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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Met Police officer revealed as one of Britain’s worst rapists - Telegraph

275 replies

inkjet · 16/01/2023 11:33

uk.news.yahoo.com/serving-met-police-officer-revealed-111217785.html

Comprehensive article in The Telegraph.

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Brefugee · 16/01/2023 12:35

so how do you suggest they vet people?

When i was involved in intelligence work on a low level, i was vetted to the eyebrows. The further in i went the more vetting i underwent.

RoseslnTheHospital · 16/01/2023 12:37

I am so fed up of being horrified but at the same time sickendly unsurprised by these cases. Where is the recognition that the whole organisation is rotten to the core if men like this can be like this for years and years with no consequences?

Boiledbeetle · 16/01/2023 12:39

Carrick's full list of offences are:

24 counts of rape
nine counts of sexual assault
five counts of assault by penetration
three counts of coercive and controlling behaviour
three counts of false imprisonment
two counts of attempted rape
one count of attempted sexual assault by penetration
one count of causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent
one count of indecent assault

😡No words. At least not ones printable on here.

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 12:43

I know. It feels like open season on women, sometimes.

latetothefisting · 16/01/2023 12:45

How the hell could the one DCI quoted in the bbc news article say this with a straight fucking face
" I hope the victims and the public more widely are reassured that no-one is above the law and the police service will relentlessly pursue those offenders who target women in this way."

Reports were made to the police (and ignored) about him from 2002! 20 years to take any action is pretty much the opposite of "relentlessly pursuing". He was still on full pay until December! (I appreciate this is out of the police's hands but still!)

FunnyTalks · 16/01/2023 12:46

Too many men and by extension male institutions (which is basically all institutions) don't really believe rape is a thing. That's the conclusion I have come to. Especially if it's not down a dark alley with a knife, against a virgin wearing non revealing clothing.

It's a case of "there but for the grace of God go I".

I have no hope of this situation improving because trans activists and "sex work is work" enthusiasts have made sure real feminist thinking and analysis is kept out of schools.

Look at the shock over all these kids who admire Andrew Tate. Well you've been busy telling them porn is a great empowering employment opportunity for women and letting desperately down-with-the-kids idiots run sex ed lessons focusing on male sexual pleasure. How's a man to respond when he comes up against a woman IRL and she doesn't view herself as a support act in his sex dream?

poshme · 16/01/2023 12:48

Reports first made in 2002. And then in 2009 he moved to parliamentary and diplomatic protection. Which probably means armed.

FailingMotherhood · 16/01/2023 12:52

It's a bit fucking rich the, "Ooh, we should have spotted his predatory behaviour, sorry!", isn't it?

They didn't need to 'spot' it, they were fucking told about it repeatedly over the best part of 20 years - they just needed to listen and investigate.

LondonMum49 · 16/01/2023 12:56

I saw this as well which is pretty wild! how did Met Police not spot this on his social media before? www.mylondon.news/news/zone-1-news/police-officer-friend-said-david-25986822

FailingMotherhood · 16/01/2023 13:05

Look, just because he was repeatedly reported for sex offences and domestic violence, had mates repeatedly joking about his behaviour towards women, and was being known as 'Bastard Dave' by his colleagues,doesn't mean that the Met could have known! They're not detecti... oh.

Just hope his survivors feel some measure of justice, although I'd be fucking livid if my trauma had been dismissed and the perpetrator basically enabled by the police, allowing more women to suffer.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 16/01/2023 13:11

just watching this on the news. Its appalling but, sadly, not that surprising. There seems to be a culture within the Met of protecting their own, no matter what the evidence.

Evasmissingletter · 16/01/2023 13:13

Boiledbeetle · 16/01/2023 12:39

Carrick's full list of offences are:

24 counts of rape
nine counts of sexual assault
five counts of assault by penetration
three counts of coercive and controlling behaviour
three counts of false imprisonment
two counts of attempted rape
one count of attempted sexual assault by penetration
one count of causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent
one count of indecent assault

😡No words. At least not ones printable on here.

And probably many more we don’t know about . women too scared to come forward because he said he was untouchable and no one in the police would believe them. Sickening.

NotDavidTennant · 16/01/2023 13:19

This is just one bad apple - a total one off. Like the last one. And the one before that. And the one before that...

Natty13 · 16/01/2023 13:24

ArabellaScott · 16/01/2023 11:42

All the effort spent on their pissing useless fucking non-crime incidents, chasing women for misgendering, bullshit bullshit bullshit.

While men rape with impunity and the fucking implicit support of the authorities.

I'm fucking outraged and so fucking sick of it.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-64289461

Funny because my first thought was "yet feminists all over the country are more concerned about what toilets we all use"

In my opinoon this man and men like him pose 1000x more threat to me, my sisters and our daughters than any man wearing a dress, or any man who wants to transition m2f.

bonzaitree · 16/01/2023 13:25

Anyone else just not even surprised any more?

I read about this stuff and I am disgusted but just not surprised in the fucking slightest.

pattihews · 16/01/2023 13:25

Just came on here to start a thread and see I've been beaten to it.

Here's an archived link to the Times coverage:

archive.today/Mlnyp

He was known as Bastard Dave because he was so cruel and sadistic with colleagues. No one in management thought to do anything about it.

SecretVictoria · 16/01/2023 13:28

bonzaitree · 16/01/2023 13:25

Anyone else just not even surprised any more?

I read about this stuff and I am disgusted but just not surprised in the fucking slightest.

I’m not. Police forces have proved time and time again the lengths they will go to, to NOT arrest/prosecute people. They are obviously shite detectives as well, if they couldn’t see what was going on, literally under their noses. Appalling. It will happen again though.

pattihews · 16/01/2023 13:29

Natty13 · 16/01/2023 13:24

Funny because my first thought was "yet feminists all over the country are more concerned about what toilets we all use"

In my opinoon this man and men like him pose 1000x more threat to me, my sisters and our daughters than any man wearing a dress, or any man who wants to transition m2f.

In that case you'd be wrong. He's a prolific sex offender and so are four out of ten transgender offenders in gaol. Indeed recent statistics indicated that transwomen are statistically more likely to commit a sexual offence than any man.

HumphreyCobblers · 16/01/2023 13:31

Natty13 - so a man like that will be able to walk into any women's space and say that he is a woman. He won't have to put on a dress. We will have increased his access.

Reugny · 16/01/2023 13:32

Evasmissingletter · 16/01/2023 13:13

And probably many more we don’t know about . women too scared to come forward because he said he was untouchable and no one in the police would believe them. Sickening.

There are women who refused to come forward.

LaughingPriest · 16/01/2023 13:42

Natty13 · 16/01/2023 13:24

Funny because my first thought was "yet feminists all over the country are more concerned about what toilets we all use"

In my opinoon this man and men like him pose 1000x more threat to me, my sisters and our daughters than any man wearing a dress, or any man who wants to transition m2f.

Being concerned about who is let into women's spaces is precisely because of this male behaviour.

Feel free to draft a policy that doesn't include any circular reasoning that would keep a man like this out of women's spaces but would let a harmless male in. Go on, give it a try.

'Wearing a dress' has nothing to do with it. 'Transitioning' means making the statement 'I am a woman'.

Kucinghitam · 16/01/2023 13:42

bonzaitree · 16/01/2023 13:25

Anyone else just not even surprised any more?

I read about this stuff and I am disgusted but just not surprised in the fucking slightest.

Me. I'm utterly sickened but not surprised in the slightest.

Predatory males will do/say anything to access victims, and so many other people will happily enable them.

smooththecat · 16/01/2023 13:43

As a former educator, I can say that some of the most problematic students (socially, behaviourally) were also the ones attracted to a career in the police forces. A number of notable cases have always stayed in my mind. It needs to be stamped out right there at the beginning, but how? The forces know that they attract the wrong people, but they need people to do these jobs and many of the people who would be better at them are not attracted to the environment. The problem is that some of the qualities that are intrinsic to the police force are also attractive to those with anti-social tendencies, the right to wield power over another for example.

unclebuck · 16/01/2023 13:47

@Natty13 that is some mixed up thinking.
So you think this man became a Police officer in order to help protect people and then suddenly, in an unrelated turn of events became a rapist?
I think men like him connive and worm their way into situations where they have access to women and the protection of authorities. Putting on a dress is a lot easier than cos-playing as a police officer isn't it?

EmmaEmerald · 16/01/2023 13:51

Brefugee · 16/01/2023 12:35

so how do you suggest they vet people?

When i was involved in intelligence work on a low level, i was vetted to the eyebrows. The further in i went the more vetting i underwent.

if you mean me, I have no faith in any of the systems.

any vetting will do if it bars those with criminal convictions. But clearly the people in charge are happy to have criminals on board. There isn't a vetting system in the world that can fix that.