonewall.

This man appears to be an autopedophile. Many autopedophiles are also autogynephiles, which won't come as much surprise to anyone who's paid attention to the online trans community, their language and their behaviour. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/0956797616677082

There are also many examples of autopedophiles using "trans rights" to impose their fetish on others.

This was all mentioned earlier in the thread, page 1 IIRC It's very tedious how some people come on here and do this repetitive arguing in circles thing, but I suppose it keeps the thread at the top of the page, and might help people who are unfamiliar with the topic understand more about it.

Saucery · 07/04/2023 19:24

Oh come on, MNHQ.

You say Trans cannot be equated with having a fetish. That is literally what I said.

Trans Cannot Be Equated With Having A Fetish.
Thou Shalt Not Say Trans Is A Fetish.

Yes, I repeated what I said, because it is what your Guidelines say. You’re being ridiculous to delete that.

Saucery · 07/04/2023 19:25

Plus, the Stonewall definition! As I pointed out the other day when you deleted me for A STONEWALL DEFINITION.

Saucery · 07/04/2023 19:26

nilsmousehammer · 07/04/2023 18:43

It's transphobic to mention that someone identifying as a different gender is also performing a fetish and/or a criminal act?

Why?

It would appear so. Fucking ludicrous.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 19:37

No, it's fucking ludicrous to use this case to try and smear trans people and claim it implies "they may not be ‘lovely'" like there's some sort of collective responsibility.

It's transphobic. Own it instead of the fake outrage.

Saucery · 07/04/2023 19:41

Did I say “they may not be lovely”.?

No, I did not, so not sure why you’re attributing that to me @Wonderingiforifnot .

I did say we are not permitted to equate Trans with Fetish. A statement of fact. We are not allowed on here to say that. And…….that statement of MNHQ’s own rules was deleted. That’s ludicrous.

1Week · 07/04/2023 19:48

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Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2023 19:53

Bathhy · 07/04/2023 16:08

Him being trans is not mentioned in the article at all, you have just invented the fact he's trans.

He just has a fetish

Which I can only assume means that you believe being trans is a fetish

What part of HIM being called a baby Girl CALLED DANIELLE are you not understanding?

A man identifies as female therefore a trans person

Unfortunately that trans person not only identifies as the opposite sex but as a baby of the opposite sex.

So still transgender, but also identifying as a baby

And they are also an adult identifying as a baby who breaks into daycare centres and raids the contents of the bin.

You may not like it but this one is not a "cis" person!

KalimbaMoon · 07/04/2023 19:56

HolyShmoakes · 07/04/2023 13:21

I'm genuinely concerned for the children of the women on this thread who would have no problem with this man stealing their soiled nappies.

Absolutely no safe guarding instincts whatsoever.

Fully agree here - how on earth can any parent be ‘live and let live’ over a man getting his rocks off in this way? It’s your child, your innocent baby, how could you be okay with their soiled nappies being used for a pervert’s pleasure?

RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 07/04/2023 19:56

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 18:35

Do you understand that being trans is different to having a fetish and breaking & entering? It's transphobic to equate them

Obviously it would be deemed transphobic to automatically equate being trans to having a fetish.

But it would be equally obviously wrong to deny that someone who’s trans can be a fetishist.

This man identifies as a baby girl. Therefore he falls under the transgender bracket, as well as transage. And he clearly has a fetish.

The point is that while there is by no means an inevitable link, being trans and having a fetish are clearly not mutually exclusive, as some people sometimes seem to imply, apparently through “sacred caste” kind of thinking.

And it’s important to remember this when we’re looking at things from a safeguarding aspect. We are constantly told that it’s absolutely fine for some biologically male people to be in women and girl only spaces, because they’re different from other male people and don’t pose the same level of risk to female people.

The evidence would appear to show the contrary. Biologically male people are vastly more likely to have sexual fetishes - and commit sexual offences - than biologically female people, and whether they identify as trans or not is irrelevant to that. That’s one of the many reasons we insist on the importance of single sex spaces, regardless of a male person’s declared gender identity and are entirely justified in doing so.

I presume, Wonderingiforifnot, you’re not actually advocating for this individual to have access to changing rooms used by women and little girls? I think that would be a bridge too far for all but the most extremist TRA.

Wonderingiforifnot · 07/04/2023 19:58

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You are seriously saying trans people as a whole need to take responsibility for someone breaking into a nursery. You don't make the rules, because this isn't a rule for any group of people. And this is transphobic nonsense. As are a lot of the replies using this to smear trans people.

AlwaysGinPlease · 07/04/2023 20:00

I'd stick the nappy on his head right over his face. Deviant bastard.

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