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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WTF India Willoughby Racist tweet

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badbaduncle · 29/11/2022 12:43

twitter.com/KDansky/status/1597292701728137216?cxt=HBwWgICjjfvP3KosAAAA&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

I don't understand this tweet at all - wtf does India mean? 'All one word"

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DodoPatrol · 02/12/2022 11:08

Because it suggests/reveals that people don't think 'trans' is just an adjective-like-any-other to describe a woman. Which, let's face it, is because it's not an adjective that describes a woman.

I think India is massively misplacing where India is directing the worry here, and should instead be thinking about why anyone would buy into the idea that language makes a man a woman, or that coercing other people's grammar makes a man a woman, or that clothes do, or makeup, or surgery.

It can't be done. And that's why India will never be happy.

Cattenberg · 02/12/2022 11:09

Because they see trans women as women full stop, and trans as being an adjective, used in the same way as “red-haired women”, “tall women” or “Tory women” etc.

Some trans activists also believe that trans women are female, which I cannot agree with.

Datun · 02/12/2022 11:14

RoyalCorgi · 02/12/2022 10:07

The post from Barracker is brilliant. I'm so sorry she's gone. What was she banned for - was it the pronouns post? I hope she's making her voice heard elsewhere.

I don't think she was banned. Just taking a break and getting on with real life.

Datun · 02/12/2022 11:18

It wouldn't at all surprise me if many men who identify as women wanted to buy Tampax, for the validation and thrill. We know there are numerous videos with 'period kits' to fake periods, across the Internet. It's all part of it.

Although, I don't think it's very validating, given that there are many men, certainly in my family, who don't give a second thought about buying period products for the women in their lives. They just go in the trolley, along with everything else.

AlisonDonut · 02/12/2022 11:18

Cattenberg · 02/12/2022 11:09

Because they see trans women as women full stop, and trans as being an adjective, used in the same way as “red-haired women”, “tall women” or “Tory women” etc.

Some trans activists also believe that trans women are female, which I cannot agree with.

IW not so long ago offered to go onto a radio programme and show the host IW's cervix.

The radio host didn't take up the offer.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/12/2022 11:24

AlisonDonut · 02/12/2022 11:18

IW not so long ago offered to go onto a radio programme and show the host IW's cervix.

The radio host didn't take up the offer.

Oy

I know IW puts IWself in the public eye at any and all opportunity, but they do seem to me to be a very unwell and unhappy person who is best ignored for their own good

AlisonDonut · 02/12/2022 12:23

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/12/2022 11:24

Oy

I know IW puts IWself in the public eye at any and all opportunity, but they do seem to me to be a very unwell and unhappy person who is best ignored for their own good

My point was about the belief that IW thinks IW is so female that IW thinks IW has a cervix.

It isn't down to me to determine IW's mental health and whether IW should be ignored or not.

You may choose to ignore IW as you wish.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/12/2022 12:41

Trust me when I say that I try to ignore IW. However their diverting lunacy acts against me

I think my point is an extension of yours. A man who believes he can show someone his cervix is not a well person

DialSquare · 02/12/2022 12:57

We all know that this ideology has no logic to it whatsoever but many of the supporters say that they support trans rights and that TWAW but if TWAW, what trans rights do they need support with that they do not currently have (I know this has been asked by us many times on here and nothing is ever forthcoming but I'm trying to look from a TRA perspective on this).

Surely using both statements would be confirmation that TWANW.

DialSquare · 02/12/2022 13:00

Meant to add that most of us on here support trans rights to not be discriminated against or abused etc but we know that TWANW.

AlisonDonut · 02/12/2022 13:03

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 02/12/2022 12:41

Trust me when I say that I try to ignore IW. However their diverting lunacy acts against me

I think my point is an extension of yours. A man who believes he can show someone his cervix is not a well person

OR it proves the point that a man doesn't even know what a cervix is, and if that is the case can we be assured that all females know what a cervix is, where it is and whether they even know they have one and thus is a smear test even applicable for them?

It proves the point that we need to be clear about language. I suspect IW thinks the top of a reconstructed vagina is an actual cervix. Which as we know, it isn't.

howmanybicycles · 02/12/2022 13:06

I expect that IW has the end of a pseudo vagina and wrong thinks that is a cervix. This kind of detachment from reality does a lot to showcase the powerful emotional needs which trigger many TW to attempt to deny biological reality. Even if you are captured by the idea that TWAW, you'd have to be a special kind of entitled stupid to think that they have cervixes.

GrinAndVomit · 02/12/2022 13:13

AlisonDonut · 02/12/2022 13:03

OR it proves the point that a man doesn't even know what a cervix is, and if that is the case can we be assured that all females know what a cervix is, where it is and whether they even know they have one and thus is a smear test even applicable for them?

It proves the point that we need to be clear about language. I suspect IW thinks the top of a reconstructed vagina is an actual cervix. Which as we know, it isn't.

I worked as an ESOL instructor for a really long time. I also worked with people with significant learning difficulties.
I can attest that there is a sizeable proportion of the population who don’t know if they have a cervix.

Fififafa · 02/12/2022 13:15

howmanybicycles · 02/12/2022 13:06

I expect that IW has the end of a pseudo vagina and wrong thinks that is a cervix. This kind of detachment from reality does a lot to showcase the powerful emotional needs which trigger many TW to attempt to deny biological reality. Even if you are captured by the idea that TWAW, you'd have to be a special kind of entitled stupid to think that they have cervixes.

To be a little bit fair to IW, Transwomen are sold a ridiculous fantasy by the lucrative gender reassignment industry. They are told that by mutilating themselves, they can acquire female anatomy. I wonder how much information they are given about the long term consequences of inverting their penises, testicle removal and use of medications required to sustain the illusion that they are somehow female.

howmanybicycles · 02/12/2022 13:45

Fififafa · 02/12/2022 13:15

To be a little bit fair to IW, Transwomen are sold a ridiculous fantasy by the lucrative gender reassignment industry. They are told that by mutilating themselves, they can acquire female anatomy. I wonder how much information they are given about the long term consequences of inverting their penises, testicle removal and use of medications required to sustain the illusion that they are somehow female.

Yes but anyone who has done GCSE to age 12 or 13 should know some basics of what a cervix is. IW does not come across as having global developmental needs and clearly is choosing to believe the line IW was spun.

IW statement shows that even the degrading terms of 'uterus haver', 'cervix havers' won't wash. IW wants women's health and wellbeing to be sacrificed to make IW feel better. IW focus entirely on herself, in a very infantile way, is really clear. Kier Starmer, for example, might want to stop and think about the fact that 'it should never be said that only women have cervixes' (arse that he is), has been replaced by IW with 'anyone who says they has a cervix has one'. Surely even someone who hates women as much as Kier can see the damage that statement wreaks?

Abccde · 02/12/2022 13:55

Fififafa · 02/12/2022 13:15

To be a little bit fair to IW, Transwomen are sold a ridiculous fantasy by the lucrative gender reassignment industry. They are told that by mutilating themselves, they can acquire female anatomy. I wonder how much information they are given about the long term consequences of inverting their penises, testicle removal and use of medications required to sustain the illusion that they are somehow female.

I think TM are sold that more than TW.

TW don't need to change anything about themselves to be a 'woman'.

Abccde · 02/12/2022 13:56

howmanybicycles · 02/12/2022 13:45

Yes but anyone who has done GCSE to age 12 or 13 should know some basics of what a cervix is. IW does not come across as having global developmental needs and clearly is choosing to believe the line IW was spun.

IW statement shows that even the degrading terms of 'uterus haver', 'cervix havers' won't wash. IW wants women's health and wellbeing to be sacrificed to make IW feel better. IW focus entirely on herself, in a very infantile way, is really clear. Kier Starmer, for example, might want to stop and think about the fact that 'it should never be said that only women have cervixes' (arse that he is), has been replaced by IW with 'anyone who says they has a cervix has one'. Surely even someone who hates women as much as Kier can see the damage that statement wreaks?

IW claims to need Smeer tests.

Iw does probably get the messages to go for a smeer tests but that is because how the NHS it systems work and what is stored on the records rather than an actual need.

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