Tate Britain, Drag Queen Story Hour and yet more nonsense

[Birdsweepsin]

1. The Tate decides to host DQSH

1. Art not Propaganda, together with Safe Schools Alliance, start a petition on change.org

1. Petition disappears!

1. New petition gathers momentum. Usual suspects start spitting feathers

1. Probably because of all this, the Telegraph have uncovered some well dodgy educational materials being produced by Tate Galleries.

And I am now looking up Linda Stuparts projects and trying to make sense of this word smorgasbord:

The project conflates different discourses around objects; those of the art object, an object oriented ontology (via Speculative Realism), sexual objectification (via second wave feminist conceptions of the male gaze, queer theory and post-feminism) and the psychoanalytical object. The project proposes that a new ethical and aesthetic position may be gleaned from making and writing contemporary art from specific positions of objecthood.

A non-division, or absence of relation; voiding of distance, which I propose as the post-critical empathetic exchange of objects, is played out through my practice, which enacts a non-division between writing and making; experimenting with intimacy, embodied critique and realisms without representation

Thematically, the work situates my ‘self’ as material – working with strategies of confessional, critique and fictional writing and image/object production in relation to other kinds of materials and in particular relation to productions of images, art and art worlds.

I think too many people are confusing adult cruises with childhood memories...

Does anyone with a Telegraph subscription wish to post a link to the petition.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4719010-stop-the-tate-pushing-gender-ideology-on-children

If you follow the above, you can copy a link directly to it.

Thanks cake!

Other activities suggested in guidance provide by the Tate galleries, which are a popular definition for school trips, including making clay bodies using with their “hands/elbows/fingernails/feet/tongue”, and using “wigs, paper, face paint…
and your expressions and movements” to pretend to have another body.

Kids making themselves paper/junk costumes & getting to paint their faces = fantastic. As long as you’re letting them genuinely have their imaginations run wild, that is. But WTAH to licking clay?! We do not let children lick random shite. It’s sort of a thing. And if you’ve just managed to train Adam & Evie out of trying to taste-test everything in the classroom, some mad fecker telling them to poke a lump of clay with their grubby extremities before basically snogging it is going to about make you have a nervous breakdown, as well as utterly confuse them.

FGS. Also, please God let Goldsmiths return to just training teachers. They were good at that. Just training teachers to teach, no propaganda allowed. But lots on safeguarding.

some mad fecker telling them to poke a lump of clay with their grubby extremities before basically snogging it is going to about make you have a nervous breakdown

Helen Joyce about 43 minutes in talks about Queer theory.

If you carry on listening at about 46 minutes they go on to talk about Drag Queen Story Hour.

Since when does the Tate think its job is to indoctrinate children?

Thank you Cake.

Artists want to think they are clever philosophers. It’s part of the showmanship.

Curators rather.

I think, in their mind, they think about what it was like to be a gay little boy in the 80s and want to contribute to making the world a better place for gay little boys now, which is both understandable and commendable. They're just going about it in completely the wrong way and have an over-emotional, kneejerk 'bigot' response towards anyone who challenges them.

...they also don't realise that the world is a vastly different place than it was when they were growing up. Being gay is far more acceptable - with so many gay storylines etc (which is great) is there really any need for an oversexualised drag performance for children?! Also, the risks of the online world - seeking approval online with more a more far out 'identities' and sexual practices, which weren't there 20-30 years ago. They think they're being sooooo forward thinking, but they're really outdated in their thinking and out of touch. Like a 'cool teacher' trying and failing to be down with the kids.

brokendogbowl· Today 19:47

As far as I am aware LGB were always accepted in artistic circles.
They think they're being sooooo forward thinking, but they're really outdated in their thinking and out of touch. Like a 'cool teacher' trying and failing to be down with the kids.
Yes, as far as I am aware homosexual people were of course always accepted in artistic circles.

The Tate is being gauche at the very least. It is also horribly misguided in launching an authoritarian gender identity indoctrination campaign aimed at children.
(Which can ironically lead to gay children thinking they are in the wrong bodies.)

Unfortunately I’ve just lost a post which was a transcription I was doing from Helen Joyce’s discussion on Triggerometry from the part where she explained why Drag Queen Story Hour is indoctrination; why parents take their children (“cool mum”); and why it isn’t the same as pantomime. I’ll try again later.

To sign the petition against the Tate pushing gender identity on children:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4719010-stop-the-tate-pushing-gender-ideology-on-children

I watched the Triggernometry interview and as always she was spot on. Yes, she was saying it's about parents wanting to feel like they're cool, basically, to escape the drudgery of parenthood and rebrand themselves. I know a family like this who have a lovely little boy who is fairly typically into playing cars, monster trucks, with his bike etc. They dressed him up in drag and put photos of him on Instagram in make up and a dress with the hashtag #dragprincess. He was 4 at the time, not old enough to even know what drag is or to know much at all about sexuality. If he was coming to them and wanting to dress up, that's fine (apart from the instagram part), but from what I've seen of this family it's all about them trying to outwoke all the other parents and hasn't come from the little boy at all. They'll probably decide he's trans next. Edina from AbFab springs to mind when thinking about these kinds of parents, how she wanted her daughter to be gay and was delighted when her son was, embarrassing him by being OTT about it, then was parading around her daughter's black baby like a fashion accessory. They should put reruns on the BBC, some of these people need to recognise themselves and wake up!

To sign the petition against the Tate pushing gender identity on children:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4719010-stop-the-tate-pushing-gender-ideology-on-children

Petition signed.

This is about a petition to stop The Tate from taking a remit upon itself to make it its business to indoctrinate children with gender identity ideology and queer theory.
To sign
www.mumsnet.com/talk/petitions_noticeboard/4719010-stop-the-tate-pushing-gender-ideology-on-children

From the The Tate’s teaching resource for schools:
I WANT TO SHOW YOU A BODY
THINKING THROUGH GENDER, BODIES AND BUILDING DIFFERENT WORLDS

”The numbers of young people coming out as trans or questioning their gender
is growing. We can estimate that 1% of the global population will use the term trans
to describe themselves, but there is some research which suggests that over a third of people experience themselves as feeling to some extent a different gender to the one they were assigned at birth;1 good practice in this area will be great for them too. We also know that young people are coming out as trans at an increasingly younger and younger age”

”In my own work, I think a lot about radical utopian queer futures, inhabited by weird, often traumatised, difficult, powerful alien bodies”

(Very interesting but not something to confuse children with - some of whom m may feel different through being autistic, and some abused and actually traumatised.)

”This section combines ideas about how sculpture can help us to rethink our own bodies in relation to gender, and also how thinking through non-human bodies, for example, the possibility of alien life forms, can be a useful introduction to thinking through gender as a construct”

(This conflates ‘gender’ and sex. Sex is defined by a body, ‘gender’ is a social construct exaggerating ideas of what is feminine and what is masculine. As put here, this ‘Queer theory* - that all boundaries are useless constructs - is confusing for children.)

The Tate should be showing art, not taking on the job of indoctrinating children in the cult of gender identity ideology.

They are also introducing Drag Queen Story Time to begin the indoctrination and confusion in children about sex and gender as early as possible.

Both the Tate and the Museum of the Home are funded directly by government.

Drag Queen events really truly have nothing to do with their core functions. I don't know their rational behind it? Are museums there to protect? Conserve? Educate about art or history? Or push certain ideological standpoints? Maybe all of the above. A panto dame would be equally pointless, but at least isn't adult sexual entertainment.

This is our tax money they are wasting, meanwhile other museums are going under though lack of funding.

I think they deserve a budget cut.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4684623-hanukkah-and-drag-queen-story-time

Oh forgot to include this. The Museum of the Homes little virtue signal

For anyone here wondering what is wrong with Drag Queen Story Hour this video of a talk with Helen Joyce on Troggernometry is interesting to listen to.

The whole talk is very interesting but if you don’t have time for all of it, at about 43- 45 minutes in she touches on queer theory, at 47 in she goes on to talk
specifically about why DQSH is aimed at young children to indoctrinate them in gender identity ideology; why it is not just like panto; and what influences parents to take their children.