Trans woman who threatened to rape own mother sentenced to female prison

[IwasToldThereWouldBeCake]

www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/barbie-kardashian-jailed-for-five-and-a-half-years-for-threats-to-kill-mother-1448686.html

What the hell, words fail me!!! Not acceptable at all.

Are these things not true though?

Nothing on the RTÉ news website about this, and the bank holiday means there won't be whole load of discussion about it on the media today. I first heard the Paddy O Gorman interviews last year, and have been haunted by the thought of those poor women (just down the road from me) ever since. Their prison experience is so much worse because of the restrictions placed on them to keep them safe.

It was only a headline in Scotland because it coincided with the Tories over ruling the Scottish Parliament on GRA.

Otherwise it probably wouldn't have been a big story.

The latter half of what you state is true. But Gript were the ones to break the truth. Irish media has a black out in this story and we would never have found out Barbie K was a man without them.

To this day the main steam media do not report in as much depth as UK media. Most noticeable recently in relation to Nicola Sturgeon being in-cable of stating what a man is. There was also only a tiny bit of reporting of the visit by Dr. Cass to Dublin about trans Irish children. With no questioning of anything.

There is a huge fight in the HSE (Irish NHS) about what to do. With competing medical factions. Despite the UK ditching Tavistock, HSE says it will continue to send Irish children there. Because they have no clue what else to do, and are captured by the trans lobby.

Also most Irish parents have no clue about the changes in sex ed in schools to cater to trans ideology. Media says nada.

The people who insist twaw will just say that BK was not a real transwoman, so it doesn’t count

They always say that.

What was the justification for the reporting injunction?

As far as I recall they claimed it was necessary because BK was a minor at the time of at least some of the offences, although there was uncertainty whether this still applied as BK was an adult at trial.

Okay, here's more detail on the previous injunction. From a Gript article that is archived - the current version is the one I posted upthread - the original article has been deleted with a picture that says 'censored'.

'We were not the only outlet to name Ms. Kardashian. The Irish Independent identified Ms Kardashian on September 26th. The Limerick Leader did the same on September 30th. The Burkean Journal reported the story within days, also.
In recent days, Ms. Kardashian’s name has started to disappear from the Irish internet. Not the internet at large – the Irish internet. A person in the UK, or the USA, can still access youtube videos about Ms. Kardashian’s story, but they have been blocked for Irish viewers.
The Burkean Journal story has disappeared.
Today, October 12th, Gript Media was the latest outlet to receive a threatening letter from Tusla, the child and family agency, demanding that we remove all coverage of Ms. Kardashian’s story, on the grounds that publication of the story breaches an order of the high court issued in July 2020.
We shall not be complying, for several reasons.
First, and most importantly, this is a story that is clearly and unambiguously in the public interest. Because of legislation passed by Irish politicians, a biological man who desires to rape and mutilate women has been housed in a prison with vulnerable women. The state obviously wishes to keep this fact secret, but that desire alone is no reason for the facts to remain hidden.
Second, reporting restrictions exist for a reason – to protect the right to a fair trial; to protect the identities of victims of crime; or to protect the identity of a child.
But Ms. Kardashian is not a child. And she is not facing a jury trial. Nor does her identification place any victim of a crime at risk of identification.
Third, we do not consider that the court order is applicable, although Tusla asserts that it is. All of the information published by Gript media was readily available to the public at a click of a button by accessing the website of the Courts Service itself. The court published all of the information about Ms. Kardashian in 2019.'

And more:

'It is patently absurd to suggest, as Tusla does, that it is criminal for one citizen to draw the attention of other citizens to information published by an arm of the citizen’s own Government. The state works for the citizen – not the other way around. If the state publishes information, of its own volition, the public has a right to hear about it.
In the days after the Kardashian story broke, some members of the Gardai were so concerned about the danger this individual poses to the public that they leaked photographs of her, and urged that they be published. Gript was one of two outlets to do so. We would do it again.
We are now faced with the threat of civil, and criminal prosecution, by an arm of the state, for revealing information that is in the public interest, on grounds that are largely spurious.
We will defend our right to provide information to the public that some in authority would rather keep hidden. What else, after all, is a media outlet for?
It is our contention, and belief, that Tusla’s desire to hide the Barbie Kardashian story from public view has little to nothing to do with child protection, which is their remit. Barbie Kardashian, after all, is an adult – and was an adult at all times when her story was covered by Gript.'

His ongoing case about attacking his social worker?

I did a Google search on media coverage. Early reports in the Law Society Gazette. They quote a legal expert saying Irelands GRA has left courts in ' an impossible situation '.

Then the Limerick Leader published a story and were soon denounced on Twitter as transphobic. They deleted a tweet linking to the story.

A quite detailed account on a website called Men's Voices Ireland - who I've never heard of before. When it's left to MRAs to defend women you know things are bad.

@Cailin66 Are schools really going to teach the Teni version of sex / gender? I mean has guidance been issued to teachers. I have left wing feminists telling me it's all a moral panic and the Church still has an iron grip on Irish schools.

Full archive, but MN may hide it: archive.is/Ns0Pj#selection-579.0-595.290

I posted the archive link above, but it has been auto hidden. This is standard for some archive links on Mumsnet.

In the days after the Kardashian story broke, some members of the Gardai were so concerned about the danger this individual poses to the public that they leaked photographs of her, and urged that they be published. Gript was one of two outlets to do so. We would do it again.

I'd forgotten about that part. The Gardai said BK was a danger to the public, but Tusla decided it was apparently more important to hide the details of the case than protect the public.

To clarify - the media stories I refer to above were from 2020. Bigger outlets have since mentioned it...sotto voce.

Penultimate para of the Gript article, which is, as I said, now removed:

'Should the Barbie Kardashian story disappear from our pages, some day, then you, the public, will know that the state has won, and has succeeded in keeping secret a most disturbing series of events.'

And previous court judgement that contains some of the history. Harrowing details.

www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/5da049e34653d07b2518ff8a

I remember reading that when the story originally broke.
I find it really hard not to have a huge amount of sympathy for that child. The child really never had a hope of becoming a happy well adjusted adult.

It just makes me so angry that in 2015 Irish politicians were so consumed with a "be kind" euphoria when they voted for the GRA (unanimously?) , that basic the safety of women and girls wasn't even an afterthought.

Absolutely, a horrific and appalling childhood. And now in solitary confinement. What a life.

Just to clarify, to me, the definition of media blackout means absolutely no reporting at all whereas this story has been reported widely across Irish SM platforms and on national broadsheets, eg Irish Times, The Irish Independent. So not a complete media blackout but the National News outlet RTE has remained quiet.

I still content Gript is not a reliable source and will not open or read any Gript links.

Widely accepted in Ireland that Gript is completely discredited as a reliable source and its only audience are the tinfoil hat brigade.

It’s an absolute shitshow and as an Irish person living in Ireland I’m very disturbed by it all.

Over the years we have celebrated introduction of same sex marriage, the rights for a women to seek an abortion at home, and so much more to erase years of oppression of women and in one foul sweep undo it all with the Gender Recognition Act.

Over the years we have celebrated introduction of same sex marriage, the rights for a women to seek an abortion at home, and so much more to erase years of oppression of women and in one foul sweep undo it all with the Gender Recognition Act.its a good example of the Dentons approach. Tie unpopular reforms to more popular ones (marriage equality) and it offers a veil of protection (get things done under the radar so to speak)

Then the Limerick Leader published a story and were soon denounced on Twitter as transphobic. They deleted a tweet linking to the story.

Yes, I remember. Here's what Limerick "feminists" were most concerned about:

https://twitter.com/LmkFeminist/status/1311625509399396355?s=20

That court link makes uncomfortable reading. This person is clearly very very damaged and currently unable (or unwilling) to control himself.

He’s assaulted his mother in the past (severely enough to be put in the care system at 10) and had to be pulled from a number of family placements AND care homes where other children were present.

He deliberately antagonises or attacks children and adults, focusing almost exclusively on girls and women and more than one of the psychiatrists who’ve assessed him have said he plans (what he perceives as) counter-attacks and ‘reprisals’ in advance. They’ve also stated he’s not suffering from a mental illness - this is learned behaviour.

They even assessed his reporting of ‘gender dysphoria’ as going through a checklist exercise; he knows what to say, but isn’t feeling it, and there’s the implication that the trans-identifying child he was temporarily alongside in a care setting has influenced his presentation.

But THIS is someone who the Irish authorities think is a good fit for a women’s facility?

@Timeflieswhenyourehavingfun significant parts of this story were subject to reporting restrictions by court order, mainly relating to this person's background. This may have been to protect the integrity of the trial process, to hide failures by Tusla, or some other reason. Gript sought to stand up to that but were forced to back down and remove their reporting. Other media only reported the allowed "facts" e.g. that a "woman" had threatened to rape "her" mother.

The court order even extended to international comment - this video by Rose of Dawn is still blocked in the country youtu.be/r6bGo2Dy3fc and this one by Blaire White was IIRC youtu.be/ublfBpy0PQs

StillTish and JL's reports in 2020 for Graham Linehan's newsletter are also worth reading for background:
grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/irelands-self-id-nightmare
grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/irelands-self-id-nightmare-part-2

The first video is blocked here in Ireland due to a "court order in your domain", I wonder what court order is that from now that BK has been sentenced?
It can be watched using a VPN.

Slightly off topic but I don't understand why the GRA, that changed the status of both women and men, didn't need a referendum, given that women are mentioned in the Constitution. Ditto why the upcoming referendum which is about the equality of the sexes is being billed as being about gender.