[RNZ] Spike in online hate toward trans community after Posie Parker visit - researchers

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For those who aren’t familiar with the New Zealand media landscape, RNZ is the equivalent of the BBC. It’s a state funded public service broadcaster.

There is an interesting article on RNZ today about the real and measurable effects that ideologues like Posie Parker have on creating and intensifying hatred towards marginalised groups.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/487306/spike-in-online-hate-toward-trans-community-after-posie-parker-visit-researchers

I initially assumed that The Disinformation Project would be scientific, y’know, like the expert witnesses giving evidence re: social media in the Depp/Heard US case, who used specialist software to crunch numbers of tweets and the reach of each tweet?

But it looks like TDP just scroll through social media looking for stuff they don’t personally like, and then write word salady reports referring to other people’s personal opinions as ‘Information Disorders’ as if having a different opinion to the government is an illness?

It’s a bit batshit Big Brother-y, frankly.

Plus, as that Charlie bloke says, TDP pivot their narrative so many times they end up turning in circles.

Shaneel Lal, named in that article, was openly and joyously celebrating the actual literal (genuine real physical) violence against PP, and now they're claiming they're being sent online threats.

(I think they're also the same person who made fun of the horrific murder of Charlene Downes?)

Ah boo boo boo boo boo. Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo. WAAH WAAAH WAAH fucking waaaaah. I don't think I've been so terribly sorry for anyone since I read the sad tale of a transwoman who's not allowed to beat women in running races any more.

😭😭😭😭

What a fucking ridiculous post.

Given the source and low quality of the article I’m not sure about op’s claim on RNZ being equivalent to BBC

BBC has its gender ideology moments but it’s not this bad.

So a state funded media outlet pushing something so dire does seem up there with politicians excusing the violence

Analysts monitoring online extremism say it has hit new lows with one researcher describing it as "genocidal".

I stopped reading the article after this sentence. You cannot take them seriously after printing such a ridiculous comparison.

'Hate' = saying things like 'that was totally unacceptable', and 'stop using ridiculously over dramatic terms like 'genocide' for people saying that was appalling behaviour'.

Yeah yeah.

No! No! Lizzie, you really missed the clanger.

The person who made that statement is with an organisation called The Disinformation Project.

The person also used the current buzz words of neo-fascist and neo-nazi to describe people who disagree with the government, referred to as an anti-mandate group. Because that is what a person who is rational and seeks to only present the facts and the truth does….

Is "online hate" just people saying they disapprove of actual violence against women?

I was not in the "boycott NZ camp", although I abandoned plans to visit. This makes me think about boycotting NZ produce.

Did you see that in depth BBC report on the Kellie Jay Keen situation and on the violence that the women suffered as a result of...wanting to go and watch women say words?

No, me neither.

Good point. The posters who won't look at news sources they don't approve of can continue in their happy, deliberate ignorance.

"Online hate" = women saying "no" to men.

From page 2 when I said Who knew that New Zealanders are so politically immature that the arrival of one woman from the UK to the country has thrown it into turmoil.

It was a joke. And apologise if anyone thought I thought that. :)

If we took the way the term 'genocidal' is used by the most extreme trans activists and how it is defined by them, then the obvious conclusion would be that it is they who are being 'genocidal' towards women and girls as a sex class by demanding our words, spaces, and rights and by insisting that we cannot exist in public or in laws as the people we really are and define ourselves as.

That would be a stupid and exaggerated argument and so we don't use it. But it would be the mirror image of what is happening now.

Likewise, the online hate is used here as a mirror image. Those activists colonising the Women's Country are trying to define what citizens of that country are allowed to say or do and when there are uprisings they are called undeserved bigotry and hatred, even if the uprisings are not about hatred at all, but about trying to hold on to the old rights those citizens had.

Thanks to the posters who have found out more about the Disinformation Project. It was good work but how have standards of journalism slipped so far that RNZ publishes an article without doing some fact checking first? It's even worse given that we were told that RNZ receives public money.

I would say the reverse, when they (the TRAs) know full well they can get away with whatever they want -

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"They'll punch you in the face to show you how innocent they are".

More fake news about to be debunked.

FAKE NEWS

Police urge rainbow community to report threats, violence in wake of Posie Parker visit
10 April 2023
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/487640/police-urge-rainbow-community-to-report-threats-violence-in-wake-of-posie-parker-visit

DEBUNKING INCOMING

Sean Plunket
Update: The Platform has obtained what the police really said. We will have full coverage of how this “fake” news story was created by @rnz_news tomorrow from 7am.
https://twitter.com/SeanPlunket/status/1645306922055397377

I don't know what day and time that will be in UK 🤷‍♀️

The Platform NZ
https://theplatform.kiwi/

Hope it will be on YouTube too:
https://www.youtube.com/@theplatformnz/videos

Thanks!

Pleased to see Sean Plunket got his Twitter suspension sorted - just had a quick scroll through and it looks like he was only offline for 2 days?

Radio NZ has already deleted the tweet linking to the Fake News story - but not the story itself . . . yet.

Deleted tweet:
https://twitter.com/rnz_news/status/1645165223157047296

You can find it on https://archive.today/

Aww, shame its gone, I was looking forward to discovering how people's fracturing skulls and crushed windpipes were cruelly hurting the hands of the peaceful and loving people just wanting to get on with their day of bashing and strangling.

Sean & Ben expose the fake news of RNZ
The Platform NZ - 11 April 2023 - don't know exactly when this was broadcast, 7am but I can't work out if it was 10th, 11th or 12th April NZ time

Yes, It's Posie's fault... I'm sure there's no possible way at all that it could be the crazy things they scream at the top of their lungs that's turning people against their cause... 🙄

Is the purpose of the disinformation project to spread disinformation? It certainly looks like it.

Online hate:
No.
Men are not women.
LOL.
Male violence is male violence no matter what it wears.
Stop appropriating specious "intersex" identities.
I disagree with you.
That's a man.
He.
Him.

I am not surprised that there is a growth in online anti trans rhetoric

There are millions of people like me in the world who for a long time were in the be kind, live and let live camp. The increasing violence of the tra's is turning those like me ⁹firmly over to the side of letting women speak.

It is a spectacular own goal