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Trans woman who threatened to rape own mother sentenced to female prison

164 replies

IwasToldThereWouldBeCake · 16/03/2023 18:08

www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/barbie-kardashian-jailed-for-five-and-a-half-years-for-threats-to-kill-mother-1448686.html

What the hell, words fail me!!! Not acceptable at all.

OP posts:
SomeHorribleMamsnetter · 16/03/2023 22:02

PronounssheRa · 16/03/2023 18:20

It's tragic that I'm grateful there is reporting on this.

There was a time where it felt like there was a media blackout on kardashian.

That's because there was a media blackout!

gript.ie/barbie-kardashian-the-full-story/

SomeHorribleMamsnetter · 16/03/2023 22:07

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4033284-Another-one-for-Irish-Feminists-this-person-holds-a-GRC-and-might-soon-be-held-in-Dochas-prison-with-women-and-childrem

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4050131-T-sla-and-Barbie-Kardashian

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4370309-Jesus-this-is-the-most-disturbing-thing-i-may-have-ever-read-on-so-many-levels

BK is a horribly disturbing case on so many levels.

Added to which is the bizarre idea that keeping anyone in solitary - necessary, I understand, because of him being a danger to women in the prison population - is in any way more 'humane' than holding him in a male prison.

How the hell this story hasn't peaked Ireland, I do not know. I suppose the forementioned media blackout will mean many are not even aware.

SomeHorribleMamsnetter · 16/03/2023 22:09

Content warning for some parts of this article:

gript.ie/barbie-kardashian-jailed-with-women-for-threats-of-rape-murder/

Redebs · 16/03/2023 22:20

Soubriquet · 16/03/2023 19:42

Makes you wonder why he identifies as a woman if he hates women?

Because forcing himself into women's spaces and mocking women are ways of showing his hatred.
There's a lot of it about

BlessedKali · 16/03/2023 22:23

Slightly off-topic musing, but if they are housing prisoners based on 'gender' and this is being treated as legitimate by the powers that be...

Then surely someone identifying as non-binary could get out of going to prison on the grounds that is nowhere for them to be housed?

IwantToRetire · 16/03/2023 22:30

Not wanting to divert this discussion but just adding this disturbing story in the news:

A trans predator who raped a friend with ‘her penis’ was convicted of having sex with an underage teenage girl when she was a man.

Lexi-Rose Crawford was an 18-year-old biological male called Dominic Risden when he was jailed for four years in 2017 for having sex with the girl he met online.

It is believed the trans predator will be sent to a male prison if she is given a custodial sentence for rape, despite being referred to as Miss by lawyers and Judge Michael Longman throughout her four-day trial last week.

Sorry for DM link www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11858779/Trans-woman-guilty-rape-previously-jailed-having-sex-girl-15-man.html

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 16/03/2023 22:38

The most vulnerable women placed,
in prisons with men, then faced
with the deluded view of power,
who say that it is okay to shower,
with a man who rips eyelids away,
but apparently that is okay,
because it is more important to say,
that men can there, that is the way.

Timeflieswhenyourehavingfun · 16/03/2023 22:42

SomeHorribleMamsnetter · 16/03/2023 22:02

That's because there was a media blackout!

gript.ie/barbie-kardashian-the-full-story/

There’s no media black out, it’s all over Irish media.

Gript Is not a reliable source, the owner is extreme right wing, contributes to the Irish Catholic publication, is openly anti pro choice, anti vaccine. anti same sex marriage, the list goes on.

IwasToldThereWouldBeCake · 16/03/2023 22:45

BK was sentenced today, it was not on the national news (RTE) or TV3. No mention of it. That's weird.

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Username721 · 16/03/2023 22:49

The photo of this individual is like something out of a horror film.

SomeHorribleMamsnetter · 16/03/2023 22:58

Timeflieswhenyourehavingfun · 16/03/2023 22:42

There’s no media black out, it’s all over Irish media.

Gript Is not a reliable source, the owner is extreme right wing, contributes to the Irish Catholic publication, is openly anti pro choice, anti vaccine. anti same sex marriage, the list goes on.

That link was to an article from 2020. At that time, there was an injunction out and yes, there was a media blackout. Further details in some of the links I supplied upthread.

That may have changed for this new news.

As for the political purity of whatever publication, that's entirely irrelevant.

ScrollingLeaves · 16/03/2023 22:59

B K is very dangerous and in a women’s prison. They have not had surgery and I think not hormone treatment either. They have self-IDed under the Irish system.

I notice BK was sexually abused as a child, and was also put into care - both known to be factors behind gender dysphoria though on the petition to have her moved from Limerick women’s prison it says people think B K doesn’t suffer from gender dysphoria.

KalimbaMoon · 16/03/2023 23:06

This person is beyond terrifying and shouldn’t be anywhere near women. It’s a tragedy waiting to happen.

Down2thefloor · 16/03/2023 23:21

Timeflieswhenyourehavingfun · 16/03/2023 19:25

Barbie has been housed in Limerick’s women’s prison since turning 18 following release from residential care facility for minors. They are kept in isolation 23 hrs a day and never share any space with female prisoners.

I do wonder though are female prisoner officers exposed to Barbie.
Barbie is an extremely troubled and dangerous person.

thecountess.ie/limerick-prison-the-rights-of-female-prisoners/

Then why can't they do this in a MALE prison where he belongs??

LemonadeSunshine · 16/03/2023 23:42

PronounssheRa · 16/03/2023 18:20

It's tragic that I'm grateful there is reporting on this.

There was a time where it felt like there was a media blackout on kardashian.

WTF is that??!! It seems that the more violent the offender, the more hyper sexualized the 'female look', because you know, big breasts, thick makeup, sex doll lips, pink pink pink, are just what us natal women do

VaddaABeetch · 16/03/2023 23:42

BK can’t go into a male prison because BK might feel threatened by the men

Or BK might feel sad.

Fuck women, why would their safety matter a man might feel
SAD.

smileladiesplease · 16/03/2023 23:52

Trans woman so a man

Grassisbluer · 17/03/2023 00:34

334bu · 16/03/2023 21:58

"These are the offensive anti-Irish posts on this thread, so I don’t know how you can say rubbish"

Why is truth anti Irish?

I'm Irish. I think calling Ireland the land of paedophile priests, and saying nothing better can thus be expected of Ireland and the Irish, shows clear prejudice and is very offensive actually.

I hope we can work towards changing the ridiculous prioritisation of gender over sex very soon. This terrible situation in Limerick prision does not represent the wishes of the vast majority of Irish people.

Abhannmor · 17/03/2023 00:57

Yes , there is a substratum of anti Irish feeling in the English psyche alas. Doesn't take much to stir up the bottom of that pond.

Posters are pissed off with the SNP , for example, but sending rapists to a women's prison is never described in racist terms when they do it. Well ...so far.

Barbie's name is Alejandro and his parents are Chilean fwiw. An appalling childhood by all accounts. He should be in a secure psychiatric unit with other men.

Timothhorton · 17/03/2023 01:04

barbie is dangerously
violent, the Maddix attack was when barbie was sitting in the back of the car with another
social worker, and attacked the driver by putting his fingers in his eyes whilst Maddix was driving on the motorway. I believe Maddix needed 2 weeks in hospital and needed reconstructive eyelid surgery. Small female prisons do not have the facilities, training or
manpower for holding such violent criminals. Even on the
male estates you are still looking at specialist high security accommodation in a particular prison with Hannibal lector type facilities. I expect like most women’s prisons it has a
mother and baby unit which is especially worrying. This happened in Canada for example, once you set precident these things happen. reduxx.info/canada-man-who-raped-infant-quietly-moved-to-prison-with-mother-baby-unit-after-transgender-claim/

Theeyeballsinthesky · 17/03/2023 06:32

If there’s no media blackout as a PP said, can I assume it’s all over the news like Isla Byron was? That tv news programmes are running headline stories? That it’s being discussed on prime time TV?

I can’t believe that’s true because it is was I can’t believe that ool in Ireland wouldn’t be absolutely up in arms the way that ppl in Scotland were.

i suspect the vast majority of Irish ppl haven’t a clue about BK, what he’s done and the fact he’s in a woman’s prison

SomeHorribleMamsnetter · 17/03/2023 07:08

To clarify: there was an injunction on reporting in 2020.

If there is a lack of reporting on the subject now, without any injunction, then there is not so much an imposed blackout as voluntary silence. As we see quite often on similar subjects elsewhere.

Canadian woodwork teacher, for example, was barely reported on.

Wi Spa, likewise. We had an article in the Guardian calling it 'fake news', iirc.

Karen White? Scant reporting. Most people remain unaware.

Isla Bryson was a rare exception and seemed to come only after Scotland had really lost the rag with the GRR.

Florissant · 17/03/2023 07:37

DandyMandy · 16/03/2023 20:24

This thread had potential but as always the anti-Irish bigotry is out in full display.

Nonsense.

johnnytightlips · 17/03/2023 07:38

Theeyeballsinthesky · 16/03/2023 21:05

I wonder if our usual TWAW apologists will be along to defend this one

No they seem to be very quiet about this one, I can't see Teni or BelongTo owning this one, it will be brushed under the big carpet I would think.
If BK wasn't identifying as a woman, can you imagine the uproar that it would have received in the media as a man?

Florissant · 17/03/2023 07:39

334bu · 16/03/2023 21:58

"These are the offensive anti-Irish posts on this thread, so I don’t know how you can say rubbish"

Why is truth anti Irish?

Because victimhood is appealing and any kind of criticism creates victims.

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