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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

WTF India Willoughby Racist tweet

167 replies

badbaduncle · 29/11/2022 12:43

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I don't understand this tweet at all - wtf does India mean? 'All one word"

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RumNotRun · 29/11/2022 13:58

What's Cat Twitter? That sounds much nicer than real Twitter. Is it just full of pictures and memes of cats?

TinFoilHatty · 29/11/2022 13:59

I actually feel sick, what an awful awful person India is. Force teaming black women is appalling.

viques · 29/11/2022 13:59

Is there such a thing as a transincel. Or trans incel if that makes it easier to read. If there isn’t , there should be. Because there are certainly people who seem to fit the venn diagram intersection.

AdamRyan · 29/11/2022 13:59

I think India is jealous that Esther has a journalist job.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/11/2022 14:00

'Transwoman' is a polite, or enforced, compromise from people who know that males aren't any sort of woman.

Claiming 'blackwoman' has any equivalence is racist misogyny.

AlisonDonut · 29/11/2022 14:00

So, do we know yet what exactly males do with tampons they are buying in support of Tampax's vile tweet?

ErrolTheDragon · 29/11/2022 14:03

AlisonDonut · 29/11/2022 14:00

So, do we know yet what exactly males do with tampons they are buying in support of Tampax's vile tweet?

I neither know nor care. If IW thinks they can be used as earplugs, all I can infer is a lack of knowledge of the product and/or female anatomy.

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 14:04

viques · 29/11/2022 13:59

Is there such a thing as a transincel. Or trans incel if that makes it easier to read. If there isn’t , there should be. Because there are certainly people who seem to fit the venn diagram intersection.

I thought there was a group that labelled themselves 'transmaxxers' that fell into the category you are talking about.

viques · 29/11/2022 14:07

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 14:04

I thought there was a group that labelled themselves 'transmaxxers' that fell into the category you are talking about.

Ah, hard to keep up with all the hissy fit splinter groups. If only there was a simple umbrella term, you know, like the one adult female humans have……….

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 14:09

ErrolTheDragon · 29/11/2022 14:00

'Transwoman' is a polite, or enforced, compromise from people who know that males aren't any sort of woman.

Claiming 'blackwoman' has any equivalence is racist misogyny.

Yes, Errol. I think that some people have been led to believe that some males have some kind of right to claim to be 'just like all women' through use of that term.

To attempt to draw an equivalence here that transwoman is hateful is missing the very blatant misogny of the language allowing 'transwomen'. I am always surprised that any person posting on a feminist board thinks that women cannot see that misogyny.

As I have said before, women demand no males in our spaces. Even linguistic ones.

ErrolTheDragon · 29/11/2022 14:11

"transwoman" (let alone 'trans woman') is colonisers' terminology.

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 14:12

AlisonDonut · 29/11/2022 14:00

So, do we know yet what exactly males do with tampons they are buying in support of Tampax's vile tweet?

What is ridiculous is that Willoughby is doubling down with some ludicrous discussion point that is effectively that transitioned males should be centred in any discussion about tampons. And that females questioning this as fetishistic behaviour are to be monstered.

Or so it seems.....

DodoPatrol · 29/11/2022 14:12

RedAndBlueStripedGolfingUmbrella · 29/11/2022 13:52

I think she's pointing out that just like putting trans woman as all one word is transphobic, putting black woman all as one word is racist.
It is, horribly so.
That's her point though.
Definitely don't agree with tackling transphobia with racism though.

But transwomen are male. It's just a sort of courtesy title to call them anything containing 'women' at all. 'Person who adopts some feminine-gendered stereotypes' would be nearer the mark.

Black women, white women, lesbian women are all of the same sex. India is of the opposite sex. That's unarguable given that India has fathered children.

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BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 29/11/2022 14:21

Isn't it India who describes themselves as a cis female? After that I wouldn't expect any sense at all

WallaceinAnderland · 29/11/2022 14:22

IW's point is that trans women and black women are both subsets of women.

IW is wrong. And racist.

Transwoman describes a man who prefers to be referred to as a woman.

The fact that they would also prefer a space between the words is irrelevant. It still means the same thing.

Women are female from the day they are conceived. Black, white, tall, short, whatever, is a description of their noun - woman.

No transwoman needs a descripter of woman because they are not one. If they were, they wouldn't be trans.

Everyone knows this.

WallaceinAnderland · 29/11/2022 14:36

AlisonDonut · 29/11/2022 14:00

So, do we know yet what exactly males do with tampons they are buying in support of Tampax's vile tweet?

"My period started so, ya couldn't go into the pool. But it was so much fun! Forgot my tampons in my other bag FML."

https://activistmommy.com/biological-male-jessica-yaniv-misses-pool-party-because-he-forgot-his-tampons/

Needaholidaypronto · 29/11/2022 15:04

Twitter is a cesspit

EdgeOfACoin · 29/11/2022 15:13

I prefer to use the term mtf transitioner rather than transwoman now. It is not without its issues, but on the whole it is clearer.

Hepwo · 29/11/2022 15:16

"who think they're it"

Am I the only one amused by how old the insults sound? That's the sort of thing my 80 odd year old parents say.

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 15:17

Yes edge. I use transitioned male. I would prefer to use men or just male, but sometimes a more defined description is needed.

arethereanyleftatall · 29/11/2022 15:24

RoyalCorgi · 29/11/2022 13:05

Awful. India is a nasty piece of work. It's amazing that India is willing to display such racism publicly. Why would anyone want to have this person on their television programme?

What's interesting is India thinks she's not invited on shows/got any work because she's trans. Whereas it's actually because she's a twat with vacuous views.

ControversialOpening · 29/11/2022 15:27

I have plenty of terms I'd rather use than transwoman. They're more accurate as well.

Many places won't accept these terms, despite the fact they are true, so 'transwoman' is a compromise. I will never describe a male as a woman.

Helleofabore · 29/11/2022 15:33

arethereanyleftatall · 29/11/2022 15:24

What's interesting is India thinks she's not invited on shows/got any work because she's trans. Whereas it's actually because she's a twat with vacuous views.

And aggressively so.

I wonder if Willoughby's actions in that Big Brother house were recognised.

That combined with the ridiculousness that they come out with. I mean, offering for Piers Morgan to look at their 'cervix' ... unless you are a suitably a shock jock as Morgan is, who the fuck wants someone like that on their show when you are trying to have a sensible discussion?

I think their instability has been recognised by most media outlets by now.

Usethesausageasabreakwater · 29/11/2022 15:34

Unbelievable