KJK v the Police this Friday

[Birdsweepsin]

Kellie is still getting harassed by TRAs it seems. Come and support if you can at Trowbridge Police Station, midday on 24th Feb.

She asked for carrots this afternoon to help pay her legal fees and she is close to 5 and a half already, more than the 3 she needed urgently. What a woman.

1,245 now.

KJK is now about to speak.

Pronouns!!

The dinosaurs are awesome.

"Indicative of a police force that has lost sight of what we face as women as we walk through this world."

Section 5 public order offence

I NEVER LOSE

So the offence is simply a public disorder offence - any more details?

It looks like misgendering

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/5

5 Harassment, alarm or distress.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a)uses threatening [F1or abusive] words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening [F1or abusive],

within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.

(2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the other person is also inside that or another dwelling.

(3)It is a defence for the accused to prove—

(a)that he had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress, or

(b)that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or

(c)that his conduct was reasonable.

(4)F2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(5)F2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(6)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

5 Harassment, alarm or distress.

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a)uses threatening [F1or abusive] words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b)displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening [F1or abusive],

within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress thereby.
(2)An offence under this section may be committed in a public or a private place, except that no offence is committed where the words or behaviour are used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation is displayed, by a person inside a dwelling and the other person is also inside that or another dwelling.

(3)It is a defence for the accused to prove—

(a)that he had no reason to believe that there was any person within hearing or sight who was likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress, or

(b)that he was inside a dwelling and had no reason to believe that the words or behaviour used, or the writing, sign or other visible representation displayed, would be heard or seen by a person outside that or any other dwelling, or

(c)that his conduct was reasonable.

(4)F2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(5)F2. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

(6)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.

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Be ironic if they'd have to misgender KJK to charge her for that. The law is all 'he'.

Take heart, for Mrs Pankhurst has been clapped in irons! (Again.)

They said it was stirring up hatred on the grounds of homophobia originally.

Level 3 £1,000

www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/explanatory-material/magistrates-court/item/fines-and-financial-orders/approach-to-the-assessment-of-fines-2/9-maximum-fines/

Id like to see this one go to court.
Have her to swear on the bible to tell the full and honest truth. That should be the only defence needed.

Brilliant thank you for the live stream. There were a lot of women supporting Posie today.

I to would like to see this go to court

BEST song ever made for a musical.

Unable to follow this as I'm dipping in and out of work - but - all this was about .... misgendering? THAT's falling under the banner of 'harassment, alarm or distress - prompting an interview with threat of arrest - did I understand that correctly?

Don't think it's that bit EndlessTea and Arabella. Keep scrolling down, there's a bit labelled Section 3a) that talks about "stirring up hatred" which I quoted from up thread.

Do we know who the complainant is?

CPS considering if there's a case to answer. (Again.)

Posie cheerfully referring to stating her case in court. And she would, she would would do it with absolute clarity and no mucking about. That would make for very interesting stories in the national press.

Bob Geldof will be getting a bit jumpy round about now.

So, the CPS is 'still' considering if there is a case.

They must know that this is bonkers and how this is going to play out. I am surprised though by just how the trans community thinks this will help them. I really question that thinking.

Have you met them? Not the sharpest tools in the box. They like shouting at babies.