Caba Baba Rave - take your baby to watch nearly naked men in fetish gear

[Clymene]

Journalist Dominique Samuels has posted video of one of their events: https://twitter.com/dominiquetaegon/status/1630948003962912768?s=61&t=gd6tu0Iz6JpyKXGLWMLGjg

Which features men gyrating and hanging from the ceiling surrounded by a crowd of clueless women and their babies.

I would say it's NSFW but it's apparently safe for babies so have a watch.

Here's a reddux article:

https://reduxx.info/uk-sold-out-rave-for-babies-featuring-drag-queens-prompts-outrage/

Since the video went viral, the company has taken down its website and Facebook and made their Instagram private. I wonder why?

Seasonofthewitch83 · Yesterday 11:17

Here follows a dictionary definition of DARVO:

I can only imagine the type of utter wanker who complains about it.

Yep. Of course. Our kids take their cues from us. We’re the “gate” through which they learn whether what’s in front of them is safe or not.

If mummy and daddy are laughing and clapping at this funny man showing me his arsehole, then I’m safe, right, if any adult shows me any private part of their body 😵‍💫

"If mummy and daddy are laughing and clapping at this funny man showing me his arsehole, then I’m safe, right, if any adult shows me any private part of their body"

Yep. In plain sight.

Oh but it’s okay, you know. They have the right accent and studied Classics at Bristol and then a law conversion in London and now a partner in a Big Wanky City firm so it’s all good. They know just what they’re doing.

LemonSwan · Today 11:32

Well of course they can’t consent. That’s my point. They don’t have any idea what’s going on.

Not in an adult sense, no, but babies and toddlers learn by observation and repetition. Why do you think that they'll watch the same cartoon, over and over again? Why do you think that mams sing the same songs to them?

They're a lot more switched on than many people realise, even when they're non verbal. At 6 months, if I tapped my watch, my daughter screamed and wiled, because she knew it was bedtime. At 12 months, I tried to stop her putting stickers on the leather sofa and said, "Oh, go and put them on the dog's head."

She went straight to the dog and put them on her head. Normalising this sort of thing from a very young age is inappropriate, dangerous and extremely bloody stupid.

I'm not sure if this is necessarily grooming the children.

Someone earlier mentioned the " Abducted in plain sight" documentary and they were bang on. New mothers are being shown through peer pressure that this sort of behaviour is appropriate to expose children to.

With regards to the poster who mentioned that this was a poor audience for the performer, Is imagine that getting to display your fetish to a captive audience of mums and babies is exactly the sort of audience these performers most appreciate.

A poster came on midway through the thread claiming the videos were fake. This tweet which is gaining some traction amongst TRAs makes the same claim. I dont think the videos are fake at all(though I have no expertise in this area) but do look at how confidently this is asserted.
twitter.com/HugoThePinkCat/status/1631303882725892116

WTF. That's worse than I thought. How can anyone defend that in good faith?

Whilst I understand the premise that babies are fairly oblivious, I'm not sure about babies being immune to this. They absolutely pick up on vibes.

Their mothers (and fathers) will be watching scantily clad men doing a sex show. As well all the rest of the audience. It's had almost universal condemnation. There's no way the entire performance is characterised by a complete absence of unease from the audience. Reactions not normally associated with a child centred day out will be rippling through the audience.

It's simply not anything that a responsible parent would want to subject their child to.

But, as other posters have pointed out, it's more than that. The entire show is centred around the babies. I'm not sure if they enforce it, but the premise is that it's conditional on bringing one.

Uneasy parents, adults who don't understand boundaries or appropriate behaviour around children, plus the invitation to drink disinhibiting booze.

That's all bad enough. But I genuinely find it disturbing that some people aren't more exercised about it.

It's a slow creep of normalising sexual behaviour around children. And it's everywhere. This is just a symptom. Ignoring it allows it to flourish.

You have (deliberately or accidentally) missed the point.

You said you didn't have a problem with this because it was "optional".

I'm pointing out that it's only optional for the parents. The babies don't have any options here. They cannot choose whether or not to be there.

That is the WHOLE POINT of safeguarding.

By your own logic, it's fine to show babies under one absolutely everything. Live sex shows. Murder. Suicide. Because they can't remember things for longer than two weeks, or some bollocks like that.

hardly going to be seared into their consciousness ? If you actually have a 10 month old baby, I strongly suggest that you start reading some very basic introductions to how babies' brains develop. 'How babies think' is a good, accessible place to start. Because honestly, everything you're saying about this is total arse.

These will be the same people who called the Wi Spa fake. Who, in fact, claimed it was a gender critical women making the entire thing up.

Not, as it turned out, a convicted sex offender exposing himself to children.

They're just idiots trying to drum up denial. The company themselves have commented ffs.

It would actally be a relief if it were fake.

The strappy twirl dancer posts about doing caba baba rave on his social media.

BTW the name itself is laboured babble.

Well at least that means that, on some level, they know this just isn't right.

Those babies don’t have a choice.
Plus it’s ok to be bothered about more than one thing

Yes, it’s interesting isn’t. And then another poster is wavering because of historic info but then excuses it. Let’s pretend it’s a ploy by ‘far right wing’ because it does actually look bad, but actually it’s not that bad after all it’s real.

It didn’t happen, but if it did, it’s not that big a deal…

It didn’t happen, but if it did, it’s not that big a deal…

it's uncanny, isn't it.

Yeah, I have seen some of these. One is talking about a foot and shoe being missing. No... it is visible all the way through. It never disappeared even in a frame by frame.

They then talk about how the crowd is not really reacting as these activists think the crowd should act... those comments obviously think that the crowd with babies should acting more enthusiastic. Those activists have indeed picked up the lack of 'vibe' in that crowd. When you look at the crowd full screen, very few look to be enjoying it and fully engaged. Most are neutral and splitting their attention to their baby and the performer.

They also speak crap about the crowd not looking in the right direction, which I find strange and the gaze matches the performers movements. And something about a 'blur' around the pink jacket on the last performer, but there is no difference around that jacket than the other performers on my screen.

The missing shadow on the mat is not convincing either. Considering there is a massive sky light above and flouro lights everywhere. I remember those mats and the texture and finish make them a very different reflective surface to a floor.

There is quite a bit of far reaching in the determination to call it all 'fake'. For what purpose? This is not a 'one off' instance of this kind of event being aimed at children. So, why this event and not a doctored story time video???

The 'fake' narrative makes no sense and is completely unconvincing.

And they all seem to miss the pics that support the video from the URL of the owners that was archived site back from 2 December 2022. And the fact that the owners have not released a statement about it being fake. I think it is now about 48 hours since Dominique Samuels tweeted and published a video on YouTube. The owners would have made that statement by now and demanded the videos be removed.

But.... that has not happened.

They are really digging their heels in arent they?

Determined to say it’s fake which means underneath it all, they don’t agree with this act

I actually saw a person on twitter use almost the exact argument that the poster did on here. Even the 'if it was real, of course I would be appalled' approach.

There is not just one video either. I posted another one down thread.

And this is literally the home page of their website.

I don't even know why I'm engaging with this desperate stuff. But yes, it does show that even the furries think this looks dodgy as hell.

Here's the full video seeing as you're doubting the photo:

twitter.com/martindaubney/status/1631217860277092356?s=46&t=XDSCRgRuCX2hPhngiZxtgA

Mic Wright posts claim that the video is fake.

Pushback by (oddly enough) Ally Fogg with inevitable tropes invoking Mary Whitehouse

FWIW I think the videos are genuine, albeit edited to look as seedy as possible, also think it's indistinguishable from what you'd see at many circuses, not remotely obscene, & if mums want take their babies then these screaming Mary Whitehouses should mind their own business.

twitter.com/AllyFogg/status/1631628108120961024?

leads Wright to adopt the 'even if it did happen NBD' as described above but actually influences him to delete the original tweet (in combination with informed commentary about why it's not a fake).

Fogg ends with this (which is interesting) that seems not to have incited a pile-on for less than full-throated support of every action.

<ahem>speaking as a parent</ahem>
On that video I sent you, I'd probably feel uncomfortable presenting a young child with the performer doing handstands in the g-string but whatever. With the other two acts shown I have literally no idea what the problem is supposed to be.

twitter.com/AllyFogg/status/1631631333104529408?

(Removed screenshots as they don't add much and MN is tricky enough to load anyway.)

"It's just a bit of fun"

metro.co.uk/video/alison-hammond-dermot-oleary-defend-drag-queens-attending-baby-raves-2889847/?ito=video.mweb.share.top.link

Yes. This is indefensible even by their low standards of appropriate behaviour in front of children but all they have is conspiracy and denial. Why they simply cannot say "not in our name" and condemn the mostly straight women organisers and attendees? They cannot condemn because they are or want to be transgressors of boundaries.

Christ, I'm still stuck by how absolute rubbish that is. The bloke in the harness just looks like he's stuck and can't get out. Bending his legs this way and that.

It's David Brent levels of cringe.