Question about trans women cycles

[Borris]

I have a genuine question

I have a new ish work colleague who I get on well with and enjoy her company. She's a lesbian. Except that her girlfriend is a trans women. That's fine. I'm happy to refer to her by her chosen name and pronouns.

But what confused me is my friend saying more than once that their cycles had synched up and so they had one week a month when they were both super emotional.

Can this be a thing? Do trans women take different hormones at different times of the month? Genuine question, not being goady

Obviously only asking out of sheer nosiness. The first time she mentioned their cycles I didn't know that the partner was a trans woman and so now feel it's too late to ask!

Itismeghan · Yesterday 22:05

Trans people are being treated in the same way gay people were treated in decades gone by.

That is not true. In the UK and Ireland gay men who had sex were criminals and could be imprisoned, They had no right to marriage or civil partnership, so lost any rights of inheritance. Many other horrors. Trans people can marry anyone, live openly as they choose. Quite right too.

At the end of the day, they are people and deserve as much respect as the next person.

Absolutely. They deserve not just respect but love - that does not mean their actions are above criticism, see for example the extreme cruelty being described in this thread.

I have several trans friends and they are some of the kindest and most supportive people I know.

Good, I'm glad for you all.

They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay,

'They' and 'trans' are both words with such variable definitions that that simplistic six letter statement cannot be wholly true. Trans is not an innate sexual orientation, and often seems to be an expression of deep mental pain and self hatred (in young women), or of misogyny, or of a need for sexual stimulation. Choice is involved.

but you can choose to be kind.

Of course. Sometimes the kindest thing is to call out bad behavior.

Maybe you could expand on what you mean by this? Because we see this a lot but no one can seem to explain just either how being homosexual or bisexual is like being transgender.

And the argument ‘because they face so much push back on them wanting to be who they want to be’ is not accurate.

Same sex attracted people did not claim to be anything they were not. And sexual attraction is an observable fact.

No gay man ever claimed they had a life where they were the same as women. No gay man claims to have menstruation.

The comparison seems quite flawed. It is a fallacy. It is saying the two situations are similar to legitimise claims from males that they are females when this is untrue. They are males who declare a transgender identity but they are not female people.

Can you explain why you have compared these two situations?

Yes. I cannot conceive a male showing ‘solidarity’ like this? Who thinks showing solidarity means copying conditions and therefore making a mockery of the other persons situation.

It simply doesn’t stand up to scrutiny!

Oh wow. The artist complains that: "Existing literature on transgender pregnancy and family planning, such as in lesbian parenting books, focuses almost exclusively on transgender men. Books such as Trans Bodies, Trans Selves, focus almost entirely on trans men, while making on the most brief reference to the fact that trans women can bank their sperm. This reproduces a transmisogynist dynamic where trans men are highly valued by queer communities and transgender women’s concerns and existences are erased."
michacardenas.sites.ucsc.edu/pregnancy/

Transwomen are erased by queer communities and not listened too, eh?

(also, what a SHAME that most books about pregnancy focus on female bodies. Unfair!)

“At the end of the day, they are people and deserve as much respect as the next person.”

How are people claiming they have period pain when they are male showing respect? Or are you saying that women should show respect when none is offerred or expected in return?

Seems rather unequal. And almost abusive to tell women to accept such disrespect where a male is very publicly imitating female medical conditions for either attention or to have their claim of womanhood validated (which is dishonest).

”I have several trans friends and they are some of the kindest and most supportive people I know.”

And are your friends telling you that they are women just like other women? Or are they acknowledging they are males who live their perception of being female but are transwomen. Not women, but transwomen.

Because, I would question ‘kindest and most supportive’ if they have told you that they are women just like other women. Women have nothing in common with your friends that they don’t have in common with other male people who describe themselves as ‘men’.

If you tried to have a objective discussion with them about their claims to womanhood, do they discuss it openly and honestly or get abusive and call you transphobic?

I don’t doubt there are very kind and very supportive transitioned males out there. We know they exist. Some posters have these friends they tell us about. They are usually males who are fully cognisant of their lives and their choices.

“They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind.”

They may have gender dysphoria, meaning that they have ‘no choice’ if you want to view it that way. We know of people who chose NOT to transition and live with their condition and seem to be just as happy because they have plenty of support.

They could be some of the males giving in to their compulsions for fetish - that is a choice. And frankly a male appropriating periods is a fetish. It is not real. They may be a transmaxxer and this is a choice when you read about them. They are still trans people because they have said they are.

We see ‘people living their true life’ so often . It really is a falsehood. It is not an authentic life, because they claim to be something they are not if they claim they have changed sex. They are only living their true life if they are living as a transitioned male or female while still acknowledging their sex and not demanding people accept them as being the other sex.

What is kind about demanding people act a lie and say they believe that those people have changed sex?

Nah. Pleas for kindness on this topic, usually involve accepting falsehoods as truth. This is not ‘kind’ or tolerant.

But accepting that it is not kind or tolerant means taking a mature approach and understanding that you cannot always be kind and tolerant. And that is ok.

Nature sux!

The MTFs claiming to be able to become "pregnant" in the article I posted are referring to making a (invisible) woman pregnant with their sperm. It's kind of like when couples tweely say "we are pregnant" when they mean they are having a baby together but taken to a whole new level of female erasure.

"They didn’t choose to be trans, just as gay people don’t choose to be gay, but you can choose to be kind."

Do transwomen consider being kind to other women? Natural born women are told to be kind all the time to transwomen, but is there any kindness flowing in the other direction?

Wow @Ereshkigalangcleg , so they're actually absorbing their pregnant partner entirely into their sense of self.

That's a really interesting bit of psychological pathology, if only psychologists hadn't decided it's all true. Or if not entirely true, beyond the bounds of what they can mention.