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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

KJK v the Police this Friday

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Birdsweepsin · 20/02/2023 17:30

Kellie is still getting harassed by TRAs it seems. Come and support if you can at Trowbridge Police Station, midday on 24th Feb.

She asked for carrots this afternoon to help pay her legal fees and she is close to 5 and a half already, more than the 3 she needed urgently. What a woman.

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Felix125 · 27/02/2023 12:23

So - has a complaint been made against them?

jeffgoldblum · 27/02/2023 12:24

🥱, why bother!

EndlessTea · 27/02/2023 12:27

Felix125 · 27/02/2023 12:22

The proof is vial their statement at court. They also can give a victims personal statement as to how the incident has effected them.

So how do you prove that a ‘victim’ statement about their own feelings is a lie then, to the point it could be used as proof their complaint was vexatious?

”my heart was racing, I had bad dreams that night, I felt put off my food for three days” etc. How do you prove that’s a bunch of lies, put together in order to use the law to harass someone?

Datun · 27/02/2023 12:29

Datun

The title of this thread is:

KJK v the Police this Friday

Sigh. Indeed it is. But the issue, which you been told a thousand times, is women being persecuted.

Even yesterday, the police refused to take an illegal megaphone off transactivists who were using it to intimidate and drown out women speaking at Hyde Park. Refused, on the grounds of not wanting to provoke violence!

Complicit in the intimidation and bullying of women, because they're what? scared of transactivists??

You couldn't make it up.

And there's Posie, getting threatened almost daily, not only by frightening and violent men, but by the police, too and none of it bloody well stops her.

EndlessTea · 27/02/2023 12:30

Felix125 · 27/02/2023 12:22

The proof is vial their statement at court. They also can give a victims personal statement as to how the incident has effected them.

Yes, and how do you prove this is a bunch of lies?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 12:31

It's always been the case that no one is allowed megaphones there, hasn't it? How surprising that an exception was made in this particular case 🙄

nilsmousehammer · 27/02/2023 12:38

Datun · 27/02/2023 12:29

Datun

The title of this thread is:

KJK v the Police this Friday

Sigh. Indeed it is. But the issue, which you been told a thousand times, is women being persecuted.

Even yesterday, the police refused to take an illegal megaphone off transactivists who were using it to intimidate and drown out women speaking at Hyde Park. Refused, on the grounds of not wanting to provoke violence!

Complicit in the intimidation and bullying of women, because they're what? scared of transactivists??

You couldn't make it up.

And there's Posie, getting threatened almost daily, not only by frightening and violent men, but by the police, too and none of it bloody well stops her.

Quite.

We'll let these men break the law and crack on intimidating, bullying, harassing, jumping up and down on other people's rights without conscience..... because we're scared they'll kick off if we say no to them.

And there, FWR, is the whole of the problem in a nutshell.

Police accountability urgently needed. And some balls. Because ffs.

jeffgoldblum · 27/02/2023 12:39

Apparently the police do know who are men then !
How convenient when it comes to double standards!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 12:39

We'll let these men break the law and crack on intimidating, bullying, harassing, jumping up and down on other people's rights without conscience..... because we're scared they'll kick off if we say no to them.

And there, FWR, is the whole of the problem in a nutshell.

Police accountability urgently needed. And some balls. Because ffs.

This.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 12:44

Is it any surprise that many women feel they have to stay silent about their own feelings and rights?

Targeted by TRAs both implicitly posing a threat to the police, as many of them at these events are thuggish men, while also running to teacher with preposterous accusations of how they've been upset by our mean words, that even those these people hate them ("ACAB" is also frequently in their repertoire) the police will fall over themselves to take more seriously than their actual threats of violence towards women.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 12:44

The police are letting women down badly, on all possible fronts.

WickedSerious · 27/02/2023 12:47

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 12:44

The police are letting women down badly, on all possible fronts.

Yep,nothing new there.

IcakethereforeIam · 27/02/2023 12:50

When it comes down to who to believe, when there's conflicting and unproveable incidents, from hurty feels to rape, why do the police and the cps always seem to believe the bloke?

SinnerBoy · 27/02/2023 12:51

I wonder if there's any legal route to complain about the timidity and inaction of the Police, at this event? Allowing threatening behaviour is surely Misfeasance in a Public Office?

Just look at the cop in Manchester last year, who threatened to arrest that woman trying to hang a Suffragette ribbon on the statue, after she was assaulted by a group of men.

Cowardly bag of tossers.

nilsmousehammer · 27/02/2023 12:52

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 12:44

The police are letting women down badly, on all possible fronts.

Yes.

I was absolutely horrified on Friday to hear women talk at the rally for Posie about how they have complained to the police about racial abuse (evidenced) and homophobically motivated assault, and the police did nothing.

While they rush about like the keystone cops if it is a T political activist (who may or may not be T) who wishes them to act against a woman.

Inequality under the law. Institutional misogyny. And it's not a hate crime bill, it's a police political personal agenda and bias enforcement tool. Wtf is the accountability? The baroness needs to be on that one.

Boiledbeetle · 27/02/2023 12:52

Felix125 · 27/02/2023 11:24

Boiledbeetle

My point is in response to a post a couple of posts above this one

Its about what the post is about

OK. As long as i didn't miss a cheesy joke in there!

yourhairiswinterfire · 27/02/2023 12:56

Felix125 · 27/02/2023 12:23

So - has a complaint been made against them?

Yes, the 'decapitate terfs' sign that Scottish politicians posed in front of was reported to the police. At the same time, a TRA, (whose real name was discovered very quickly by Twitter users) who threatened to shoot the MP Rosie Duffield, stab JK Rowling and encouraged people to drive a car in to a crowd of women attending a Standing For Women event was also reported to the police. Haven't heard any updates since. I doubt we will.

The double standards pisses us off. I have friends who have reported rape and death threats they've received online from TRAs, and the police response was for the women to just come off social media Hmm

But then people like Harry Miller or KJK say something that hurts a trans persons feelings, and the police are straight to their place of work or summoning them for ''voluntary'' interviews.

Can you blame us for being pissed off? The police are telling us loud and clear that they're fine with death threats and racist abuse against women if it's the 'right' type of person dishing it out.

Fallingirl · 27/02/2023 12:57

So much easier for police to investigate against a named individual, after all, everyone knows KJKs name, than having to get proactive and find someone threatening e.g. AJA, themselves.

IcakethereforeIam · 27/02/2023 12:57

And the Police are doing all this performative handwringing about how they need to improve women's trust in them and about institutional misogyny.

Fallingirl · 27/02/2023 12:58

Why should we have to know thenames of the men yesterday to be able to report them?

Fallingirl · 27/02/2023 12:58

KJK is bloody awesome in the face if police persecution.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 12:59

And the Police are doing all this performative handwringing about how they need to improve women's trust in them and about institutional misogyny.

Yes. What complete BS.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 12:59

KJK is very brave.

Fallingirl · 27/02/2023 13:00

The public order act ought to be able to deal with crowds of unnamed men intimidating women, without us having to know the names of individuals.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/02/2023 13:01

The public order act ought to be able to deal with crowds of unnamed men intimidating women, without us having to know the names of individuals.

This.

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