Trans woman who threatened to rape own mother sentenced to female prison

[IwasToldThereWouldBeCake]

www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/barbie-kardashian-jailed-for-five-and-a-half-years-for-threats-to-kill-mother-1448686.html

What the hell, words fail me!!! Not acceptable at all.

It didn't pull my comment in.
The first video isn't available in Ireland due to a court order in our domains. VPN works though.

And just to reiterate:

In 2020, Tusla pressured media outlets to not report on this. They sent threatening letters to any outlet who did report. Although the story was at first reported on widely, all of those articles were subsequently withdrawn. Even the Gript one.

The story is being reported currently, yes. We are three years down the line.

If you're not willing to read up on any sources that do report on the issues you're not really going to be able to take part in any discussion.

You could read the court report I linked to, I guess, if that source meets your approval.

Bizarre, isn't it? The response to a story about a violent, troubled, and dangerous transwoman who fantasises openly about enacting violence on women and girls is 'transwomen are not a threat to cis women'.

Utterly weird.

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command

This has to be one of the most shocking, eye-opening threads I’ve ever read on MN.

I also remember this from 2020 and it's a truly horrific story. I remember when Barbie left court there was a group of teenage girls outside calling Barbie's name like Barbie was a pop star. They seemed genuinely excited to meet Barbie.

Oh that's too good - Limerick feminists blame it all on 'cis' men and white supremacy .

Ireland is 96% white. You could go snowblind walking around Limerick. This is desperate.

They've missed the bit where he tried to gouge his social workers eyes out.

The original MN thread on the case and Gript (a right wing media source) were the only places I really saw the real facts discussed.
Other papers did report on the legal side of the case, but didn't mention the sex of the person involved, which of course was the real story.
It shone too much of a light in the lack of safeguards with Self ID and Ireland wasn't willing to have that discussion.
The government is still desperately trying to avoid having that discussion.
That is why I think that the upcoming referendum will be interesting to watch. It might go in a direction that the government didn't anticipate.

“ Barbie“ is in a women’s prison because under the law in Ireland “ Barbie” is a woman... that lays bare the fundamental issue with Self ID.
It seems that we can’t do much about

Now at last we can speak openly about it. It’s not just the women in Limerick prison, the staff are also vulnerable.
Women on here have known about this terrible situation and tried to raise this for a long time
This man is a deeply disturbed and should be an appropriate place where he will cause no harm to anyone. Even in a locked mental institution what about the others held there? And the staff ?

I remember there was a Limerick City Councillor, I can't remember her name, who made no comment on the presence of violent males being incarcerated with women, but was absolutely outraged that the Limerick Leader had dead named Barbie.
Because, that is just literal violence,you know.

Iirc wasn't there instructions that the violent, fully intact, biological males, could only be searched by female prison officers?
I think that it was a violation of the rights of those biological males to be searched by male prison officers?

Was that Elisa O'Donovan of the Green Party, who may run as a candidate for the Dáil in the next election? Some of her tweets are in this post, and she unequivocally supported the statement from a local "fake feminist" group:

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/irelands-self-id-nightmare-part-2

The Greens are going to be destroyed at the next election. Which is a pity because climate change is real and very important. But they are simply too irresponsible to be allowed in government.

I think they - and People Before Profit - buy their political views as a job lot. They never really think about them or their real world consequences.

I honestly don't know. I have done a search but an awful lot of people seem to have deleted their tweets on this.
Interestingly, I did come across this statement from another Limerick group. Some of the points are very true,such as the fact that Barbie was severely failed as a child. But others are completely missing the issue.
I don't think it was linked up thread, apologies if I missed it.
I don't have the original link, this is a copy and paste

"ROSA, the socialist-feminist group in Limerick, have said that they are “very disappointed” to see that the Limerick Leader had “uncritically published a statement from a so-called 'radical-feminist' group calling themselves Radicaillíní.” The article in question commented on the recent case of a troubled transgender teenager.

A spokesperson for ROSA, Aislinn O'Keeffe said that “groups such as the one mentioned are piling on this case to further their transphobic agenda, spurred on no doubt by recent statements by transphobe-in-chief JK Rowling. Trans women are far more likely to be the victims of violent crime than the perpetrators. As many as one transgender person is believed to be murdered globally every three days, though often there is no formal data collection on the matter so actual figures could be much higher.”¹

Speaking on the specific case reported on, Ms O'Keeffe went on to say, “The case of this violent person, who grew up in what appears to be an extremely violent and neglectful household, is a real indictment of a system that fails to protect women and children. If there had been proper state support in the form of domestic violence services and a functioning public mental health service could an early intervention with this clearly disturbed teen have made a difference to this outcome?

“Where a person poses a danger to other prisoners they ought to be separated from the general prison population regardless of whether it is an all-male or all-female prison. Perpetrators of gender-based violence need to be kept off the streets, and rehabilitated where possible, though unfortunately history has taught us that cases such as this are likely to come up against further systemic failures in the guise of the so-called justice system.”

Ms O'Keeffe concluded by saying, “Trans women are not the enemy. Trans women are women, and face many of the same discriminations that cis-women face with the added discrimination that comes with being trans in a society that thrives on inequality.”

“Trans women are not the enemy. Trans women are women, and face many of the same discriminations that cis-women face with the added discrimination that comes with being trans in a society that thrives on inequality.

If there's an insistence on finding an 'enemy' it's the sexism that believes the indulgence of a man's self image should be valued and nurtured while ignoring and belittling women and telling them the bullshit that their wish for privacy, dignity, safety and equality of consideration is naughty and wrong and their concerns aren't real and don't matter.

TW are male. It's the necessary characteristic: they are not women. They are male and identify as trans. They wish to have privileges not extended to any other males.

They do not face the same issues that women as adult human females do - I don't know about 'cis women', that's a political group of those who self identify with that label, and I assume from speakers like Willoughby they can be of either sex. They are not the sex class female. Male people are not female people and have no idea what the issues and needs of female people are - and do not care either, they are loud and clear on that. Particularly needs and issues that are inconvenient to male freedoms and not titillating.

The needs of TQ+ identified males are no less than an other groups, and nor are they the same. It is not necessary to meet TQ+ male needs by stomping on, ignoring and erasing female needs and realities. TQ+ male needs can be met without ever interfering with female people's rights, needs and spaces.

Which proves that all of this endless waffle is merely about trying to force male people's access to non consenting female people's bodies (no other part of the female is of any interest) and making it sound.... somehow.... ok instead of abhorrent.

though often there is no formal data collection on the matter so actual figures could be much higher.

I love this earnest faith in figures that have been admittedly pulled right out of someone's arse.

“Trans women are far more likely to be the victims of violent crime than the perpetrators.”

Similar with this statement. Is this true? How would you know, if the data isn’t collected consistently?

Even if her statement is true, why is the proportion of sex offenders amongst the imprisoned transwoman population much higher than for non-trans men? Are those prisoners just “at it”? All of them?

Even if her statement is true, why is the proportion of sex offenders amongst the imprisoned transwoman population much higher than for non-trans men? Are those prisoners just “at it”? All of them?

If you could get one of these cheerleaders to answer that question I would give you £50 and a Wispa.

Whilst she was driving !

And had to have reconstructive surgery

@Abhannmor
The Greens are going to be destroyed at the next election. Which is a pity because climate change is real and very important. But they are simply too irresponsible to be allowed in government.

I have a theory about this... the battle for the climate is lost, and no amount of recycling and banning plastic and giving up cars will save us. The Greens need another raison d'etre. (Though it beats me why they've picked a batshit one.)

Yes. HSE has changed document called:

• Busy bodies
• parents have no idea about what is about to be taught, it’s all airy fairy loveliness

I’m not going to say more on here. Ask, in writing, ie email, to school, sight of sex ed material and see how you get on.

work from there. Act as innocent parent, don’t mention gender, toilets, etc.

Oh, Jesus.

I hope that's not true. The Greens may just have abandoned the fight because ... Well, maybe there are reasons.

Nearly every link I clicked on the page had been deleted, page not found, 404, whoops nothing here. So someone has been busy given the links have only been posted over the last couple of days. I'm in the UK not Ireland.

I did read the Irish Times article linked to, and another from the site which went into more detail on what had been said about Barbie's future, post incarceration.

It was interesting to me that although the Irish Times referred to Barbie as "she" throughout, the direct quotes from the judge use "they" and "their" and even Barbie's own Barrister uses a lot of "this young person" phrases.

To change the Irish constitution there must be a referendum. There is an old fashioned clause in the constitution that refers to women.

“The state recognises that by her life within the home, woman gives to the state a support without which the common good cannot be achieved,” the state will “endeavour to ensure that mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labour to the neglect of their duties in the home”.

The referendum is to get rid of that clause. Rightly so. And for UK readers that clause never meant anything in reality but it's time to get rid of it.

BUT now we recently heard in the news they want to use this referendum to introduce another topic. Gender. This is an underhanded means to bring in a new constitutional law. On Gender Equality. We already had the sneaky self id law that none of us had one clue about. This time it is even worse.

Any Irish woman on here knows that the Constitution is one seriously difficult document to change. That is why we women hated the 8th (the clause that banned abortion) and had to have a referendum to put it in there, and several decades and referendums it took to get it out. It's not like a normal law that can be overturned by government. This time women are more aware and when they fully get wind of what is going on, more specifically when Leo is asked about toilets in schools, about Barbie in Limerick's women's prison and asked about whether he believes a man is really a woman if the man says he is, including male rapists then there will be war. But people so far have no clue about much of this. What happened in Scotland has greatly helped though. And the Tavistock.