'Trans Day of Vengeance' protest continues as planned following Nashville shooting

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Critics are questioning a transgender activist group's upcoming "Trans Day of Vengeance" protest, which is expected to go on as planned despite coming just days after a trans person walked into a Tennessee Christian school and killed six people, including three children.

Despite pushback, including Twitter removing social media posts promoting the event, it appears the "Trans Day of Vengeance" event is still slated for Saturday morning in front of the Supreme Court in Washington, D.C.

The event is being organized by the Trans Radical Activist Network (TRAN), which informed The National Desk (TND) it would not comment beyond a press release shared by the organization on its website.

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/trans-day-of-vengeance-protest-continues-as-planned-following-nashville-shooting-trans-radical-activist-network-the-covenant-school

I‘m not sure that the activists who are at the forefront of this stuff are able to read the tone of anything.

They jump straight to claiming the position of victim, however incoherent that is.

And remember that this is the public stuff. Imagine what they were actually saying and suggesting before deciding to publicly go with ‘day of vengeance’. Terrifying.

Thanks for the response SpicyMoth.

Like Florissante I prefer to stick to sex based definitions (what are the rules around here, I thought we weren't allowed to call named transwomen 'he'?).

It's possible to communicate with trans people without having to pretend they're a different sex and without mentioning that point even once let alone over and over. Anyway since most of them don't have dysphoria they should be robust enough to accept not everyone will play along.

I thought I saw a thread earlier but now can't find it, saying that this event has been cancelled on the grounds of the organisers feeling that calling for a day of vengeance and violence might lead to someone getting hurt.

Later today they will be announcing that water is wet.

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Thank you.

I fully see what you mean!
I have diagnosed Borderline Personality Disorder and so just as one example I cry literally every day. I cannot remember a day where I didn't cry at least once - but I'm written off a lot as just dramatic or oversensitive or hormonal etc and it's very draining having to explain to people unfamiliar with it, because no one really truly understands what it's like to go through such intense emotional dysregulation. They think you can "Just calm down" or "Just stop crying".
Jobs have been especially difficult over the years.

Except that they have of course missed the point. They have failed to recognise that by holding a day of vengeance they are the aggressors and they’re encouraging protestors to hurt people.

Yes, of course it would have. But the 'be kind' demands all go only in one direction when it comes to this issue.

I have begun to look for empathy in the messages from the online trans activists towards anyone outside their group and have yet to see it. Indeed, the absence of empathy directed at suffering outsiders (of any type, say, women and girls in Afghanistan or victims of a natural disaster) is glaringly obvious once you spot it in that movement.

And I find this troubling, as I'm not sure how to communicate about compromises, for instance, with a group which doesn't seem to see anyone else as ever suffering at all.

Well it was fairly obvious that the only risk to life and limb cared about was TQ+ political supporters. The double standards a la abusive personalities is always front and centre.

But it is a relief that they may have realised to risk inciting a mob where many members are likely to be vulnerable and unstable, who may be carrying and waving guns if the tweets are anything to go by, is a really bloody stupid idea in a country where the police carry guns and are trained to shoot first if they perceive a risk. Yes that would be a very major risk to the type of humans this mob claim to have the capacity to care about.

Yes, that ^^

I have looked too. And never yet seen it.

It seems a very alarming inability to see anyone outside of the group as fully and equally human.

And the binding characteristic of the group is adherence to the political belief system, not to be TQ+. Many are not themselves TQ+ and I have seen the treatment turned on a T person who dares to voice experiences or thoughts incompatible with the belief system: it's even worse than how they treat women. It's the same treatment meted out to any believer of theirs who dares to question, or who accidentally gets something wrong.

And now this political group is becoming actively violent in pursuit of its politics against others interests and equalities.

It seems a very alarming inability to see anyone outside of the group as fully and equally human.

And the binding characteristic of the group is adherence to the political belief system, not to be TQ+. Many are not themselves TQ+ and I have seen the treatment turned on a T person who dares to voice experiences or thoughts incompatible with the belief system: it's even worse than how they treat women. It's the same treatment meted out to any believer of theirs who dares to question, or who accidentally gets something wrong.

Exactly this.

This is nowhere more starkly illustrated than through the old-school transsexuals who, from an early stage, were acutely aware of the damage this vociferous ideology posed to them as well as women. Those who spoke openly about it were vilified as 'Truscum'. And as for the attempt by a non-TQ member of Mermaids to sue Miranda Yardley, an actual trans 'woman' (who recognises he's male) for supposed 'transphobia', well, you really couldn't make it up. Except she apparently did.

An actual woman, suing a transsexual for transphobia. Give me strength.

As for the treatment they mete out to detransitioners, it's nothing short of tragic.

There are a number of trans people known to me who are increasingly appalled by the turn this has taken, and concerns that violent trans-activism makes their lives more, not less, uncomfortable if not downright dangerous. I know equal numbers (I work in academia so encounter this frequently) who are completely in thrall to GI.

I have to wonder how much more it will take for people to realize that this aggressive movement really doesn't care about trans people. A not inconsiderably proportion of these adherents have an entirely different agenda. They must have. Otherwise, why make a beeline for rape crisis centres and insinuating male criminals into prison estates full of vulnerable women?

This is a wholesale endeavour to normalise criminal sexual behaviour. That it's seriously hurting women there is no doubt of, but it's also causing incredible harm to the people who's interests it professes to accept. What it will take for the scales to fall from their eyes is another question.

Sorry for the numerous grammatical errors on the above post. Typed on my small phone screen and my reading eyesight isn't great. 'Accept' should read 'protect!'

I have to wonder how much more it will take for people to realize that this aggressive movement really doesn't care about trans people. A not inconsiderably proportion of these adherents have an entirely different agenda. They must have. Otherwise, why make a beeline for rape crisis centres and insinuating male criminals into prison estates full of vulnerable women?

Have a look at this article by Janice Turner.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/db651234-9e7c-11ed-8201-2ed91f44d1e8?shareToken=e3a3d3c94293870aef57e7fab0fc626b
I’ve copied & pasted the most relevant paragraph.

‘Indeed, trans activists strategically targeted prison policy. James Morton, head of the Scottish Trans Alliance, formulated the Scottish Prison Service’s rules. By enabling the service “to include trans women as women on a self-declaration basis within very challenging circumstances”, he wrote, “we would be able to ensure all other public services do likewise”. In other words, if horrible things happen to female prisoners, no one will find out (or even care), so we can “prove” to the NHS or schools that self-ID is risk-free.’

So accurate 😁

‘Indeed, trans activists strategically targeted prison policy. James Morton, head of the Scottish Trans Alliance, formulated the Scottish Prison Service’s rules. By enabling the service “to include trans women as women on a self-declaration basis within very challenging circumstances”, he wrote, “we would be able to ensure all other public services do likewise”. In other words, if horrible things happen to female prisoners, no one will find out (or even care), so we can “prove” to the NHS or schools that self-ID is risk-free.’

I have never really been able to work out whether Morton really thought that female prisoners were disposable and nobody would care, or whether it was genuine naivety, and the belief was that these men would be honourable and wouldn’t react like other imprisoned men, if allowed access to women.

Because if it was really the former, and Morton knew these men would behave exactly as any rational person would expect, then all that was created was a ticking time bomb.

One has to assume that Morton wanted to achieve permanent privileges for people claiming a trans identity. I realise the ticking time bomb is very slow to go off, precisely because it was largely under most people’s radar. Was the thinking that, by the time it did go off, that the other privileges would be in place and thus slow and difficult to remove?

Or does Morton revere men who claim they are women so much that there really was a naive faith that it would all be fine?

That’s a really interesting question because I always just assumed it was the first one, an act of extraordinary cold-bloodedness.

But if it was down to well-meaning naivety, Morton showed no sign of recanting when it became clear that there were problems.

They're just anarchists in too small clothes.

And less anarchists with any actual political knowledge, belief or purpose in the anarchy movement than just bellends liking the feelz and image while breaking stuff.

They identify as anarchists.

Vengeance for what? I am struggling to think of anything.

Those very words are violence.

Kinda handy for the wish-to-be-permanently-victimised cult.

They have access to women's prisons, women's toilets, changing rooms, women's rights... What exactly are they avenging?

That despite all of that, they're still deeply unhappy people.

Imagine the uproar if we decided to have a Woman's day of Vengence to get back our spaces, toilets, changing rooms & human rights.
There would be a counter rally organisated within seconds to put us TERFs back in our box!

TRAs gearing up to go into battle with labour canvessor.. 1st rule of battle never give away your game plan... Howling at the first comment.. Pretend to be GC.. Then go for the jugular 🤣🤣