Alberta MtF transgender wants assisted suicide after sexual reassignment surgery goes sour

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How as a society did we get to such a horiffic place?
“In 2009 I was rushed into having SRS before I was read[y]. Resulting in immediate regret and sterilization.”
www.westernstandard.news/news/alberta-transgender-wants-maid-after-sexual-reassignment-surgery-goes-sour/article_002cfcf0-974b-11ed-bb83-376c9cc7f373.html

Very sad story. Poor man. Good point at the end about how the mainstream media bear responsibility for not exploring the issues years ago.

this is a reason that I'm fine with trans people not having any surgery. It's better not to undergo potentially life-threatening (physically or mentally) if it can be avoided at all.

Shit that is awful. It sounds very scary and painful. Poor guy, I hope he gets some help. The consent procedure for these operations must be tied up tight so hospitals and medical staff can't be sued.

As an aside, I saw an article about how well Canada is doing with doner organs from MAID.

this is indelicate, but what happens if, after a vaginoplasty, they decide that they don't want to do the dilation at all. Will the - is it a wound? - heal and they have fewer problems? or is it a "this must be done whether you want to or not" type of thing?

It is so worrying that people have major surgeries and don't seem to have much in the way of aftercare.

@Brefugee - from what I have read, the neovagina will heal itself and close. Similar to a cut on your finger or any other wound. If you keep poking at it, it won't heal. If you leave it, then it will. Of course, in this instance the goal is not to have it heal. Then you'd get to the point where the body stops trying to heal it and it stays open.

An analogy would be ear piercing. Daily care, cleaning and turning the studs for the first 6 weeks or so, then at some stage the holes stay open.

That's as I understand it, anyway.

Fgs that poor poor man :(

It’s appalling that such clearly vulnerable people are not treated better & the consequences not properly explained

The body abhors a vacuum, as they say in medicine.
The wound will heal, scar tissue will form and close the gap up over time.
They might be left with horrific long term problems like recurrent UTIs, kidney infections, adhesions, and obviously they are infertile, inability to orgasm, and so much more.

As far as I know post op TW have to dilate for the rest of their lives.

It really isn't a vagina despite what they are wish to believe and are led to believe by their surgeons. They often become patients for life due to complications from the surgery.
And yet there are many who continue to extol the virtues of these surgeries to young confused people through channels like YouTube (eg Jammie Dodger, a FTM trans person who almost died and has had horrific complications yet continues to promote this surgery to their young followers).

The surgeries are sold as making them complete but there are MANY who regret them.

I've come across Lois's tweeting in support of Amy Hamm. This is such a shame.

Re. not dilating after vaginoplasty (as no vagina is actually involved 'penis inversion' seems a better descriptor). Don't they still need the cavity to urinate through. It's not self cleaning so won't....gunk accumulate (shed cells, etc.), so in the warmth and damp you'll get bacteria and fungal growth. Tbh I don't understand how it can be viable, even in optimal circumstances. If you have someone who is truly marginalised and vulnerable, how will they have the wherewithal to maintain a neovagina?

Just over 2% of people who had MAID in Canada donated organs. Those organs accounted for 6% of all organ donations in Canada.

Numbers are pretty small.

What does 'MAID' stand for? I get that it's Canada's voluntary euthanasia legislation but I so wish people wouldn't use abbreviations without explaining them.

thanks all. The more i read about vaginoplasty the more i think it is a procedure that needs to be banned. I am deeply sorry for anyone with gender dysphoria, and am not anti-trans, but bloody hell.

It sounds excruciating, and i can imagine that penetrative sex in a neo vagina must feel like (to the one being penetrated) something akin to what the women who have undergone FGM have.

That is so sad-I'm aware of a female to male who also had assisted suicide, as they were just so miserable and felt like an unlovable monster (their words.) The surgery is by no means uncomplicated. Then you read of people having nullification surgery and you wonder what outcomes they will have.

I hope Lois gets the support they need to live a happy life.

@IcakethereforeIam - I once watched a video of a m2f surgery. They re-routed the urethra so it emerged in a different position, a simulacrum of the female.

MAiD is Medical Assistance in Dying.

It includes two pathways - one is physician / nurse practitioner administered and the other is self administered.

What on earth happens if they get to an old age and can't dilate the hole anymore? I can't imagine it would heal nicely and they wouldn't be able to urinate? (I daren't Google this).

and how do you feel about the positive affirmation full steam head model?

If done properly, they are not left with a gaping wound. There are a multitude of sites where people discuss their personal experiences post surgery. Many have complications of some kind (pain etc) but most on the discussion boards are not dealing with open wounds at all post intiial healing. Surgeries have evolved and there are a handful of doctors whose patients have few serious complications. There are quite a few different ways to do the surgery with varying benefits / features and expected complications. Not all types of procedures require frequent dilation after the initial healing period.

Medical Assistance In Dying. It’s the standard term in Canada, would not cause any more confusion over there than “NHS” or “GP” does over here.

There are quite a few different ways to do the surgery with varying benefits / features and expected complications. Not all types of procedures require frequent dilation after the initial healing period.

Well at least there is that. But it all has a bit of a feel as though early trasitioners were guineapigs in a way.

"There are quite a few different ways to do the surgery with varying benefits / features"

Sounds like they are still in the experimental stage if they haven't yet settled on a standard procedure. Are patients offered a choice beween different surgical methods and an explanation of the pros/cons of each? Or do they get whichever the surgeon prefers by default?
Do other major surgeries have multiple different "ways" to choose from, or do the medical oversight bodies define a set best practice procedure that should be followed in all cases?

If everyone doesn't jump,up, accept and support people choosing to transition, they are transphobic, but then it's also everyone's fault for supporting it when it inevitably goes wrong because the person going through major, altering surgery has obviously not looked into or asked what the failure or complication rate is. It seems there should just be a blanket stop on these surgeries until more established data can be gotten

I'm sceptical about this idea of adults (often with AGP) being pressured into surgery. Once they start escalating things can't happen fast enough for them generally.

As I've said before, once trans widows exes begin to detransition, the way things are at the moment I fully expect to see threads here full of lots of women saying how sorry they are for the poor dears.

@TinselAngel - agreed.