Met Police officer revealed as one of Britain’s worst rapists - Telegraph

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uk.news.yahoo.com/serving-met-police-officer-revealed-111217785.html

Comprehensive article in The Telegraph.

I'm going to have another go @Felix125 because it really really worries me that an (according to you) serving officer is actually this dense.

Each report should have been investigated - and should be investigated
We can't just assume after each report.

Once again. I'm not asking you to assume. I am not asking for a witch hunt. I want you to do some joined up thinking for the different scenarios.

When there are multiple reports against an individual - look at them. Investigate them. Question everything including WHO is doing the reporting, HOW MANY reports there are. Are you turning up nothing but the individual has more reports against them?? WHY MIGHT THAT BE

it is really not rocket science. The fact that you have to have this repeatedly pointed out and you refuse to engage with it and an inability to even think about it shows me you were given the wrong career advice at some point in the past.

Honestly brefugee it's not you.
The police are more than capable of "joined up thinking" and intelligence gathering pre any crime on a whole range of things like burglaries, drugs, terrorism, anti social behaviour....

There just seems to be this huge blind spot about sexual violence against women. Magnified when the offender is "one of their own".

The only term is "institutional misogyny" really.

Notice how the language is always around "letting the force down", nothing about letting the women and community he was meant to protect down.
It's always about how this reflects badly on the police force, and never about the immeasurably worse effect it has on the victims that they will have to deal with for the rest of their lives.
If only he didn't make us look bad.

I mean, the police could do some pretty basic things like flag any officers with a suspicion of DV to the professional standards unit of their home force and put a note on their file which could transfer with them if they moved forces. Then multiple reports would be easier to identify.

Always useful for @Felix125 to remind us that the police will always stick up for each other, whatever the circumstances.

"The previous year he had been a suspect in a criminal investigation into malicious communications and burglary involving a former partner. Carrick had refused to accept that the relationship was over. In 2002 he was still on probation when he was accused of harassment and assault against a former partner but he was not arrested and no further action was taken."

This happened BEFORE he joined the police! Fucking hell.

I've had a stalker like this, an ex-partner; it had a massive effect on me

Can any women here say what it is like to work in the police? Is it majority male? Can you have influence as a female?

I worked in the police a long time ago. Yes you can have influence as a female. Most police officers I worked with were a good laugh and I really enjoyed my time there.

However the culture was very odd. Police officers very openly having affairs, I remember a sergeant bringing his pregnant wife into the office while he was having an affair with one of my colleagues who was sat right there. Lots of the officers on 2/3/4 marriages and still shagging around.

And there was a lot of low level sexual harassment - eg all trooping into an office because they had heard that you could see a woman in there's thong. I was asked to wear certain shoes by one officer because "they are sexy anf I don't get a lot of that at home"

There were also a minority of officers who'd message/email/nag female colleagues for sex and nothing was really done about them. It was just "banter".

It was my first job and I didn't really realise how odd it was until I worked somewhere else.

I think the power definitely attracts a large amount of narcissists and I think the police have to develop a morally superior "them vs us" attitude to deal with some of the horrific stuff they have to.

Yes, every time @Felix125 posts my heart sinks further. I was brought up to respect police officers but that's vanishing fast.

Personally I don't believe that Felix is a police officer. A wannabe maybe but he really appears to have no clue how the police actually works

Thanks AdamRyan. I feel for women working with such colleagues. I think I see female police officers as different from males.
(might be because I've been watching Happy Valley though - Catherine Cawood is such a good role model)

There was an interview last night, on radio 4 (PM) sadly didn't catch who it was.

They started that this had let down women, and let down the people of London.

Just a turn of phrase I know, but it did make me think 'hmm, women and people are different in this man's mind.'

It may have been Sadiq Khan, but I'm not sure... It could equally have been the new met commander...

There just seems to be this huge blind spot about sexual violence against women. Magnified when the offender is "one of their own".

yes, it's baffling (note: it isn't baffling. it is as pp said institutionalised misogyny along with their institutionalised racism and toxic masculinity.)

Let's do a "Say Her Name" for Shana Grice

Shana Grice murder: Parents lose stalker High Court bid

At least he was jailed for life (it's a minimum of 25 years)

"The jury heard that after making one complaint to Sussex Police about Lane, Miss Grice was issued with a fixed penalty notice for wasting police time because she did not disclose she had been in a relationship with him."

look out ladies - if you ever had a relationship with someone, according to the police here you are never allowed to report them.

Not his first crime, there is a surprise!
Shana Grice murder: Michael Lane harassed 12 women before killing ex

"Sussex Police said it thoroughly investigated the earlier report." but of course, as we know they are incapable of sharing intel or joining dots. Poor lambs.

not linking to The Sun but she reported him 5 times.

Now. For Felix each of those 5 times requires there to be an investigation. Maybe there was (I don't believe it). But at about the 3rd time a young woman comes into my station (were i a police officer) to report a stalker, i would start to wonder if there was maybe something in it. 4th time? 5th time. Sure I'd make sure she was punished for that so he is free to kill her.

I read an interview once with the police officer who had been responsible for Shana Grice being dismissed as a time waster. He was asked about her murder. He couldn't have given less of a fuck if he tried.

Meanwhile Cressida is in happy retirement on a six figure pension, courtesy of the taxpayer. Will she be subject to any investigation of police crime on her watch? Hopefully.

The fact that this excuse for a man appears to have been in the same role as Wayne Couzens is chilling.

We don't know why he confessed. Was there a digital trail? If so, how was that discovered? Does it start and end with Carrick?
Presumably he confessed because confessing was his best option, he was in someway cornered?

Meanwhile Cressida is in happy retirement on a six figure pension, courtesy of the taxpayer. Will she be subject to any investigation of police crime on her watch? Hopefully.

god she should have been fired over the de Menezes (sp) and again over the Everard fiasco. She is laughing all the way to the bank.

look out ladies - if you ever had a relationship with someone, according to the police here you are never allowed to report them
I think the mindset is that once a woman has had any kind of intimate relationship with a man he then owns her and can do whatever he likes to her, she is merely chattel and of no interest to other men because they do not wish to invade another man's territory ☹️

'[Sir Mark] Rowley was asked on ITV’s Good Morning Britain if he could guarantee that a woman visiting a police station to report a sexual offence would not meet a police officer whose past behaviour was now under review, or who was tolerating similar behaviour.
“I can’t, I’m not going to make a promise that I can’t stick to,” he said.'

I was going to include some of what Carrick had done to many women, but it's awful. It's in this article from The Times.
archive.ph/jZ4Yi#selection-957.0-965.74

One of these issues is about predatory and criminal men being disproportionately found adopting an identity that gives them access to women in vulnerable situations, and that confers a veneer of trustworthiness that conceals their true character from their female victims uynril its too late. The other one.....
oh, hang on a minute

Second this. Just bantz eh? It's so cultrally ingrained.

“Bantz” = homophobia, racism, misogyny but if you point it out as any of these things, you’re the idiot because “I was only joking! Can’t you take a joke?!”

Best to steer clear of men who claim to “enjoy a good banter”. They’re wankers.

And yet I was told I could not report my stalker/harrasser because I had NOT been in a relationship with him?

Its almost like they are just looking for excuses.

Also the statement that his crimes were not detected seems to conflict with his nickname at work, which was 'the rapist'