Are you a closet Gender Critical?

[SilentRadical]

Only very close relatives know that I’m gender critical. That short list includes my husband and my mother and that’s about the end of it. I live in canada where it practically feels criminal to question transgender advocates.

Is there anyone else here feeling the pressure to stay quiet?

I am because I work in HR for a company who have truly drunk the kool aid, frighteningly so, and I would most likely lose my job if I spoke out. I will be leaving after maternity leave.

I believe this. They’d spin it to be discriminatory behaviour.

Didn't the Maya Forstater case change all that? That GC views are now protected in law?

I was until very recently but the latest nonsense in Scotland (where I am) has done for me. I'm in my 50s and work in a sector that has drunk the Kook-aid wholesale. I have only a few months left on my mortgage and have enough savings to cover it so I'm no longer prepared to be kind. If they want to send me for re-education for stating facts, bring it on.

The tide is well and truly on the turn and the emperor revealed to be naked. I think we all know what will prove to be the right side of history.

No I speak out. But I dont overwhelm. So I choose the data item that is most likely to frighten senior management and mention that periodically in work. The interim CASS review (UK) is helpful for my environment - education.

I also approach providers of information - always politely and in writing (email) to ask about particular anomalies. I always refer to legislation, and compliance with that legislation. If I receive incorrect replies - I reply correcting. Politely always.

I then personally discuss society issues such as sport. Many men have daughters who are good at sport. Who would lose out. Etc etc.

I regard this as ripples in a pond. I keep going - multiple ripples, multiples contacts. To do nothing will let this daftness in and become a norm.

So are you just relying on people like me to speak up, whilst you wring your hands and pretend there is nothing you can do? Shame.

Kook-aid was a Freudian typo but, meh!

Yes. My career would be over if I outed myself as GC.

No, I’m happy for everyone to know what I think about it all. If they don’t like it, tough !

I can certainly see why you might feel this way. It’s completely fair. I’ve only recently become gender critical and many of my friends at least as far as I am aware are the opposite. Well at least they became friends with me when I was very much on the be kind horse. So I guess it feels like they might stop talking to me or think me a hypocrite if I suddenly changed my mind especially since it is such a divisive topic. 😔

I got 11 people, men and women to sign this petition . Not one person was rude about it

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4668426-petition-update-the-equality-act-to-make-clear-the-characteristic-sex-is-biological-sex?page=1

there’s a lot more GC people out there than you might think because they are all keeping quiet.

I feel your pain - I’m in Canada too.

I’ve already lost a good friend due to expressing concerns regarding the lack of debate around these issues. This has then led to also being ostracized by others in the same social circle.

Treading carefully now…

I’m less gender critical and more gender disinterested. Why do I need to know what “gender” you feel you are? Certainly I don’t need to know at work and don’t think it should have any bearing on sex based rights or access to spaces that are for the opposite sex only.

It's not something I talk about with anyone other than partner. But I don't have pronouns on my signature at work and I take note of others that don't, usually colleagues across the country that I'll never meet but I always wonder if it's for the same reasons.

I'm in a similar position. Only my family know my position, I've tried to gently share some of my thoughts with friends and they've quickly demonstrated that they aren't able to consider any questioning view as anything other than transphobic.

This is exactly how I feel too. I honestly neither mind nor care if someone wants to to become a man/woman but I feel as a woman we are in danger of losing what we have all fought so hard for over the years. We are still fighting and now our voices are being quietened

Yes. I work closely with young people who can't/won't access mainstream education. 30-40% of these children describe themselves as trans or non-binary. Oddly, it doesn't come up as an issue too much at work as we just treat each child as the beautiful person they are. Their chosen gender is mainly irrelevant to us, but it's heartbreaking (and probably inevitable in this weird climate) to see so many of them with complicated mental health histories, trauma and disabilities choose this path.

No. I’ve long since stopped giving any fucks.

This is me too 😆 I'm very openly GC. Not had anyone have an issue with it yet, I think the vast majority are GC, it's just taken them a while to realise it 😄

No I'm out and proud, but I am lucky in this respect at least, that I am not working so I don't have a job to lose. If I was still working, I would have to be very circumspect who I discussed my GC views with. I've got nothing to lose now, and no more fucks to give.

I wish there were more canadian social media resources that were gender critical. Us canadian women need a platform to meet and share our concerns.

I agree that there are far more gender critical people out there than some think. Would say GC probably in the significant majority if the truth is known.
But just as this thread is proving, many of us are having to keep opinions to ourself for fear for repercussions. I am openly GC amongst friends and family, but have to tread a bit more carefully at work.

My fundamental world view has always been pro-women and thus in today's brave new world - GC.
I'm not hiding my views but I will express them with tact and sensitivity.
I have some friends who are 'be kind' and misdirected on what gender stereotyping really means. But most people I know and work with hold pretty sensible views. I haven't fallen out with anyone yet.

GC with family and friends. Some have really drink the Kool Aid unfortunately. Cautious at work. I fight the good fight largely under the radar.

I’m fairly honest about my opinions to certain people, but I don’t shout them from the rooftops. I do a lot of scroll on by for work. We have a very active LGBT+ network who like to post very one sided blog posts. And invite TRA to speak to the workforce. I’m very very close to saying something. Along the lines of true inclusivity meant accepting that some people (especially women) may place greater emphasis on biological identities than socially constructed ones. But it feels risky, especially as I’d like a promotion.

I’ve also completely run out of patience with people who accept that gender is a social construct and then spend a ton of energy trying to fit into that social construct as a different’sex’

I am openly GC everywhere and speak out about it wherever and whenever I get the chance. I am absolutely out of fucks to give. I work in a school and monitor everything there to make sure no bollocksy shite gets disseminated to the kids.