Alberta MtF transgender wants assisted suicide after sexual reassignment surgery goes sour

[lechiffre55]

How as a society did we get to such a horiffic place?
“In 2009 I was rushed into having SRS before I was read[y]. Resulting in immediate regret and sterilization.”
www.westernstandard.news/news/alberta-transgender-wants-maid-after-sexual-reassignment-surgery-goes-sour/article_002cfcf0-974b-11ed-bb83-376c9cc7f373.html

An actual vagina has discharge and mucous and smells too. As does a penis. As do all genitals.

If the colon is detached from the digestive track it is not going to produce or smell like faeces. The idea that people will have 'expected' colon leakage and smells is not true. There will likely be some odour and secretions but they are not going to have faeces or the smell of faeces in the colon section when it is disconnected from the digestive track.

As I've said, its TW themselves saying it DOES, who are you to disagree?

Did you read the website I just linked?
"secretes mucus of colonic origin and harbors bacteria of colonic origin, so that mucus emissions can occasionally occur through the vulva and sometimes with a bad smell due to germs present in that mucosa."

There are stories all over the net of TW complaining their neo vaginas smell like faeces after having the colon vaginoplasty.

I didn't say it produced faeces BTW. Nobody said that.

It’s been a million years since a-level biology - but different cells act/secrete different things. You can’t just put a colon where a vagina might be and expect it to secret vaginal juices. The cells know biology even if we’re not supposed to.

@musingsinmidlife
You should contact that website @HootyMcboob76 linked to tell them how wrong they are.
Mucus is a generic term, the mucus produced by a vagina, penis, and colon are not the same mucus. They have different compositions, purposes, and odours.
The smell of feces will be a composition of all the things that combine to make feces. The colon produces a few of those all on it's own, albeit without the food waste. It is quite reasonable to assume that some of the smell elements that combine to make up the smell of feces are present in colon tissue.

You said it would produce smells and leakage that one would expect from a colon. Go out on the street and ask 50 people what smells and leakage do you expect from a colon - faeces, gas, and the smell of faeces is what is going to be mentioned repeatedly. No where on those sites do I see anything about what one expects from the colon coming out of the disconnected recreated colon section used for surgery.

I get everyone on here seems to want to only believe that every post surgery trans person is a vile stinking bleeing mess with gaping wounds and foul smells who is incontinent and unable to have any basic bodily functions but it just makes most of you look like fools. I linked to multiple systematic reviews of post surgical complications and they do not in any way support the views and opinions of posters on this thread.

So your continue ewww yuck, stinky people with gaping holes in their body with uring running everywhere is really immature.

If you are going to argue a position, at least take the time to be at least minimally informed.

Of course it doesn't secrete vaginal juices. It also isn't going to produce fecal matter.

My own vagina hurts reading these stories.

Seriously sad. That said to the OP who linked some studies, the first one seems optimistic about post surgery satisfaction rate, and says the trend of such surgeries will likely grow as it is 'a key part' or something of treating gender dysphoria..

So the medical community just expects an upward trend in demand.

No responsibility.

Once again, NOBOSY said it produced faecal matter. Reading really isn't your strong comprehension is it?
I linked from an actual TW surgery website.
Here's another one from a post op TW
ifunny.co/picture/i-had-bottom-surgery-yesterday-everything-went-great-and-now-JmHcReGa7

The links you provided were not specifically about colon vaginoplasty.

I think we can see who is "minimally informed".

I've had more than one colonoscopy in my life ( camera up the bum )
In order for the doctor to be able to see the patient has to completely flush their bowels of all feces via a chemical process. What's left after the solids flush is water going through an empty digestive system. Water doesn't normally pass all the way through, but the chemical process alters this. Water passing all the way through picks up the new mucus and digestive juices being continually produced by the body. Your bum leaks this fluid that has some of the colour and odour that you would expect. It has a slightly acrid odour that is recognisable as being a part of/connected to feces.

Are you aware that gay men and some heterosexual couples have anal sex - with a digestive tract with food waste?

You linked to a reddit post of someone who just had the surgery the day before. That isn't a surgical complication.

Colovaginoplasties are also done on infants and female babies born with vaginal insufficiencies. There is a fair amount of research on them. Do you really think parents would agree to a surgery for an infant where your child will be forever left with a smelly gaping hole and incontinence?

The procedure when done properly has far fewer complications and higher satisfaction than a penile inversion. And yes, some of the studies do talk about colovaginoplasty.

Are you aware that gay men and some heterosexual couples have anal sex - with a digestive tract with food waste?

What????? How have I got to 50 without ever knowing this.

I must go lie down to recover from this shocking new information.

oh I feel faint, will Someone bring the smelling salts

Are you aware that gay men and some heterosexual couples have anal sex - with a digestive tract with food waste?

Yes and it smells just like everyone else's ass. Are you changing from it doesn't smell of ass to it's fine that it smells of ass?
The second one is down to personal preference and I have no issue with anyone who is fine with that. But I'm not fond of denial of reality.

That is ONE statement from a post op TW out of HUNDREDS I could have picked from.
Honestly, I'm not going to do the research for you, it's out there if you choose to look for it FROM TW TESTIMONIES THEMSELVES, that you keep either denying or ignoring.

BTW, I'm aware my arse probably smells like an arse.

However, my FUCKING VAGINA doesn't.

If yours does, maybe you should get some medical attention.

Actually the person in that photo had the surgery 22 days previously and posted several updates. It’s literally time-stamped.

From what I remember, jazz Jennings had that type of surgery because her penis and testicules were underdeveloped because of puberty blockers. She was concerned about the possible smell.

musingsinmidlife
Colovaginoplasties are also done on infants and female babies born with vaginal insufficiencies.

This is absolute bllcks, is it not? Who is checking if infant babies have vaginal insufficiencies? How do you even check that? No one has examined either of my daughters' actual vaginas. That's madness. It's not happening.

Who on earth do you think is operating on babies to give them vaginas made out of colon tissue? And what would be the purpose on actual babies, for God's sake?

And what kind of person is thinking about baby girls' vaginas anyway?

The wording of the phrase "vaginal insufficiencies" has been lifted straight from a PubMed paper from about 30 years ago by Hitchcock from about 30 years ago, "Colovaginoplasty in infants and children".

First google search to come up.

Out of date, and clearly Google searched to prove some kind of crazy logic.

I get everyone on here seems to want to only believe that every post surgery trans person is a vile stinking bleeing mess with gaping wounds and foul smells who is incontinent and unable to have any basic bodily functions but it just makes most of you look like fools.

stop being so patronising* *@musingsinmidlife nobody here wants to believe anything of the sort, although having actually read the thread and not come here to tell everyone how nasty and mean they are, i see that most people are very sympathetic to the people who have less than great outcomes from their surgery.

It all sounds hugely painful to me. And again, i am perfectly happy for trans people not to have any surgery, if there are so many bad outcomes.

It sounds like it’s a treatment for certain conditions that can already be identified in infants. This study (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11412227/) seems to suggest it’s not recommended due to known complications

The stats seem to suggest the surgery is successful more often than not but there are high complication rates and it’s surely debatable if surgery with potential need for ongoing care throughout life is really a the best solution.

@Brefugee
I'm not saying every SRS results in stinky. I'm saying it has the possibility. Every human is different. To say none result in stinky is as stupid as to say all result in stinky. Each individual will be different. The same as what's best for each individual in their assesment and treatment will differ by person.
My one true gripe is the assertion that the same situation applies to everyone. That one path is the best outcome for everyone. I believe that each individual should be treated as an individual, and the best outcome should be assessed according to their circumstances and needs.

(not sure why you're addressing that to me - I've heard the claim before but i wasn't talking about it, just quoting)

I would hope that each individual is assessed and treated as an individual and all risks and downsides clearly and repeatedly explained.
I am not surprised, reading this thread, that so few trans people opt for surgery.

@Brefugee
my bad in attributing it to you, I missed the bold
apologies

no worries, i get confused all the time (and usually forget to bold anyway)
all good :)

And this is where we end up when medical practictioners, pyschologists and individuals collude in a lie - that humans can change sex.

A very special 21st century medical scandal - this century's version of a lobotomy. It truly is a mad world.