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'Trans Day of Vengeance' protest continues as planned following Nashville shooting

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IwantToRetire · 30/03/2023 01:06

Critics are questioning a transgender activist group's upcoming "Trans Day of Vengeance" protest, which is expected to go on as planned despite coming just days after a trans person walked into a Tennessee Christian school and killed six people, including three children.

Despite pushback, including Twitter removing social media posts promoting the event, it appears the "Trans Day of Vengeance" event is still slated for Saturday morning in front of the Supreme Court in Washington, D.C.

The event is being organized by the Trans Radical Activist Network (TRAN), which informed The National Desk (TND) it would not comment beyond a press release shared by the organization on its website.

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/trans-day-of-vengeance-protest-continues-as-planned-following-nashville-shooting-trans-radical-activist-network-the-covenant-school

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MoltenLasagne · 30/03/2023 14:47

Honestly, I think twitter had the right idea by trying to take down these posts. Preventing the promotion of these truly insane protests is the only logical thing to do. Have you seen the photos of TW posing with assault rifles? This has the potential to be a complete tinderbox.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/03/2023 14:48

2,000+ people made a lot of noise and someone threw soup on KJK. I wouldn't describe this as "terrorism".

Have you actually seen any of the videos or listened to other women who were there? It was a frenzied mob.

Thelnebriati · 30/03/2023 14:49

Orwell missed a Newspeak trick there. "Vengeance" as a synonym for initiating conflict for your own amusement.

Anyone that has to to be told that a gun club and firearms training is bad optics around this issue is a bad faith actor.
Just imagine the potential for trouble if our lot tried a stunt like this.

Florissante · 30/03/2023 14:49

Brefugee · 30/03/2023 14:46

oh i completely agree, but when I am in fully exasperated-rage-mode i just want some big bloke with a bigger beard to smash one of those smug fuckers right in the face.

Which is pretty much considering my usual stance on violence!

That's what I want in theory but not in practice.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/03/2023 14:50

I think they should be challenged to state what "vengeance" they are intending. Are they just going to post some memes? Some clarity would be good.

Brefugee · 30/03/2023 14:51

That's what I want in theory but not in practice.

in practice what i would like to see is 10 times the number of the TRAs, maybe with a candle, standing there in silent contemplation. With a very mixed demographic. And i really hope this is what happens.

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 14:52

@Brefugee i do wonder if a load of far right Christian men jumped in and pounded a few sparkly-bedressed blue-haired beardy-types in lipstic - it might provoke some reaction that may drive things in a different direction
For reasons I don't understand it would be JK Rowling's fault AND justify (more) full scale violent attacks on women. And every time a "Terf got stomped" papers like the guardian would deflect with discussion of the terrible time a man in a completely different country beat up some TRAs. And lots of "bad people on both sides" rhetoric. It would be the worst possible thing basically.
Like how the presence of Nazi's in Australia justified attacks on women in New Zealand. But even more so.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/03/2023 14:53

It would absolutely be blamed on women and then it would be open season on us, but probably not violent right wing men so much.

FourTeaFallOut · 30/03/2023 14:55

ter·ror·ism
[ˈtɛrərɪzəm]
NOUN
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

I 'm failing to see how mobbing and punching women so they cannot speak in order to strongarm harmful progressive bollocks across the political spectrum doesn't meet the definition?

Binglebong · 30/03/2023 14:58

Thank you.

Brefugee · 30/03/2023 14:58

agree @namitynamechange and @Ereshkigalangcleg - which is why i really really hope it doesn't happen. But it will peak a load more people, i think

Thelnebriati · 30/03/2023 15:01

domestic terrorism
noun;
terrorism practiced in your own country against your own people

namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 15:04

Yeah I know! I do really feel for the New Zealand organisers though. It seems like there was some uncertainty beforehand about whether or not to ask men to come and help defend/form a barrier. The problem is if you don't, then women are left to get hurt (which happened). If you do its really easy either for someone to get carried away or for some agent provocateur shit to happen (I don't think that's paranoid, it is common because its the easiest way to undermine protests/events if you don't want it to happen). And then there would be chaos and women blamed. Which is why the police should have done their job.

AlisonDonut · 30/03/2023 15:06

MerlinsLostMarbles · 30/03/2023 13:57

I've seen KJK herself and several gender critical people describe what happened in NZ as "terrorism".

2,000+ people made a lot of noise and someone threw soup on KJK. I wouldn't describe this as "terrorism".

2000+ people against 1...who just wanted to say words?

Are you quite alright?

yourhairiswinterfire · 30/03/2023 15:35

2,000+ people made a lot of noise and someone threw soup on KJK. I wouldn't describe this as "terrorism".

Love how you keep skirting around the 72 year old woman who was headbutted and then repeatedly punched in the face resulting in a broken skull by the 'right side of history' thugs.

It was more than just 'noise'. They looked like a horde of brain-dead zombies all desperately pushing and clawing to get to one 5ft woman to tear her limb from limb.

Then there's the general behaviour of these anti-woman activists that we're all used to by now. Punching and spitting on women, the Uni student posing with his guns threatening to use women as target practice, politicians beaming in front on 'decapitate women' signs, the rape and death threats, sending bomb threats, the ''joking'' about throwing acid on women instead of soup, threatening to mow women attending these events down with a car, the doxxing, the turning up at women's homes, threatening women's children, and on and on and on.

Terrorism is exactly what it is.

Myalternate · 30/03/2023 16:14

How else would someone describe a frenzied screeching baying mob swarming towards a peaceful group fully intending to terrorise them?
It looked like a piranha feeding frenzy.

AlisonDonut · 30/03/2023 16:16

Myalternate · 30/03/2023 16:14

How else would someone describe a frenzied screeching baying mob swarming towards a peaceful group fully intending to terrorise them?
It looked like a piranha feeding frenzy.

I hate to coin a phrase but 'trans joy'?

Florissante · 30/03/2023 16:20

Myalternate · 30/03/2023 16:14

How else would someone describe a frenzied screeching baying mob swarming towards a peaceful group fully intending to terrorise them?
It looked like a piranha feeding frenzy.

There's already a term: TRA.

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 16:21

Florissante · 30/03/2023 16:20

There's already a term: TRA.

I don't like this term. The R stands for rights but none of the things they are demanding are actually rights.

nilsmousehammer · 30/03/2023 16:28

It is a phenomenally stupid piece of PR, but then the movement is imploding.

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 16:31

MerlinsLostMarbles · 30/03/2023 13:57

I've seen KJK herself and several gender critical people describe what happened in NZ as "terrorism".

2,000+ people made a lot of noise and someone threw soup on KJK. I wouldn't describe this as "terrorism".

Not quite the same thing. Terrorism is
the use of violence or threat of it in pursuit of political aims.

A coordinated attack to physically intimate and throw liquid on someone is use of violence to stop them from saying things you don’t want them to be allowed to say (or others to hear) is toward the everyday end of terrorist activity. It’s intended to achieve a political aim and the violence is meant to scare others who might oppose you.

It might be a bit hyperbolic to shout terrorism - but it’s not wildly inaccurate.

Geonocide, however, is completely inaccurate to describe any of it. There is precisely no evidence that people are trying to eradicate trans people as a group by killing lots of trans people. Not agreeing with activist demands for enhanced rights and saying things that don’t match the ideology are not genocide.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 16:41

There was some sort of Trans protest in Kentucky yesterday. Activists stormed the state capitol building.

The jokes are pretty funny.

LGBTQanon made me cackle.

https://twitter.com/mattstonephotog/status/1641127754820206602

19 arrested tho: https://amp.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article273746375.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/29/kentucky-anti-transgender-law-override-vote/

MorningPlatypus · 30/03/2023 16:42

Bold strategy.

'Trans Day of Vengeance' protest continues as planned following Nashville shooting
Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 16:46

yourhairiswinterfire · 30/03/2023 15:35

2,000+ people made a lot of noise and someone threw soup on KJK. I wouldn't describe this as "terrorism".

Love how you keep skirting around the 72 year old woman who was headbutted and then repeatedly punched in the face resulting in a broken skull by the 'right side of history' thugs.

It was more than just 'noise'. They looked like a horde of brain-dead zombies all desperately pushing and clawing to get to one 5ft woman to tear her limb from limb.

Then there's the general behaviour of these anti-woman activists that we're all used to by now. Punching and spitting on women, the Uni student posing with his guns threatening to use women as target practice, politicians beaming in front on 'decapitate women' signs, the rape and death threats, sending bomb threats, the ''joking'' about throwing acid on women instead of soup, threatening to mow women attending these events down with a car, the doxxing, the turning up at women's homes, threatening women's children, and on and on and on.

Terrorism is exactly what it is.

It's so depressing when they get listed all on one post.

But it really shows up the posters who select little bits of information in order to minimise for what they actually are!

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 16:49

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 16:21

I don't like this term. The R stands for rights but none of the things they are demanding are actually rights.

It's alright it now stand for:

Trans Rioting Arseholes