Met Police officer revealed as one of Britain’s worst rapists - Telegraph

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uk.news.yahoo.com/serving-met-police-officer-revealed-111217785.html

Comprehensive article in The Telegraph.

was waiting for you. I have not changed my tune AT ALL and this just shows you come here to spout your stuff and don't read (or don't read and understand)

he was reported at least 9 times and the absolute shower of shite useless fuckers DIDN'T MAKE A CONNECTION. I have been saying this to you since for fucking ever on that other thread.

9 reports about one person. NINE REPORTS ABOUT ONE PERSON and what? you can't join the dots. You don't join the dots. You don't want to join the dots.

HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS?

I said at the time and i say it now: if one person is reported 9 times, and each time you "investigated it properly" (i am crying honest-to-god tears of laughter here) there would be some kind of record. But no. Because. you. don't.

I see the usual police apologists have left this thread alone so far.

ah, @DerekFaker you alerted the Bat(shit) Signal for them

Brefugee

So the constant complaints against KJK should be taken seriously and investigated then - thanks, that closes that thread

So in that thread, each complaint against KJK needs to be investigated. You said in that thread that because non of the previous complaints went anywhere, the police should have 'joined up the dots' and not taken any further complaints against KJK seriously.

if you remember that isn't what i was saying at all. I was saying that if there was a serial reporter against one person, you might like to consider that if one person has serial reporters, it may be a stalker? it may be malicious reporting.

I have no issue around an actual investigation. But you don't look at all info. May i remind you yet again that when a young woman was reporting her stalker she was arrested, fined, and then killed by her stalker because you lot really don't know the meaning of the word investigate, especially when it's a woman as the complainant.

You have apparently investigated KJK enough to know that there is nothing to answer to? But the serial complainers continue unabated and unrestricted and uninvestigated.

So again: do you actually know what you're doing or do you just like strutting around in a stab vest thinking you're great?

So each report needs to be investigated properly?

Yes.

The police are suppose to uphold the law. If those whose job it is are alleged to have broken the law, then how can they be trusted to do their job fairly and firmly?

Oh, bollocks!

Thanks Derek

Felix is confused. Because i have said that, yes, proper investigations are required.
But that they also need to take note of malicious serial reports against someone. Something, apparently, they are unable to do. Until they do that and the wrong person is fined and then murdered.

Proper investigation of the 9 known-of reports into this particular officer might have triggered some kind of AHA! moment, if only they'd done it properly.

yeah, @DerekFaker have a good long think about what you did

Yes - and my point before is that at what point are you going to classify it as a malicious report.

Just because the same person phones in and the previous investigation doesn't result in a conviction. Or if the same person is accused?

Each report needs to be investigated properly and we can't just assume its a false report based on previous reports

Its the 'cry wolf' scenario

well, Felix, what do you think? after the 3rd or 4th when you realised that the person being accused had done nothing wrong.

On the other hand: when in the 9 reports against a rapist colleague do you start to think "hmm, and that nickname? perhaps WE OUGHT TO DO SOMETHING"? (don't bother, we know the anser is: never)

honestly, i don't get how you are not seeing this. Or do you just like to be on a wind up (I used to be in the Army, blokes like you all over the frikking pace with their "but why/how/when" without once attempting to engage their own brains)

So again for the hard of thinking i think this is how it goes when you get a report against KJK
1st report. Investigated. Nothing untoward
2nd report. Investigated. Nothing untoward
3rd report. Investigated. Nothing untoward
ad nauseam ad infinitum

at no point does anyone go "hmmmmmmm i wonder WHY she keeps being reported." and then checks to see if there is something connecting the reporters, or if the same person has multiple reports.

Report against serving officer
1st report. Not investigated
2nd report. Not investigated
3rd report. Not investigated
ad nauseum until

shock headline!

This is fucking heinous. Those poor women…

And yet the police forces have resources and time to ensure women are arrested, questioned, detained, doxxed, and destroyed because of a belief in biological reality, hurty words, speaking, stickers and ribbons.

It defies belief.

Its the 'cry wolf' scenario

do you think that's what the officers who fined that lass who was being stalked said? "oh she's making it up"
right up until her stalker killed her?

you are unbelievable. Seriously. you need to pack your job in because you just don't get it.

And yet they took Carl Beech seriously, because he's a man and because the men he was reporting were important:

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/22/how-nick-the-serial-child-abuse-accuser-became-the-accused

That's a good point regarding squaddies .., I'm an ex pads brat and remember vividly how much and how quickly rank was closed around someone and their predatory behaviour. I experienced it myself several times (assaulted twice before I was 17) by men known to my family. I've never spoken about it to anyone. But it's as if their behaviour is a perk of the job? X 100 if they are stationed in a holiday place.

The fact @Felix125 equates the UK's worst serial rapist by a serving police officer no less to KJK saying things people don't like tells you all you need to know about that state of british policing.
The priorities and common sense left a long time ago.
There is no self reflection. There is no concern for women's safety, well the one without penises anyway. It's just a shitshow.

Brefugee

So again for the hard of thinking i think this is how it goes when you get a report against KJK
1st report. Investigated. Nothing untoward
2nd report. Investigated. Nothing untoward
3rd report. Investigated. Nothing untoward
ad nauseam ad infinitum

And it looks like it the same for this officer

Each report should have been investigated - and should be investigated

We can't just assume after each report.

Quite. Carrick's offending is appalling. And we don't know if he's yet another "bad apple". We don't know why he confessed. Was there a digital trail? If so, how was that discovered? Does it start and end with Carrick?

I think I'd be keeping my counsel given these unknowns.

Oh my god felix you are making yourself look stupid.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64283783

Carrick joined the Met, aged 26, in 2001, after a spell in the Army. He had passed the vetting procedure despite having twice in the previous year been implicated, although not arrested or charged, in possible offences - including burglary, involving a former partner he had refused to accept he was no longer in a relationship with.

In 2002, Carrick, the rookie cop, was investigated by his own force, after being accused of assaulting and harassing an ex-partner. There were no criminal charges and he was not referred to the Met's directorate of professional standards.

In 2017, he sailed through his police re-vetting - but two years later, he was accused of grabbing a woman by the neck. Again, there were no criminal charges. And although the Met was informed, it decided against a misconduct process

And today the Met commander said "We have failed. And I'm sorry. He should not have been a police officer"

"This man abused women in the most disgusting manner. It is sickening. We've let women and girls down, and indeed we've let Londoners down. The women who suffered and survived this violence have been unimaginably brave and courageous in coming forward.

"I do understand also that this will lead to some women across London questioning whether they can trust the Met to keep them safe."
"We haven't applied the same sense of ruthlessness to guarding our own integrity that we routinely apply to confronting criminals."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-64293158

There's no question of serious failings here. He should never have been approved to join because of his history of DA, he wasn't investigated properly for repeated offences.

There's no equivalence between false allegations against KJK and this.

Listening to the news coverage is sickening. This morning the spokesman on R4 stated this pervert had "let the force down" WTF? No. A Man who smokes on duty lets the force down. This man raped women repeatedly.
They talk about "rooting out" this man. It didn't need 'rooting out', they needed to LISTEN to the women he attacked.
I am more and more appalled.
@Felix125's repulsive attitude conflating a woman's 'wrong speak' with a man who is paid to protect and serve raping women sums it up really.

thank you @AdamRyan - i was beginning to doubt myself.
That's the long arm of the law for you

@felix125, if you wouldn't mind answering a question for me, as a police officer, what are your feelings about all these terrible cases coming out of the met? Presumably you discuss this at work, what do your fellow officers think about it?

Yes, the woman who was arrested and kept in a police cell overnight for putting up stickers! I believe she was in a wheelchair, too.

@Felix125 ’s views are execrable.