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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Trans Day of Vengeance' protest continues as planned following Nashville shooting

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IwantToRetire · 30/03/2023 01:06

Critics are questioning a transgender activist group's upcoming "Trans Day of Vengeance" protest, which is expected to go on as planned despite coming just days after a trans person walked into a Tennessee Christian school and killed six people, including three children.

Despite pushback, including Twitter removing social media posts promoting the event, it appears the "Trans Day of Vengeance" event is still slated for Saturday morning in front of the Supreme Court in Washington, D.C.

The event is being organized by the Trans Radical Activist Network (TRAN), which informed The National Desk (TND) it would not comment beyond a press release shared by the organization on its website.

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/trans-day-of-vengeance-protest-continues-as-planned-following-nashville-shooting-trans-radical-activist-network-the-covenant-school

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Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 21:37

JanesLittleGirl · 30/03/2023 21:36

Does that mean that I should have paid a licencing fee?

More importantly can you return them if your didn't?

JanesLittleGirl · 30/03/2023 21:55

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 21:37

More importantly can you return them if your didn't?

I only have one but I don't think they'll take her back 'cos she isn't a toddler any more.

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 21:56

JanesLittleGirl · 30/03/2023 21:55

I only have one but I don't think they'll take her back 'cos she isn't a toddler any more.

Tell them that whilst you bought her 23 years ago she identifies as a two year old. And your bus ticket identifies as your original receipt!

JanesLittleGirl · 30/03/2023 21:58

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 21:56

Tell them that whilst you bought her 23 years ago she identifies as a two year old. And your bus ticket identifies as your original receipt!

I could try that but to be honest she identifies as a proper little madam

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 22:02

JanesLittleGirl · 30/03/2023 21:58

I could try that but to be honest she identifies as a proper little madam

Oh! Yeah! Sorry you're stuck with that one! No returns on that model I'm afraid.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 30/03/2023 22:12
Eyes Glasses GIF

Bah.

I don’t know if I should blame that one on my phone or my lack of reading spectacles.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/03/2023 22:23

@TheBiologyStupid I think so. I've got a picture of him.

GrinWine

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 30/03/2023 22:26

Is this movement a Masonic movement?

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 30/03/2023 22:28

Sorry, you can only patent something that is "novel, useful and non-obvious". Toddlers are slaying non-obvious, but...useful?

JanesLittleGirl · 30/03/2023 22:34

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 30/03/2023 22:28

Sorry, you can only patent something that is "novel, useful and non-obvious". Toddlers are slaying non-obvious, but...useful?

Damn right they're useful. DH walks in the door. You shove toddler in his arms and say "you look after the rug rat, I'm going out for a drink".

postop · 30/03/2023 23:40

I think that as a group they have poor literacy skills, particularly around anything to do with history. I wonder if there is a lack of understanding of the meaning of the word "vengeance".
I am sure there is a proven link between limited vocabulary, poor communication skills and violence.

MissPollysFitDolly · 31/03/2023 00:28

SpicyMoth · 30/03/2023 18:10

I truly hope so @CryptoFascistMadameCholet !
As much as I don't necessarily personally agree with everything KJK says - I wouldn't call Blaire White a man for example - I'm just so so grateful she's making headway and she has my eternal support, and future votes no regardless. <3

If you don't mind me asking @SpicyMoth, why wouldn't you call Blaire White a man, they are an adult male. Do you mean to their face or do you think some TW are women?

VitaminX · 31/03/2023 00:46

I think that as a group they have poor literacy skills, particularly around anything to do with history.
Now is that toddlers or TRAs?

TheBiologyStupid · 31/03/2023 01:20

Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord.

Sayeth the Lord who identifies as a LADY, you bigot!

Steradent · 31/03/2023 01:38

TheBiologyStupid · 31/03/2023 01:20

Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord.

Sayeth the Lord who identifies as a LADY, you bigot!

They want to be worshipped as if they are the Lord.

Half of the population has a below average IQ, they are no more violent than the surgeons who are surgically mutilating children abroad and young people in the NHS at our expense, who will never be prosecuted.

SpicyMoth · 31/03/2023 03:04

MissPollysFitDolly · 31/03/2023 00:28

If you don't mind me asking @SpicyMoth, why wouldn't you call Blaire White a man, they are an adult male. Do you mean to their face or do you think some TW are women?

I don't mind at all @MissPollysFitDolly !

I guess the best way I can describe it is by equating it to disability. It's not a perfect one to one by any means but I hope it makes sense!

I wouldn't call Blaire White a man in the same sense that generally you wouldn't say to someone who is disabled, that they're disabled over and over.
Disabled people tend to be well aware that they're disabled - You don't have to be reminded all the time unless you're completely delusional. If someone mentioned the fact you had a glass eye every other sentence (In that same way that pronouns get used every other sentence)- I can see how that could have an effect on someone and their mental health over time.

((Unless of course disability is specifically brought up in conversation, ie, "Is x really that noticeable?", "Do you think there will be disabled access?" "are you managing daily life okay", medical things etc.
When disability is talked about, it's not constant or all the time.))

However, alongside that unwritten rule of not mentioning someone's disability every other sentence, there's no expectation of pretending to be an able bodied person. There's no forcing people to believe you can walk in the same way as everyone else even though you clearly can't without aid.
There's no getting people fired because they didn't affirm that you think can run just as fast with one leg, as they can with two.

In that same way, Blaire White has never pretended not to be biologically male.
She doesn't hide, or shy away from that fact. She's rooted firmly in biological reality and I have all the time in the day for that.

SinnerBoy · 31/03/2023 05:59

I'm glad I'm not the only one pondering "Vengeance against whom? For what?"

It has the ring of, "Give in to our demands, or we'll start shooting."

EmpressaurusOfCats · 31/03/2023 06:40

In that same way, Blaire White has never pretended not to be biologically male.
She doesn't hide, or shy away from that fact. She's rooted firmly in biological reality and I have all the time in the day for that.

Does that include never using women’s toilets etc, do you know?

Florissante · 31/03/2023 06:50

MissPollysFitDolly · 31/03/2023 00:28

If you don't mind me asking @SpicyMoth, why wouldn't you call Blaire White a man, they are an adult male. Do you mean to their face or do you think some TW are women?

I agree but have a slightly different take: Blaire White is male and therefore a "he".

White has never made a secret of the fact that he is an intact male and has spoken of his desire to father children.

Steradent · 31/03/2023 07:02

SpicyMoth · 31/03/2023 03:04

I don't mind at all @MissPollysFitDolly !

I guess the best way I can describe it is by equating it to disability. It's not a perfect one to one by any means but I hope it makes sense!

I wouldn't call Blaire White a man in the same sense that generally you wouldn't say to someone who is disabled, that they're disabled over and over.
Disabled people tend to be well aware that they're disabled - You don't have to be reminded all the time unless you're completely delusional. If someone mentioned the fact you had a glass eye every other sentence (In that same way that pronouns get used every other sentence)- I can see how that could have an effect on someone and their mental health over time.

((Unless of course disability is specifically brought up in conversation, ie, "Is x really that noticeable?", "Do you think there will be disabled access?" "are you managing daily life okay", medical things etc.
When disability is talked about, it's not constant or all the time.))

However, alongside that unwritten rule of not mentioning someone's disability every other sentence, there's no expectation of pretending to be an able bodied person. There's no forcing people to believe you can walk in the same way as everyone else even though you clearly can't without aid.
There's no getting people fired because they didn't affirm that you think can run just as fast with one leg, as they can with two.

In that same way, Blaire White has never pretended not to be biologically male.
She doesn't hide, or shy away from that fact. She's rooted firmly in biological reality and I have all the time in the day for that.

Obvious disability is a really good explanation, just as an aside. Telling someone who is genuinely ill that they aren't is damaging as telling someone they are the opposite sex when they are not.

I would suggest that having an Invisible disability is the polar opposite of Trans yet both suffer. Trans suffers from misplaced kindness that isn't deserved for what is rooted in a basically cruel, selfish, lying and narcissistic behaviour. The person with an invisible disability suffers the behaviour that a narcissistic person puts out into the world, cruelty, lied, no help or kindness. They each get the opposite of what they deserve given to them by others.

The gaslighting that happens to someone with an Invisible illness is really damaging to them.

To be then gaslighted by someone inventing something on top of being gaslighted that you aren't ill when you are, is infuriating to the Invisible disabled, who get the least sympathy going, not that they request it, it's just a tough life.

If someone is low energy from say Hashimotos, you can see that they are low energy, some may confused it with laziness, some with hasimotos may happen to be lazy. Someone else can't tell without blood tests and ability to read the blood tests.

This is why I think those with Invisible conditions fall for trans, as they wonder if there are some tests that haven't been invented yet to explain what's going on. I noted that they are abusing really vulnerable people and those are the groups they infiltrated first. They stole empathy that should have gone to sick people and stole empathy from sick people who have so few resources and I am sure not everyone claiming these illness in these 'communities' has them, which makes those with Invisible conditions look like charlatans and those who are sick not access the services and support they could because it's been colonised by fakes.

SquidwardBound · 31/03/2023 07:34

It never ceases to amaze me how good TRAs at claiming victimhood.

They organise a ‘day of vengeance’ (definition: punishment inflicted or retribution exacted for an injury or wrong) and then complain that they had to cancel it because there was a ‘credible threat’ to the people seeking vengeance.

All centred around an incident where one trans person wrote a manifesto and then murdered children and school staff.

At what point do these TRAs sit down and think, ‘maybe we are handling this wrong’? This strategy seems to be making things much worse.

WickedSerious · 31/03/2023 07:37

EmpressaurusOfCats · 31/03/2023 06:40

In that same way, Blaire White has never pretended not to be biologically male.
She doesn't hide, or shy away from that fact. She's rooted firmly in biological reality and I have all the time in the day for that.

Does that include never using women’s toilets etc, do you know?

Hasn't he said he gets a kick out of using women's toilets?

SerafinasGoose · 31/03/2023 07:57

I have never come across 'day of vengeance' language form any other social justice movement. There's something disordered in the thinking of those activists who are doing this.

'Day of retribution' is straight out of the 'manifesto' of the incel Elliott Rodger, as written before he murdered six people and injured fourteen others as revenge on the world for leaving him a virgin.

Other men were targets because in his eyes, they were all having sex except him. But the main focus of his anger and hatred was women because they dared to reject him. And now this murderous loser has become a cult hero, with at least two copycat killings (citing him) that I know of.

In this context, a 'Trans Day of Vengeance' made up of mostly raging, misogynistic MRAs is pretty revealing. They were well advised to cancel.

postop · 31/03/2023 08:02

Wouldn't it have been less tone deaf if they had just said something along the lines that it would be sensitive to consider the bereaved families and therefore appropriate to cancel their "day of vengeance"?