Question about trans women cycles

[Borris]

I have a genuine question

I have a new ish work colleague who I get on well with and enjoy her company. She's a lesbian. Except that her girlfriend is a trans women. That's fine. I'm happy to refer to her by her chosen name and pronouns.

But what confused me is my friend saying more than once that their cycles had synched up and so they had one week a month when they were both super emotional.

Can this be a thing? Do trans women take different hormones at different times of the month? Genuine question, not being goady

Obviously only asking out of sheer nosiness. The first time she mentioned their cycles I didn't know that the partner was a trans woman and so now feel it's too late to ask!

That sounds awful going through menopause but at the same time not going through it. I can’t imagine. 🙄

How do they expect to be taken seriously when they make these ridiculously unscientific statements?

Is it also a place like the Suez Canal? I hope it's that, 'wot I did on my holibobs!'

That made me laugh 😂

But still don't know what they meant 😂😂

I attended a birthing class led by a transwoman

Bloody Hell @MeanCanadianLady. That takes pervy role-playing to a whole new level.

Trans people are being treated in the same way gay people were treated in decades gone by.

At the end of the day, they are people and deserve as much respect as the next person.

I have several trans friends and they are some of the kindest and most supportive people I know.

They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind.

Did you copy and paste that?

No body is being unkind. TW can't have periods. They might want them. But they can't have them.

It's not unkind to say that.

They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind.

I choose to be kind to women and girls.

And again as you spear to have missed some posts

I have no children and so am unable to answer your question from an actual real life perspective.

But I would think if I did have children my son would, by the time he decided he was a transwoman, if I'd have done my job as a parent well enough, understand no matter how much he wished it was the case he could never actually be a woman.

I'd support my hypothetical son as my child, the child of mine they had always been. I'd still refer to them by the nickname I'd no doubt have given them at some point. I'd also respect his desire to go by a more female name if he wished. I'd support him to live his best life.

I'd hope he wouldn't feel so bad about his existing and only body that he felt the need to cut bits off, add bits and take medication not designed for him that could cause who knows what untold issues in the future.

If he did decide that was what he wanted to do then I'd still love him, I would still support him. I'd sit by his bedside waiting for him to come round, after mutilating his wonderful body that had nothing wrong with it.

But no I wouldn't use she. And i wouldn't have a daughter. I'd use their name, or they when talking about them, and refer to my child rather than my son or my daughter. I'd use their new chosen name, family nicknames etc when talking to them.

And the reason? whilst anyone is entitled to believe anything they want, I'm entitled to believe there are only two sexes, you can't change and my hypothetical male child will always be my male child and I would never allow my own child to believe such a terrible lie as the one which would have him believe he could be a woman.

This is being kind

then when trans women do talk about things affecting other women

I've no interest in talking to any male about periods. "Other women" 🙄 I've said before how naive I think you are so no need to labour the point, but I know you are genuinely well meaning. I hope no one takes advantage.

At the end of the day, they are people and deserve as much respect as the next person.

So, do you believe that women and girls are not people, then?

Pretending to be in pain when talking to someone who is actually in pain is the exact opposite of solidarity. It’s the exact opposite of empathy. I can’t believe this even needs saying. It’s narcissism and, yes, oneupmanship.

And you would easily recognise this if it wasn’t specifically female pain being mocked and dismissed in this way. If you were punched in the balls you wouldn’t appreciate a woman saying “I know exactly how you feel, it happened to me last week.”

This.

I mean they don’t mind enlightening us on everything else. I attended a birthing class led by a transwoman. I made an excuse halfway through to leave. Family emergency! Totally unavoidable. 😩🤷🏻‍♀️ Later got an email that it was canceled. I think that a lot of the ladies there were not pleased.

I can imagine. I would not be very happy with that either.

And just for the record, I've never perceived these period claims as "solidarity" with women. I see them as (one or more of):

a) An attempt to convince themselves they are women in every way

b) trolling women as an attempt to dismiss their issues or their pain

c) an attempt to ingratiate themselves with specific women and girls for whatever purpose

d) a sexual fetish based on autogynephilia

e) an attempt to disconnect periods from having a female body, it's just an experience anyone can have because sex is a spectrum and oestrogen can turn males fully into women.

Pretending to be in pain when talking to someone who is actually in pain is the exact opposite of solidarity. It’s the exact opposite of empathy. I can’t believe this even needs saying. It’s narcissism and, yes, oneupmanship.

I had an ex who did this. No matter how ill I was, he was worse. Even the day my manager ordered me into the car and drove me home (where I barely left my bed for 3 days) the ex was more sick than me. When though he was phoning me from his kitchen whilst 'cooking' and I could hardly lift my head from the pillow.
If I had a migraine he had one too, usually worse.
Be could never just empathise and tell me to feel better soon. He always had to co-opt my pain.

Was that empathy? No it was abuse actually.

I used to care if I was called transphobic but the word just got so overused. Then it simply became synonymous with disagreement on trans issues and then it became nothing to me. Maybe try a 24 hour exercise where you try to make your point without the word. Maybe someone might listen to you. Maybe you’d get the same results. Or maybe won’t cause as many liberals to peak and join the ranks of gender criticals. lol The possibilities are endless!

@Itismeghan I'm sure your friends are lovely (not being sarcastic). Genuine question, do any of them believe they have periods or have/will go through the menopause? Apologies, I'm aware these are personal questions so if you don't know I obviously don't expect you to embarrass yourself or them by asking.

Tbh, if they're truly nice I doubt they'd claim any such thing as its biologically impossible. Although they may have cyclical wossnames caused by their medication.

All the tw I'm aware of who make these claims seem to be the 'look at me, see how I'm womaning' type. But as they're putting themselves out there in tiktok, YouTube and the like that's hardly surprising. It's a kind of self selecting sample and not really guaranteed to be representative of tw as a whole.

I had an argument on Twitter with aomeone who insisted that TW could have babies.
The really worrying thing was that she was a gynaecologist.
I had to block her in the end.

Did she explain how exactly this miracle would work or did she flounce before the actual engage brain bit?

I remember being particularly horrified by this article when it came out 7/8 years ago:

I can’t have babies. And no one in the reproductive justice movement is talking about this.
It wasn’t until I watched Micha Cardenass^ perform about her pregnancy as a trans womann^ that I had a major breakthrough moment. It was – and still is – possible to become pregnant again.

What this means is that trans women who stop taking HRT for a few months can reverse sterilization and become pregnant with viable sperm.

In the audience, as Micha stood before her artwork and moving telescope images of her viable sperm, I cried whole-heartedly. She had been on HRT for many years and still was able to become pregnant.

everydayfeminism.com/2015/11/trans-women-reproductive-justice/

This is conceptualising fathering a child via a female partner or female surrogate (who is unspoken of, as she isn't important in any way) as an MTF "pregnancy". It's the same kind of thing as the "trans period".

I don't understand this. How can TW become pregnant?

Transwomens cycles?

Do they all have Choppers?

No, she just insisted that as transwomen were women, they could become pregnant. She chastised me for being "anti- trans".

This ^

And that’s not because the nasty Mummies are ‘gatekeeping’ periods and refusing to share them with the poor, marginalised transwomen…

… It’s because transwomen are men and Mother Nature is a terf 🤷‍♀️

Mother Nature... The OG Terf....