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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Trans Day of Vengeance' protest continues as planned following Nashville shooting

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IwantToRetire · 30/03/2023 01:06

Critics are questioning a transgender activist group's upcoming "Trans Day of Vengeance" protest, which is expected to go on as planned despite coming just days after a trans person walked into a Tennessee Christian school and killed six people, including three children.

Despite pushback, including Twitter removing social media posts promoting the event, it appears the "Trans Day of Vengeance" event is still slated for Saturday morning in front of the Supreme Court in Washington, D.C.

The event is being organized by the Trans Radical Activist Network (TRAN), which informed The National Desk (TND) it would not comment beyond a press release shared by the organization on its website.

https://abcnews4.com/news/nation-world/trans-day-of-vengeance-protest-continues-as-planned-following-nashville-shooting-trans-radical-activist-network-the-covenant-school

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namitynamechange · 30/03/2023 10:24

How about international day of ignoring the tantruming toddlers?

StandUpStraight · 30/03/2023 10:30

I could say several things about this, all of which would get me deleted. But most people have a particular problem with murderers who kill innocent children. What a way to demonstrate the blind narcissism and rage behind this movement. Not sure how you could ever claim you were On The Right Side of History if you think the death of the murderer is the problem here.

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 10:34

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 07:58

It’s so depressing how people just accept claims that there is anything that can be termed a ‘trans genocide’. Why is it acceptable for TRAs to appropriate the term genocide?

It’s alarming. All the people throwing the term should probably be bloody grateful that they aren’t experiencing an actual genocide.

It is never ‘genocide’ if you are holding well publicised, state supported (through the provision of policing etc), large scale, flag waving protests. Even less so when politicians are promoting your cause.

Why do none of these people - so quick to jump on everyone else’s much more
innocuous language - stop and think about how offensive this is. There are real people who have survived genocide who’ve been through unimaginably terrible things.

They are literally less likely to be murdered than just about any other demographic.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 30/03/2023 10:39

As long as no one gets seriously hurt, I am all for the Day of Vengeance. Every move like this makes it harder for the media and TRAs to maintain the "most vulnerable group ever" fiction.

Hopefully we will see the full lunacy and aggression of the TRA movement of display, but without the police or anyone else getting harmed in the process. At least it's in DC, where the police are very experienced at dealing with protests, and usually manage to control any potential violence.

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 10:39

WickedSerious · 30/03/2023 10:22

What is it that the silly buggers think they're avenging?

Apparently the 12 trans lives lost in 2023 so far.

Except, they are so intentionally vague on the details that we don’t know how many of them were road traffic accident deaths (for example). It’s not even clear if the 12 deaths were murders at all. Never mind how many were actually murders carried out because the murderer hates trans people and wants them not to exist.

Transactivism seems to have an interesting relationship with evidence. And an aversion to people trying to collect better evidence.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 30/03/2023 10:45

Vengeance implies violence against those they consider to have wronged them in some way.

Nothing good will come of it.

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 10:49

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 10:34

They are literally less likely to be murdered than just about any other demographic.

In the UK anyway.

I think the US figures would be interesting if they were actually controlled for key things (like disproportionate participation in prostitution or the drug trade).

It might also be interesting to find out how many are murders within the ‘trans community’ and how many are malevolent outsiders murdering trans people.

But TRAs seem less than keen to support any of this kind of analysis. You do have to wonder what they’re afraid of.

Most feminists, for example, very much want good quantitative data about VAWG and thorough analysis that might help to address causes and improve the problem. It’s curious how resistant TRAs are to good data and analysis.

Clarice99 · 30/03/2023 10:51

Transactivism seems to have an interesting relationship with evidence. And an aversion to people trying to collect better evidence.

Yes!

Along the same lines as the myth that TWAW and TMAM, despite biological facts.

It's a crazy world.

WickedSerious · 30/03/2023 10:53

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 10:39

Apparently the 12 trans lives lost in 2023 so far.

Except, they are so intentionally vague on the details that we don’t know how many of them were road traffic accident deaths (for example). It’s not even clear if the 12 deaths were murders at all. Never mind how many were actually murders carried out because the murderer hates trans people and wants them not to exist.

Transactivism seems to have an interesting relationship with evidence. And an aversion to people trying to collect better evidence.

It would be interesting to see how many of them have died at the hands of the men they live with.

Mixkle · 30/03/2023 11:05

SpicyMoth · 30/03/2023 01:59

How are so many people actually going along with this ideology? That's what I can't get my head around, and that's a genuine question too.
I cannot grasp how people can't see how insane the trans politics is.
Nothing against genuinely trans people, but there's such an obvious difference between an individual vs this weird, woman hating political movement.

I'm nearly 27, and all of my once friends are either all super NPC about it, or so intensely pro-trans that you can't even suggest to them that it's for trans people's benefit that they're not sterilised when they're children so that if they want families when they're older, they have the option.
Rather than the choice being made for them when they're too young to understand.

It's baffling.

It is a vivid reminder that with the right psychological tactics, the average person can easily be recruited into supporting insane and vicious groups. Look at Hitler’s Germany, look at the witch burnings, look at any cult, look at Burma and Iran and Afghanistan. The huge numbers of people supporting those murders were normal people once. And that is very scary.

The whole thing is a depressing verdict on the education system. Everyone in the West has been to school, we’re supposed to have learned how to spot and avoid this kind of delusional violent tribalism.

And yet.

NotTerfNorCis · 30/03/2023 11:06

We're not allowed to say what this movement is.

But they sure love their zealotry, their specialness and their martyrdom.

HermioneWeasley · 30/03/2023 11:10

I can’t think of another civil rights movement which has had a day of “vengeance”.

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 11:13

What are they seeking vengeance for?

Being given everything they demand, whether it is reasonable or not, in most of the western world?

Florissante · 30/03/2023 11:23

Genocidal misgendering.

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 30/03/2023 11:23

Presumably it's vengeance against everyone that's committed literal violence against them by using the wrong pronoun. You know, something proportional like that.

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 11:27

Florissante · 30/03/2023 11:23

Genocidal misgendering.

Oooh... Do you think originally it was supposed to be the trans day of genitalia? But someone's autocorrect changed a discussion about genital misgendering to genocidal misgendering and they are to stupid to realise it's a different word with a different meaning?

Wishful thinking, some of them are just spoilt little sods who can't cold when someone doesn't immediately validate their life choices.

I mean no one validated most of the stupid shit i chose to do when younger, I didn't want to cause them harm though even if i had a few choice words to say!

Boiledbeetle · 30/03/2023 11:29

PastMyBestBeforeDate · 30/03/2023 11:23

Presumably it's vengeance against everyone that's committed literal violence against them by using the wrong pronoun. You know, something proportional like that.

You should be sent to prison for life just for thinking of maybe possibly using the wrong pronouns in some of their eyes i think! So you are probably right.

VitaminX · 30/03/2023 12:11

Everyone should just leave them to get on with their public tantrum. If nobody goes that they can 'avenge themselves upon' then what are they going to do? Start smashing up property? Not unlikely but they'll just make themselves look bad.

The problems will start if other men go along and pick a fight, which I suppose is sadly a possibility. Mums know the best way to deal with a tantrum is to ignore it Wink

Wiccan · 30/03/2023 12:18

Yep totally "Queen Mab " them , if we turn away and don't look they disappear.

WickedSerious · 30/03/2023 12:23

RosaBonheur · 30/03/2023 11:13

What are they seeking vengeance for?

Being given everything they demand, whether it is reasonable or not, in most of the western world?

The price of size 13 kitten heels?

VitaminX · 30/03/2023 12:27

I'm not saying they'll disappear. I hope they do nothing more than shout a bit and wave some signs around, as is their right to do, but of course I see there's a risk they'll do worse and I hope the police presence reflects the aggression of their statements.

But if a large number of unstable, aggressive, overgrown children announce an intention to gather in public looking for a fight, well only an idiot would go along and give them one.

Wiccan · 30/03/2023 12:54

Plenty of idiots who would go along though. But It's probably all just to wind the current situation up and they have no empathy , they are using the word Vengeance, just about says it all !

VitaminX · 30/03/2023 13:06

Oh absolutely they will. Doubt they'll be feminists, though. Just wishful thinking from me, really.

risefromyourgrave · 30/03/2023 13:28

SquidwardBound · 30/03/2023 08:30

But why are all the fawning sycophants in politics and the media not challenging this stuff?

The guardian (for example) would be quick to jump all over racist micro aggressions for example. But not only do they fail to challenge this appropriation of genocide, they actually repeat and amplify it.

I think it’s because a sense of righteousness is a powerful drug. They’re so high on ‘doing the right thing’ that they don’t stop to wonder if it is, indeed, the right thing to do.

I was looking at Stephen King’s Twitter today, and as much as I love his writing (re-reading 11/22/63 at the moment), he is certainly high on ‘being the good guy’.

Wiccan · 30/03/2023 13:33

The whole trans ideology is giving me nightmares tbh but I feel I have to keep one eye on it as it's all so fucked up.