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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans woman who threatened to rape own mother sentenced to female prison

164 replies

IwasToldThereWouldBeCake · 16/03/2023 18:08

www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/barbie-kardashian-jailed-for-five-and-a-half-years-for-threats-to-kill-mother-1448686.html

What the hell, words fail me!!! Not acceptable at all.

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PillBoxes · 16/03/2023 19:56

Are prisoners only placed in a secure psychiatric hospital if they are found guilty but insane? Would they have to plead insanity first?

I'm not sure but that's exactly where he belongs, then he would not be released until he was deemed ok in the head. Which could be never.

As it is he could be released in a couple of years to run rampage again. THAT is a big danger for women isn't it?

twitterexile · 16/03/2023 20:00

When a woman is killed by this man, they will apologise and say that lessons have be learned.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 16/03/2023 20:10

Episode 1, and I think episode 3, of this podcast gives you some idea of how things work in Limerick prison: paddyspodcast.ie/episodes-1/

(Interviews with prisoners; it would be good to hear from staff as well who presumably have to have more close interaction.)

FOJN · 16/03/2023 20:22

nepeta · 16/03/2023 18:15

I read quite a bit about this case when it was first in the news. Kardashian was sent to the Tavistock clinic as Ireland does to minors who have gender dysphoria. The sources I saw stated that the clinician there had suspected Kardashian of not having dysphoria but of playing the system.

Whether this is true or not, this example is extremely troubling.

I read quite a lengthy report about this individual when the case was first made public and iirc Kardashian was assessed by two psychologists/psychiatrists and neither diagnosed gender dysphoria.

The attack on the social worker was horrifying.

BK WILL kill a woman if they are released, anyone who says this can't be predicted should never be in a position to consider whether this individual is safe to be released.

DandyMandy · 16/03/2023 20:24

This thread had potential but as always the anti-Irish bigotry is out in full display.

FOJN · 16/03/2023 20:26

PronounssheRa · 16/03/2023 18:20

It's tragic that I'm grateful there is reporting on this.

There was a time where it felt like there was a media blackout on kardashian.

That's because there was. The article linked to in the OP has been deleted, the deletion is discussed further on in the thread.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4050131-T-sla-and-Barbie-Kardashian

VaddaABeetch · 16/03/2023 20:27

@DandyMandy im Irish, where’s the anti Irish bigotry?

PillBoxes · 16/03/2023 20:28

DandyMandy · 16/03/2023 20:24

This thread had potential but as always the anti-Irish bigotry is out in full display.

Can you quote the post(s) that you refer to, thanks.

Anti Barbie for sure, but anti Irish? Come on.

DandyMandy · 16/03/2023 20:30

PillBoxes · 16/03/2023 20:28

Can you quote the post(s) that you refer to, thanks.

Anti Barbie for sure, but anti Irish? Come on.

There are two specific comments on the first and second pages. The people who wrote them are absolutely not Irish and you'll spot the comments when you look for them.

twitterexile · 16/03/2023 20:36

DandyMandy · 16/03/2023 20:24

This thread had potential but as always the anti-Irish bigotry is out in full display.

Rubbish.

ÉireannachÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉÉ · 16/03/2023 20:37

DandyMandy · 16/03/2023 20:24

This thread had potential but as always the anti-Irish bigotry is out in full display.

I've reported and it's been deleted

Meltychocolateteapot · 16/03/2023 20:38

Really disappointed with the anti-Irish digs on this thread, there’s actually three pretty obnoxious comments. Redirect your disdain towards ‘Barbie Kardashian’ please!

IwasToldThereWouldBeCake · 16/03/2023 20:38

podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/paddys-podcast/id1631424166

S2Episode1

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Backstreets · 16/03/2023 20:40

He’s absolutely terrifying. Even Jigsaw off the Saw movies wouldn’t want to meet that in a dark alleyway.

Timeflieswhenyourehavingfun · 16/03/2023 20:40

Yes.

Timeflieswhenyourehavingfun · 16/03/2023 20:42

Timeflieswhenyourehavingfun · 16/03/2023 20:40

Yes.

Arrrgh, meant to quote the post I was replying to. Will try again

Timeflieswhenyourehavingfun · 16/03/2023 20:44

Winederlust · 16/03/2023 19:45

But they could just as easily have the same set up in the men's prison, surely?

Due to self ID law Barbie is female.

Meltychocolateteapot · 16/03/2023 20:46

twitterexile · 16/03/2023 20:36

Rubbish.

‘Ireland's misogyny runs deep’

‘women are fairly far down the pecking order in Ireland still’

And ‘I expect nothing less from the land of paedophile priests’

These are the offensive anti-Irish posts on this thread, so I don’t know how you can say rubbish.

Northernsouloldies · 16/03/2023 20:47

The last place this creature should be in is a women's prison.

DysonSpheres · 16/03/2023 20:58

I actually feel sick reading this.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 16/03/2023 21:05

I wonder if our usual TWAW apologists will be along to defend this one

Timingiseverythingcoll · 16/03/2023 21:11

If someone is incredibly dangerous to women - we should house them with in the same prison as women because…?

WitheredandOld · 16/03/2023 21:28

This is the same man who violently assaulted his social worker. He’s very, very dangerous. I can only hope these cases prompt the “be kind” brigade to have second thoughts.

Clearly Irish politicians give zero fucks about the safety of vulnerable women.

tellyoumysinssoyoucansharpenyourknife · 16/03/2023 21:30

I'm Irish and agree with the 3 comments above, not anti-Irish in any way.

All true facts

334bu · 16/03/2023 21:58

"These are the offensive anti-Irish posts on this thread, so I don’t know how you can say rubbish"

Why is truth anti Irish?

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