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BreviloquentBastard · 19/03/2023 00:40

I just cringed so hard I'm wearing my back hole as a scarf.

endofthelinefinally · 19/03/2023 00:42

So debasing. Reducing women to a collection of holes. Just what thought processes lead to this horrible terminology?

Underminer · 19/03/2023 00:42

Clearly written by an arsehole

theinbetweener · 19/03/2023 00:43

Sounds vile to me. I agree with the previous poster that it's degrading women to only being holes. How horrible. Time we got some common sense in place and stopped trying to derail everything women have fought for previously.

GenerallyGreenerGrass · 19/03/2023 00:46

“Front hole”? Really?
in a medical article?
Probably written by an arse-hole!

MariCooyong · 19/03/2023 00:47

our sex organs are not ‘holes’, they are organs. ‘Hole’ is pornspeak. The people who think of them of holes are porn-addled men. I’d be tempted to write a very angry email to whoever wrote that booklet.

Fromwetome · 19/03/2023 00:49

Can you post a link or name the website. I'm actually trying to get this language changed and want to say something to them. I sick of this shit

Fromwetome · 19/03/2023 00:51

folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-hrt-and-front-hole-irritation-101-vaginal-atrophy-symptoms-and-treatment-options-explained-by-folx/

Holy shit. Didn't have to look too hard. What the actual fuck??

Rainbowshit · 19/03/2023 00:51

That's absolutely vile. 🤮🤮

SammyScrounge · 19/03/2023 00:53

endofthelinefinally · 19/03/2023 00:42

So debasing. Reducing women to a collection of holes. Just what thought processes lead to this horrible terminology?

A horrible person's?

Original poster

Advicerequest · 19/03/2023 00:54

It's an article is inclusive as in does not want to offend Trans men who are alienated by the ter vagina. Trans women get lady dick.

OP posts:

EpicChaos · 19/03/2023 00:58

An attempt to keep the kids babyfied maybe?
A bit like them calling a double mastectomy, top surgery. As if it's nothing at all, instead of the major surgery that it is.
If they say too much, the kids just might start asking questions, possibly, hopefully.

TheBiologyStupid · 19/03/2023 01:07

Sadly, this shit has been around for a while: twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath/status/1416347045368107013

dollypartin · 19/03/2023 01:14

Underminer · 19/03/2023 00:42

Clearly written by an arsehole

🤣

EpicChaos · 19/03/2023 01:14

They like " shame free " language but i take issue with that, i think there ought to be a lot of shaming language and it should be aimed at them.

Ponderingwindow · 19/03/2023 01:14

Just seeing that phrase in active topics is upsetting.

it is sadly not new.

eloquent · 19/03/2023 01:20

Even weirder, surely the "front hole" would be the urethra, not the vagina???

NameChangeSadness · 19/03/2023 01:25

Wouldn't a woman's front hole be her urethra?

Utini · 19/03/2023 01:27

Fromwetome · 19/03/2023 00:51

folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-hrt-and-front-hole-irritation-101-vaginal-atrophy-symptoms-and-treatment-options-explained-by-folx/

Holy shit. Didn't have to look too hard. What the actual fuck??

That particular site is aimed at trans and non binary people, who may prefer not to think of themselves as having a vagina. While I dislike the terminology and wouldn't want to see it used more generally, I don't think it's unreasonable to have literature aimed at specific groups using their preferred terms.

NameChangeSadness · 19/03/2023 01:29

Utini · 19/03/2023 01:27

That particular site is aimed at trans and non binary people, who may prefer not to think of themselves as having a vagina. While I dislike the terminology and wouldn't want to see it used more generally, I don't think it's unreasonable to have literature aimed at specific groups using their preferred terms.

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It's biologically inaccurate.

The front hole in a woman's anatomy is her urethra. The vagina would be the middle hole.

How can we talk about medical issues if we aren't allowed to even label body parts correctly??

LadyGAgain · 19/03/2023 01:32

Advicerequest · 19/03/2023 00:39

I was googling info about vaginal HRT tonight and came accross a medical article referring to a 'front hole'. This is apparently a 'gender affirming term' (as opposed to euphemistic three year old speak.)

FFS.
VAGINA.

GourmetLettuceMix · 19/03/2023 01:35

This trans health website considers "front hole" to be a medical term:
www.transhub.org.au/language

My kids as little ones referred to their front bottom as where the wee came from, so I do find "front hole" both demeaning and infantising.

Utini · 19/03/2023 01:39

NameChangeSadness · 19/03/2023 01:29

It's biologically inaccurate.

The front hole in a woman's anatomy is her urethra. The vagina would be the middle hole.

How can we talk about medical issues if we aren't allowed to even label body parts correctly??

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Well yes of course it's biologically inaccurate. I would hope mainstream literature doesn't ever use this term. But if women who identify as trans are avoiding information on their health because of the terms used, then isn't it better that they have the information they need in language they're ok with?

Redbird87 · 19/03/2023 02:02

I used to identify as masculine, but thank God my friends' terrible experiences with hrt kept me away from medically transitioning. "Front hole" is so disgusting and insulting, but considering that EVERY SINGLE ftm I've met has been sexually traumatized, it makes perfect sense.

Before figuring out the source of my own dysphoria, I wanted to distance myself from those parts, too. Myself and other older millennials/Gen x'ers used the most misogynistic phrasing we could think of when we HAD to talk about our vaginas. It was distancing, but also being in on the joke. You know that no one in their right mind sees a man when they talk to you, hear your voice, see your tiny hands, so you have to point it out before they can.

Whole thing is fucked up and cruel, and the system is perpetuating it by telling these girls that their revulsion means of course they aren't weak,fragile, vulnerable, complicated girls, instead of why they're running from their own womanhood.

Musomama1 · 19/03/2023 06:50

MariCooyong · 19/03/2023 00:47

our sex organs are not ‘holes’, they are organs. ‘Hole’ is pornspeak. The people who think of them of holes are porn-addled men. I’d be tempted to write a very angry email to whoever wrote that booklet.

Abso fucking lutely.

Hole is definitely pornspeak and also how many porn drenched activists and incels view women.

My vagina is not a front hole.