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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Trans Day of Vengeance' protest continues as planned following Nashville shooting

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IwantToRetire · 30/03/2023 01:06

Critics are questioning a transgender activist group's upcoming "Trans Day of Vengeance" protest, which is expected to go on as planned despite coming just days after a trans person walked into a Tennessee Christian school and killed six people, including three children.

Despite pushback, including Twitter removing social media posts promoting the event, it appears the "Trans Day of Vengeance" event is still slated for Saturday morning in front of the Supreme Court in Washington, D.C.

The event is being organized by the Trans Radical Activist Network (TRAN), which informed The National Desk (TND) it would not comment beyond a press release shared by the organization on its website.

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/trans-day-of-vengeance-protest-continues-as-planned-following-nashville-shooting-trans-radical-activist-network-the-covenant-school

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Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 01:08
ray donovan omg GIF by Sky

Of course it does! Wouldn't expect anything else!

IcakethereforeIam · 30/03/2023 01:30

If I were a cynic, I'd be tempted to think whomever is organising this wants there to be trouble. Nothing like a martyr for furthering your cause.

I hope nobody is evil and stupid enough to rise to it.

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 01:35

After the ramping up of venom and rampage and God complex status nothing would surprise me at this point!

SpicyMoth · 30/03/2023 01:59

How are so many people actually going along with this ideology? That's what I can't get my head around, and that's a genuine question too.
I cannot grasp how people can't see how insane the trans politics is.
Nothing against genuinely trans people, but there's such an obvious difference between an individual vs this weird, woman hating political movement.

I'm nearly 27, and all of my once friends are either all super NPC about it, or so intensely pro-trans that you can't even suggest to them that it's for trans people's benefit that they're not sterilised when they're children so that if they want families when they're older, they have the option.
Rather than the choice being made for them when they're too young to understand.

It's baffling.

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 04:37

@SpicyMoth because it just isn't being reported on properly at all. And even the alternative sources of information- online forums (with honourable exceptions), reddit, Twitter etc were blocking out info till recently. That's starting to change now, slowly, due to a lot of effort put in by many different people. But the UK is further ahead than e.g. America or New Zealand.

But I was blissfully unaware of all this back in 2019 whilst other mumsneters had been clued in for years.

FOJN · 30/03/2023 05:19

IcakethereforeIam · 30/03/2023 01:30

If I were a cynic, I'd be tempted to think whomever is organising this wants there to be trouble. Nothing like a martyr for furthering your cause.

I hope nobody is evil and stupid enough to rise to it.

I share your cynicism.

Emotions will be running high after the school shootings. TRA's have been goading people online.

I hope people resist the temptation to react.

OutsideitsAmerica · 30/03/2023 07:47

Tomorrow signals the start of International Trans Visibility Week. This is certainly bringing visibility but I’m sure not the type many in the community were hoping for. I can’t believe this group will get much support - it seems such a counter-productive, vindictive and thoughtless protest. I wonder if there will be a candle-lit shrine with trans flags set up for the person who murdered the school children and teachers?

It’s so hypocritical that people are saying it’s unfair that the perpetrator’s ‘trans-ness’ is being mentioned. It would seem their anger at their treatment as a trans person was their primary motivation, so of course it’s being mentioned in the news reports. Just as someone else’s being an ‘incel’, or a white supremacist has been mentioned in the past.

The ready availability of guns means that anger can turn murderous in the blink of an eye.

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 07:58

It’s so depressing how people just accept claims that there is anything that can be termed a ‘trans genocide’. Why is it acceptable for TRAs to appropriate the term genocide?

It’s alarming. All the people throwing the term should probably be bloody grateful that they aren’t experiencing an actual genocide.

It is never ‘genocide’ if you are holding well publicised, state supported (through the provision of policing etc), large scale, flag waving protests. Even less so when politicians are promoting your cause.

Why do none of these people - so quick to jump on everyone else’s much more
innocuous language - stop and think about how offensive this is. There are real people who have survived genocide who’ve been through unimaginably terrible things.

IrisAtwood · 30/03/2023 08:15

Sickening. Truly sickening.

SquirrelSoShiny · 30/03/2023 08:15

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 07:58

It’s so depressing how people just accept claims that there is anything that can be termed a ‘trans genocide’. Why is it acceptable for TRAs to appropriate the term genocide?

It’s alarming. All the people throwing the term should probably be bloody grateful that they aren’t experiencing an actual genocide.

It is never ‘genocide’ if you are holding well publicised, state supported (through the provision of policing etc), large scale, flag waving protests. Even less so when politicians are promoting your cause.

Why do none of these people - so quick to jump on everyone else’s much more
innocuous language - stop and think about how offensive this is. There are real people who have survived genocide who’ve been through unimaginably terrible things.

I think overall the autism link answers many, many questions about the lack of self awareness that some TRAs have. I would actually feel for them if their aggression didn't drive people away. I have no doubt the world has been unkind to many autistic men and women, especially without assessment and diagnosis.

risefromyourgrave · 30/03/2023 08:17

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 07:58

It’s so depressing how people just accept claims that there is anything that can be termed a ‘trans genocide’. Why is it acceptable for TRAs to appropriate the term genocide?

It’s alarming. All the people throwing the term should probably be bloody grateful that they aren’t experiencing an actual genocide.

It is never ‘genocide’ if you are holding well publicised, state supported (through the provision of policing etc), large scale, flag waving protests. Even less so when politicians are promoting your cause.

Why do none of these people - so quick to jump on everyone else’s much more
innocuous language - stop and think about how offensive this is. There are real people who have survived genocide who’ve been through unimaginably terrible things.

I think it’s down to a severe lack of empathy, they are unable to think of anyone but themselves.

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 08:30

risefromyourgrave · 30/03/2023 08:17

I think it’s down to a severe lack of empathy, they are unable to think of anyone but themselves.

But why are all the fawning sycophants in politics and the media not challenging this stuff?

The guardian (for example) would be quick to jump all over racist micro aggressions for example. But not only do they fail to challenge this appropriation of genocide, they actually repeat and amplify it.

PriOn1 · 30/03/2023 08:42

Trans day of vengeance?

I know transactivism gets a pass for all kinds of questionable behaviour, but nobody sane will see the word vengeance and think it justified. They just won’t. Visibility, pride, remembrance… these are all either peaceful or positive (or both).

Their protests against women have neither been peaceful, nor positive in recent months, but to actually say the quiet part out loud suggests to me that they are genuinely losing the plot badly and have moved far beyond the realms of what any sane person would see as justifiable.

I hope they go ahead with this and that it is given as much publicity as the press can give. Vengeance is not a good look.

AlisonDonut · 30/03/2023 08:51

One day this will all be over. We just have to hold the line. We know we aren't the violent ones.

Florissante · 30/03/2023 08:51

I know about this because - those with sensitive dispositions look away now lest ye be vexed - I read about it in The Daily Mail.

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 09:46

PriOn1 · 30/03/2023 08:42

Trans day of vengeance?

I know transactivism gets a pass for all kinds of questionable behaviour, but nobody sane will see the word vengeance and think it justified. They just won’t. Visibility, pride, remembrance… these are all either peaceful or positive (or both).

Their protests against women have neither been peaceful, nor positive in recent months, but to actually say the quiet part out loud suggests to me that they are genuinely losing the plot badly and have moved far beyond the realms of what any sane person would see as justifiable.

I hope they go ahead with this and that it is given as much publicity as the press can give. Vengeance is not a good look.

We are planning a counter protest:

Terfs Day of Tea cakes.

It's not going to be as aggressive, unless someone accidentally brings rock cakes instead of tea cakes

DialSquare · 30/03/2023 09:49

Terfs Day of Tea cakes.

It would appear that I have been counter protesting daily without realising!

MythicalReasonableTwitterUser · 30/03/2023 10:00

I'm nervous about the planned event at the Supreme Court.
As an American, I know how enamored many far right Christian men are with "righteous" violence, and they are really upset with the recent attack on Christian children.

I've been trawling Twitter, and some of them are itching for a fight. I'm not sure if someone already mentioned, but Twitter reportedly removed thousands of tweets showing a poster for the event. I suspect it wasn't because they were worried about Trantifa, but about the Proud Boy types who will probably show up in fair numbers.

Although I imagine the Trans Avengers will have a decent amount of police protection.

So typical that TRAs blame women for the backlash against transgenderism, while the far right blames women for transgenderism.

WickedSerious · 30/03/2023 10:06

DialSquare · 30/03/2023 09:49

Terfs Day of Tea cakes.

It would appear that I have been counter protesting daily without realising!

Your dedication to the cause is much appreciated.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/03/2023 10:06

I'm not sure if someone already mentioned, but Twitter reportedly removed thousands of tweets showing a poster for the event.

I mentioned the attempt to memory hole it on one of the other Nashville threads.

Myalternate · 30/03/2023 10:08

APRIL FOOLS DAY…how apt.

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 10:18

So far in 2023, 12 lives have been lost, 2022 we lost over 60 people

Note that the TRA press release doesn’t specify what the causes of death there are.

It’s completely disingenuous to claim high suicide rates or murders of sex workers or drug-related deaths are some kind of ‘genocide’. Or even that they are caused by ‘transphobia’ in any direct or straightforward way.

DialSquare · 30/03/2023 10:20

Your dedication to the cause is much appreciated.

Thanks. It's very hard but worth the sacrifice.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 30/03/2023 10:21

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 08:30

But why are all the fawning sycophants in politics and the media not challenging this stuff?

The guardian (for example) would be quick to jump all over racist micro aggressions for example. But not only do they fail to challenge this appropriation of genocide, they actually repeat and amplify it.

It's because the media sorting hat has categorised trans rights as'progressive', which has turned it into a cause that you are forced to support if you consider yourself progressive. This is even more true in the US than here.

Just imagine if Suella Braverman or Marjorie Taylor Greene (both of whom I despise, incidentally) had come up with a scheme to give gender non-conforming kids drugs and surgery to try to turn them into the opposite sex. Would the Guardian be backing it then?

WickedSerious · 30/03/2023 10:22

What is it that the silly buggers think they're avenging?