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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Question about trans women cycles

234 replies

Borris · 23/01/2023 20:34

I have a genuine question

I have a new ish work colleague who I get on well with and enjoy her company. She's a lesbian. Except that her girlfriend is a trans women. That's fine. I'm happy to refer to her by her chosen name and pronouns.

But what confused me is my friend saying more than once that their cycles had synched up and so they had one week a month when they were both super emotional.

Can this be a thing? Do trans women take different hormones at different times of the month? Genuine question, not being goady

Obviously only asking out of sheer nosiness. The first time she mentioned their cycles I didn't know that the partner was a trans woman and so now feel it's too late to ask!

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:45

I think they're trying to express solidarity

Not at all.
They're appropriating an experience which causes countless women a lot of pain and distress, just for their own entertainment. What makes it worse is that a great many women seem to be colluding with men who do this. It needs to be called out. Women's and girls' right are being eroded in the name of this outrageous bullshit.

(I see my previous comment was deleted FFS)

Helleofabore · 24/01/2023 16:47

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 16:29

I've seen it. Unadulterated mockery and very offensive.

It certainly is very offensive.

I wonder though what person ever, ever thought it was appropriate to tell these males that they could have periods? Either kindly or making a mockery of them?

Why are Endocrinologists giving hormones in monthly cycles and even hinting it is a ‘monthly cycle’?

StarGoddess · 24/01/2023 16:47

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 16:27

trying to express solidarity

I your friend broke their leg, would you get crutches and start hobbling around and looking for sympathy to 'express solidarity'?

It is expressing derision and hatred.

Exactly this.

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:48

Oblomov22 · 24/01/2023 16:45

She's talking nonsense. How can a trans mtf have a cycle. They can't. They don't have a menstrual cycle. I would have to correct her, ask her what she means.

It's depressing that the OP's work colleague is buying into her boyfriend's nonsense, to the extent that she is willing to share the details in the workplace.

OP perhaps needs to point out to her colleague that she is dating a man and could get pregnant, and is not exclusively a lesbian, either.

Oblomov22 · 24/01/2023 16:49

I agree with Beach. It needs calling it. It is rubbish and should be questioned.

Oblomov22 · 24/01/2023 16:50

Sorry. Calling out.
To not question such rubbish feels almost complicit.

Palmfrond · 24/01/2023 16:52

@Borris Perhaps your colleague’s partner is shedding the lining of their testicles on a monthly basis?

Sounds awful. 💐

StarGoddess · 24/01/2023 16:52

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:48

It's depressing that the OP's work colleague is buying into her boyfriend's nonsense, to the extent that she is willing to share the details in the workplace.

OP perhaps needs to point out to her colleague that she is dating a man and could get pregnant, and is not exclusively a lesbian, either.

It’s entirely possible she is a lesbian and is torturing herself to try to please them…

Helleofabore · 24/01/2023 16:55

”Imagine feeling that you’re a woman trapped in a man’s body. Would you deem yourself mentally ill and seek therapy, or would you live as your true self?”

How is it helpful to any person to perpetuate that they are in the wrong body? And then how it is helpful to tell anyone their perception of them living as the opposite sex is actually then being their ‘true self’?

How can people do that to others?

No! They are people who are living their perception of how the other sex lives. They are only being their ‘true self’ of being that person living as their perception of the opposite sex. They are not ‘truly’ living as the opposite sex.

Framing that as kind is really harmful. It is the opposite.

And any male who believes they are having periods is being harmed. And again, who does this? And who does it benefit?

StarGoddess · 24/01/2023 16:57

Palmfrond · 24/01/2023 16:52

@Borris Perhaps your colleague’s partner is shedding the lining of their testicles on a monthly basis?

Sounds awful. 💐

omg this comment killed me! 😂

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 17:10

I'm a slim healthy woman trapped in an unaccountably portly body and my right knee aches. I have no choice but to live in it.

MichelleScarn · 24/01/2023 17:19

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:48

It's depressing that the OP's work colleague is buying into her boyfriend's nonsense, to the extent that she is willing to share the details in the workplace.

OP perhaps needs to point out to her colleague that she is dating a man and could get pregnant, and is not exclusively a lesbian, either.

Wonder if the colleague and her dp then have lovely, girly chats at home about the lovely, girls period sharing chats the colleague has at work?.....

Whichwhatnow · 24/01/2023 17:20

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:33

Yet you refer to him as "she".

I don't have an issue with people identifying however they want so long as their choices don't impact negatively on other people.

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 17:21

btw I thought that it was no longer the done thing to use that 'trapped in the wrong body' metaphor or excuse or whatever it was? Have the rules changed back again?

Florissant · 24/01/2023 17:32

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 17:21

btw I thought that it was no longer the done thing to use that 'trapped in the wrong body' metaphor or excuse or whatever it was? Have the rules changed back again?

The rules identify differently today.

DeanVolecapeAKAelderberry · 24/01/2023 17:35

arf

HootyMcboob76 · 24/01/2023 18:09

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:19

BUT - what causes that shooting pain in the rectum? I remember it - so horrible

Progesterone affects smooth muscles.

Proctalgia fugax.
Very common in males and females.

Various causes, usually no concern.

ZeldaFighter · 24/01/2023 18:15

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 16:48

It's depressing that the OP's work colleague is buying into her boyfriend's nonsense, to the extent that she is willing to share the details in the workplace.

OP perhaps needs to point out to her colleague that she is dating a man and could get pregnant, and is not exclusively a lesbian, either.

I imagine OP would then be able to have a lovely chat with HR about how her values don't respect her workplace's inclusive values. And to leave. But don't complain about being forced to listen to stuff that offends your GC beliefs because that's transphobic and not inclusive.

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 18:15

StarGoddess · 24/01/2023 16:52

It’s entirely possible she is a lesbian and is torturing herself to try to please them…

Yes, that is a possibility. Some transwomen claim they're also lesbians (how, when they're men?) so they want to date actual lesbians.

I agree that it does sound as though the OP's colleague is tying herself up in knots, trying to accommodate this man's nonsense.

TheShellBeach · 24/01/2023 18:16

ZeldaFighter · 24/01/2023 18:15

I imagine OP would then be able to have a lovely chat with HR about how her values don't respect her workplace's inclusive values. And to leave. But don't complain about being forced to listen to stuff that offends your GC beliefs because that's transphobic and not inclusive.

I know. When is this wankery going to end?

HootyMcboob76 · 24/01/2023 18:39

Did any of us think that in 2023 we would be having to clarify to anyone, let alone other women, that men do not:

Have cervixes
Menstruate
Have PMS / PMT
Have cramping
Have monthly mood swings / crying jags
Have any kind of hormonal cycle
Bleed from any orifice on a monthly basis

I sometimes can't believe we've gotten to this point.
This is not a go at you OP, I'm just talking in general.

And yet there are SWATHES of people, including young women, who are falling for this all over YouTube and Tiktok.

How has the wool been pulled so thoroughly over people's eyes?
MEN.
Saying they have periods.

Dear Lord.

I had an argument with someone on YouTube today because she insisted that a man taking oestrogen would have his male voice turned into a female one (as we all know it doesn't work that way - only cross sex testosterone can lower a female voice, cross sex oestrogen has no effect on a male voice already changed by puberty).
She said "why do transwomen all have higher voices then? Evidence shows you are wrong!"

Delusion and handmaidening at it's best.

DietCock · 24/01/2023 18:49

Justasec321 · 24/01/2023 16:10

@DietCock I used to get all of that too. Awful. I remember lying on the floor of the loo in school unable to move. I could not leave the loo due to diarrhea, and vomiting.

It eased off in my 20s but from 13 to late teens early 20s I really suffered.

BUT - what causes that shooting pain in the rectum? I remember it - so horrible.

So far my dds seem to have avoided it thankfully.

@Justasec321 I'm sorry you were similarly afflicted. I never knew that Javelin Arse had a name until I joined MN Grin

My period pain went away after I had children, thank God. I have no idea why, but perhaps a man would be able to enlighten me?

MeanCanadianLady · 24/01/2023 18:55

DietCock · 24/01/2023 18:49

@Justasec321 I'm sorry you were similarly afflicted. I never knew that Javelin Arse had a name until I joined MN Grin

My period pain went away after I had children, thank God. I have no idea why, but perhaps a man would be able to enlighten me?

I mean they don’t mind enlightening us on everything else. I attended a birthing class led by a transwoman. I made an excuse halfway through to leave. Family emergency! Totally unavoidable. 😩🤷🏻‍♀️ Later got an email that it was canceled. I think that a lot of the ladies there were not pleased.

Boiledbeetle · 24/01/2023 19:01

MeanCanadianLady · 24/01/2023 15:17

If you ever struggle to find time I highly recommend the tempdrop! I used it when I was postpartum when my sleep schedule was too chaotic during the early days of new parenthood. It helps a great deal and takes the element of having to remember taking it every morning. Also night nurses swear by it. 😊

Fingers crossed unless i have to restart the bloody 12 month clock again it's no longer something I need to worry my pretty little head about!

MidCenturyChild · 24/01/2023 19:01

This seems like a good time to ask this question. On the reality TV series 'The Bridge', there was a trans woman who said they'd been through the menopause.

I'm still wondering what that could possibly mean!