Caba Baba Rave - take your baby to watch nearly naked men in fetish gear

[Clymene]

Journalist Dominique Samuels has posted video of one of their events: https://twitter.com/dominiquetaegon/status/1630948003962912768?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

Which features men gyrating and hanging from the ceiling surrounded by a crowd of clueless women and their babies.

I would say it's NSFW but it's apparently safe for babies so have a watch.

Here's a reddux article:

https://reduxx.info/uk-sold-out-rave-for-babies-featuring-drag-queens-prompts-outrage/

Since the video went viral, the company has taken down its website and Facebook and made their Instagram private. I wonder why?

Interesting. So in your view the only choices are either abstaining from adult activities altogether, or forcing children to participate in them?

You think that the only choices are not having sex at all, or forcing children to watch you have sex?

do you have children yourself? By which I mean are you a parent... not any other interpretation of that question, even though it may well apply.

If you look at the pictures I posted earlier, a lot of the idiot men are there along with their idiot partners.

@Boiledbeetle or take along the baby who is going to be non the wiser and save the childcare offer for a date night? When DS was that age he sat/napped through some 18+ comedy shows on holiday, he now 9 and doesn't remember any of that holiday as he was 4 months old!

@Bamboux big difference between letting your child to watch you have sex and this kind of entertainment. It's a man in a thong nothing you couldn't see around a pool in the med. You also don't have to go if you don't want to, to be fair the quality of the performances doesn't look great. Better quality with a newborn sure I might have gone.

What do the parents get out of it? What does the baby get out of it?

It's escaped into the wider MN. Someone's posted it on AIBU. When I looked most posters were horrified and a few were thinking it was photoshopped. We got a mention.

My first memories I can date are from 9 months old. It doesnt matter if the child/baby understands what's going on or not it's wrong to subject them to it. It prevents that child from forming decent boundaries and any parent who thinks the show this thread is about is OK needs to give their head a bloody good shake.

I'm here from AIBU - just reading through your thread here

I don't know what pools you're hanging out around but no holiday I've ever been on has included men in fetish gear hanging awkwardly from hooks before gyrating around in tiny leather thongs and thrusting their cocks into children's faces.

This isn't about naked bodies. This isn't panto. This is an adult performance with all that entails.

And yes, the quality is shit, because clearly that's not the point of it. The grooming is the point.

I'm really bored of the ridiculous pretence that not wanting children to be exposed to and involved in hyper sexualised fetishistic performance is somehow equivalent to being a prude or a puritan.

No one with half a brain believes that.

Hello, have you signed the Equality Act petition? Sorry, I'm a little obsessed

@Bamboux A cursory glance was sufficient for me on most of the posts with pics, so hadn't realised that but in that case, between now and monday morning, every last one of those children should be removed from their parents, imo!

I've just finished watching a segment from Patrick Christie? Who on earth is that woman that was on the panel discussing this? The one that said, men would perform like that, in front of little kids, cos cost of living!

I Can feed you another cup of my special tea that might calm you down!

I’m impressed by your sterling work!
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4722618-petition-to-update-the-equality-act-thread-2

Oh, Beetle I am tempted, but it gave me such weird dreams. Nearly naked men dancing in stripper heels for toddlers. Oh, wait 😠

Hello! I haven't seen it I will take a look.

Thank you, @EndlessTea posted a link to the thread. It's actually quite addictive watching the numbers. We need 100k by 20th April. Sign it, if you wish to. Share it, if you can.

well we need 7 for the next palindrome , were playing a rather bizarre game of catch the number! So all signatures welcome!

Well, apparently non-age restricted YouTube videos of biologically female burlesque dancers were a step too far for Mumsnet?

Here’s two images from Google with safe search on, Bettsie Bon Bon’s picture is from Facebook and Cleopantha’s from Linked
in.

I didn’t say anything mean so I can only surmise that MNHQ thought the content too racy for Mumsnet, which as they’ve been performing live for babies and toddlers, sums this whole sorry mess up.

I did wonder what crime you had committed?

Did someone say crocs?

I have been mulling this thread over and questioning to myself how we got to this point. It should be obvious that erotic acts in bright daylight with very little room dressing or ambiance is a really crap idea, totally and utterly inappropriate for children and humiliating for the performers.

There is definitely a demand for new parents to be able to chill out, listen to music - be entertained together- have a bit of a laugh, I can see that dance routines, vocalists, light shows, all sorts could work. But this thing. Why would anyone think that erotic table-dancing derived acts would be a good fit?

The answer I am leaning towards is media grooming - for a good few years now, whenever I would open up BBC iplayer, Ru Paul’s Drag Race would be in my face, Butterfly, Desmond is Amazing, loads of what I consider to be sexualised gender propaganda. On family shows like Britains Got Talent, there are acts which push the envelope. I did find it quite an onslaught, although in recent months it’s not so bad.

Maybe these parents couldn’t see how sexualised it is because they are desensitised and it seems normal?

Yeah, I may be the Queen of Crocs and buy some suspect items, but even I refuse to buy platform Crocs!

That's just a Croc too far!

Can I just say after watching the clip from the original post way too many times. I may have missed out but am I the only one that has an issue with the fact that the man doing the handstand is doing it on a fold up chair. That is a horrific accident just waiting to happen.

Maybe these parents couldn’t see how sexualised it is because they are desensitised and it seems normal?

That is exactly what it is.

There has been a combination of the need for ever increasing sensationalism to pique interest and keep it combined with a movement to increase tolerance to kink, porn and sexualised behaviour. One is the desensitisation that comes from media that has to go further and further to create new excitement and one is deliberately taking advantage to normalise fetishistic behaviour for political and monetary purposes.

The combination is where we are now.

Yes, I’ve watched the same segment, wondering the same thing…who IS that woman who said men would perform like that, in front of little kids, cos cost of living. Does anyone know who she is?

The blatant Health & Safety breaches make me very anxious!

Stripper heels and crawling babies! 😱

here’s an actual kids rave, for comparison:

ALL THE ADULTS ARE FULLY DRESSED!

(the sponsors list cracked me up!)