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Caba Baba Rave - take your baby to watch nearly naked men in fetish gear

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Clymene · 02/03/2023 09:18

Journalist Dominique Samuels has posted video of one of their events: https://twitter.com/dominiquetaegon/status/1630948003962912768?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

Which features men gyrating and hanging from the ceiling surrounded by a crowd of clueless women and their babies.

I would say it's NSFW but it's apparently safe for babies so have a watch.

Here's a reddux article:

https://reduxx.info/uk-sold-out-rave-for-babies-featuring-drag-queens-prompts-outrage/

Since the video went viral, the company has taken down its website and Facebook and made their Instagram private. I wonder why? Confused

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7Worfs · 03/03/2023 16:33

The child looks quite worried and the dad asks (paraphrasing) if the kid is scared that the performer could get hurt?

FFS. I’m not buying that these people are very intelligent. Educated, sure. But they are mid-wits, which makes them prime target for manipulation. These are the people that are able to suspend disbelief.

A bit more brains and you see right through the scam; a bit less brain, you just don’t entertain reality-denying stuff, with added bonus that you trust your eyes and instincts more.

Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 16:37

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/03/2023 15:03

The Honor Oak event wasn’t quite as family friendly as it was billed.

I’ve just been off around Insta and I’ve found quite a few of the performers via looking at image tags.

I found some video footage from Honor Oak, and I’m putting a few stills on here, along with venue matching photos.

This drag queen is a guest star rather than the usual organiser, apparently he appeared on the UK Ru Paul show?

The host drag queen is in the last image, from the pubs Insta account. As you can see, match for the wingback chesterfield chair.

In the video the drag queen hoiks up his skirt, does the splits, and on standing pretends to be tangled in the mic lead, giving him an excuse to bend over and show his arse for as long as possible (not a bare arse, so, small mercies)

And this is the performer who denied lifting their skirt at the event and exposing their underwear?

Maybe they don't consider their leotard or whatever is 'underwear'? But their male entitlement certainly came out in their reply to the woman making a reasonable complaint to the venue...

DysonSpheres · 03/03/2023 16:46

7Worfs · 03/03/2023 16:33

The child looks quite worried and the dad asks (paraphrasing) if the kid is scared that the performer could get hurt?

FFS. I’m not buying that these people are very intelligent. Educated, sure. But they are mid-wits, which makes them prime target for manipulation. These are the people that are able to suspend disbelief.

A bit more brains and you see right through the scam; a bit less brain, you just don’t entertain reality-denying stuff, with added bonus that you trust your eyes and instincts more.

😂

Sorry I couldn't help but find this funny @7Worfs mid-brain. I agree😂😂

ColdMeg · 03/03/2023 16:47

The more I think about this, the more I'm convinced a future episode of Motherland has somehow breached the vale between fact and fiction and manifested itself in Honor Oak.

This whole situation is that batshit. It's like a comedy sketch where a character mistakenly buys tickets for a "baby rave", only to turn up with their kids to discover it's an adults event with pounding music that only lasts for a hour to allow office workers to let off steam at lunchtime, and is full of middle-aged men beating the air to techno with their ties flying in their faces.

ArabellaScott · 03/03/2023 16:49

7Worfs · 03/03/2023 16:33

The child looks quite worried and the dad asks (paraphrasing) if the kid is scared that the performer could get hurt?

FFS. I’m not buying that these people are very intelligent. Educated, sure. But they are mid-wits, which makes them prime target for manipulation. These are the people that are able to suspend disbelief.

A bit more brains and you see right through the scam; a bit less brain, you just don’t entertain reality-denying stuff, with added bonus that you trust your eyes and instincts more.

Mid-wit cuckoos?

ApocalipstickNow · 03/03/2023 16:56

Damn, CryptoFascistMadameCholet, now you got me wasting time* looking at pictures of a young Al Jourgensen.

sorry for the brief off topic.

*not a waste of time.

Bamboux · 03/03/2023 17:01

Ginmonkeyagain · 03/03/2023 14:45

My first reaction is it looks pretty shit, amateurish and a bit awkward. It's like something out of the League of Gentlemen - anyone remember Legz Akimbo?

You wouldn't get away with putting that on for an adult audience.

If you want to do something family friendly that harks your rave years then Big Fish Little Fish out on really good, professional events.

Great post. I do remember Legs Akimbo 😄

Also, I went to quite a few Big Fish Little Fish when my kids were babies. I agree they are genuinely good fun and capture the bits of dance/rave culture that are truly family friendly.

Bamboux · 03/03/2023 17:01

ApocalipstickNow · 03/03/2023 16:56

Damn, CryptoFascistMadameCholet, now you got me wasting time* looking at pictures of a young Al Jourgensen.

sorry for the brief off topic.

*not a waste of time.

That is never a waste of time. ❤️ 💙 💜

Wellies54 · 03/03/2023 17:09

In terms of quality it reminds me of when a 6 yr old raids the dressing up box and puts of a dance show for their parents. Lots of enthusiasm and zero skill! Parents love it because it's cute.

You have to wonder why the parents in this case are watching such poor quality entertainment - who do they think they are supporting with their claps and cheers? What are they seeing in this?

ReunitedThorns · 03/03/2023 17:25

The same mothers taking their children to this will be the same mothers complaining about their children watching porn at a young age and learning nasty things from it. Both are wrong. Yet they are unable to see that these shows will also be sending the wrong messages to children.

When the inevitable increase of sexual assault rises in primary schools the parents should remember what shows they were taking their children to. Young children will want to recreate what they saw.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/03/2023 17:38

so the upside-down chair arsecheeks belong to this male who uses she/they pronouns…

lucindabhind.com/#gallery

Datun · 03/03/2023 17:39

I've said it before, the government needs to come up with some kind of PSHE syllabus, that is rolled out to every school in the country, adjusted for age.

Included in that should be the way that children, and parents, are groomed. What boundary pushing looks like. An example of a mental checklist with things like 'might this be inappropriate'.

Not everyone understands safeguarding. Hell, I learnt tons of it from Lang Cleg on this very board.

The woman on that programme seemed to think that if no one was actually taking her child, then there was no harm done. It's the very definition of boundary pushing.

People seem reluctant to be critical, or judgemental, or say the word paedophile. We seem to have already been groomed not to speculate, just in case we are wrong.

Whereas safeguarding, as I understand it, assumes everyone is wrong, and it's not personal, you just have to all go through the same assessment.

being suspicious needs to become more acceptable.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/03/2023 17:41

Or as The Very Cool Mummies call themher, ‘Aunt Lucinda’ 🫣

Clymene · 03/03/2023 17:47

I've just looked at lucinda's website and watched a bit of this video:

It's a woman with an open shirt and stickers on her nipples, miming to Time Of Your Life with Lucinda and dancing not very well together.

Why is the audience whooping? I mean if they were primary aged children, then great, they need encouraging but these are adults. I really don't understand why the bar is so fucking low. Putting on make up, wearing a wig and miming to songs. What is entertaining (or skilled) about that?

I honestly find it baffling.

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Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 17:48

That performer seems to be very determined that everyone sees their arse and spread legs aren't they? It seems to be all their act focuses on.... seems to be targeting a different audience really...

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/03/2023 17:50

Surprised but pleased re how many Ministry fans are on FWR, maybe we need to start a Metalhead Mothers say ‘It’s Not Difficult, Just Hire a Fucking Babysitter’ org?
🤘🖤😃

RethinkingLife · 03/03/2023 17:51

Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 17:48

That performer seems to be very determined that everyone sees their arse and spread legs aren't they? It seems to be all their act focuses on.... seems to be targeting a different audience really...

Hence the pun in the name? (About as hilarious as Paris Lees. I forget the stage names that involve 'Flo' and ADeeHD.')

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/03/2023 17:54

I propose a new law - if you can’t do this lift you are forbidden from using the Dirty Dancing music in your shitty cabaret act:

Caba Baba Rave - take your baby to watch nearly naked men in fetish gear
Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 17:56

RethinkingLife · 03/03/2023 17:51

Hence the pun in the name? (About as hilarious as Paris Lees. I forget the stage names that involve 'Flo' and ADeeHD.')

No doubt. But as I said, maybe they are targeting a different audience? I am really not interested as a female in a male arsehole? (and yes that works on different levels)

ApocalipstickNow · 03/03/2023 17:57

Not just that, I’m a HUGE fan of horror films but I still wouldn’t make my 9 year old sit and watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Night of the Living Dead or American Werewolf in London. Shit- I used to turn her dad’s boxsets around so she didn’t see the art work of the video nasties. And when she was 2 and she got hold of New York Ripper I took it off her and put it out of reach, I didn’t shout “Darling! Little Apoco has decided she wants to check out Fulci! I mean it’s her choice! What’s the harm?”

and I get pissed of that she knows who Jason Vorhees is because of bloody Roblox vids. Because she shouldn’t know about this stuff yet.

ApocalipstickNow · 03/03/2023 17:58

That was a follow up to Crypto’s comments btw.

7Worfs · 03/03/2023 18:05

Datun · 03/03/2023 17:39

I've said it before, the government needs to come up with some kind of PSHE syllabus, that is rolled out to every school in the country, adjusted for age.

Included in that should be the way that children, and parents, are groomed. What boundary pushing looks like. An example of a mental checklist with things like 'might this be inappropriate'.

Not everyone understands safeguarding. Hell, I learnt tons of it from Lang Cleg on this very board.

The woman on that programme seemed to think that if no one was actually taking her child, then there was no harm done. It's the very definition of boundary pushing.

People seem reluctant to be critical, or judgemental, or say the word paedophile. We seem to have already been groomed not to speculate, just in case we are wrong.

Whereas safeguarding, as I understand it, assumes everyone is wrong, and it's not personal, you just have to all go through the same assessment.

being suspicious needs to become more acceptable.

Excellent post.
It’s the downfall of the West, really. Extreme tolerance.
In just several decades entire societies have been groomed to make small concessions each day, inconvenience ourselves just a little bit, don’t make noises or rock the boat.
Accept this, accept that, right side of history…
I mean, a significant population size was prepared to spend the rest of their lives (and their children’s) under house arrest because of an illness with 99% survival rate…
It’s scary what Western societies accept without question every day, and it gets worse and worse.

Apologies if I’m offending anyone. I’m Eastern European myself but love the UK as much as my own country, so it’s painful to be here for the downfall.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 03/03/2023 18:19

This Lucinda’s colleague from the video @Clymene

www.swansevents.co.uk/honeybadgerscabaret

twitter.com/ndpresents

I don’t actually care if a man wants to perch upside down and show his glittery arsehole to other men, and some of the make up is kinda interesting but holy shit, if you advertise that you make shows for ‘Boundary Pushers’ don’t you dare complain about the Daily Mail printing pics of you with your gusset and arsecheeks in babies and toddlers faces!

This is not a PANTO.

Helleofabore · 03/03/2023 18:25

‘Boundary Pushers’

In plain sight! They know it. We know it.

Bamboux · 03/03/2023 18:28

Wellies54 · 03/03/2023 17:09

In terms of quality it reminds me of when a 6 yr old raids the dressing up box and puts of a dance show for their parents. Lots of enthusiasm and zero skill! Parents love it because it's cute.

You have to wonder why the parents in this case are watching such poor quality entertainment - who do they think they are supporting with their claps and cheers? What are they seeing in this?

I think they are applauding themselves for being so cool and daring. The whole thing is a performance. Audience included.

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