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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sturgeon to give speech at event banning talk of single sex spaces

112 replies

ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 06:06

In The Times:

Zero tolerance event bans talk of single sex spaces

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6706e702-6f72-11ed-8a5b-f385de7508fe?shareToken=732040628914a5ae28102b14f150cb6b

"Sturgeon’s speech, due to be delivered about halfway through the event, is expected to last be about 20 minutes. is due to deliver the main speech, which is due to last 20 minutes, around half way through the event.

The decision might have been made to “save the blushes of the first minister”, suggested Marion Calder, director of For Women Scotland.

She praised Zero Tolerance’s work but said: “Thirty years on, Scottish women must be wondering what has happened to this organisation.”"

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Happylittlechicken · 29/11/2022 06:16

So at a conference about VAWG, they’re silencing women talking about why they may require single sex spaces. And they call themselves feminists? Obviously from the same school of feminism as wee Nicola. The kind that prioritises men.

SallyLockheart · 29/11/2022 06:16

They are asked not to question “what is a woman” too

spineless

waterwitch · 29/11/2022 06:31

Hahahaha
How can you discuss ways to reduce violence towards women & girls if you’re not allowed to define what a woman (or presumably girl) is?

Happylittlechicken · 29/11/2022 06:41

Exactly. So they’re wanting to talk about VAWG, but can’t talk about who is doing violence to whom? Pathetic.

Rightsraptor · 29/11/2022 06:45

A charitable reading of this might be that the organisers don't want the talk bogged down by that one oft-repeated question.

Maybe.

Hooverphobe · 29/11/2022 06:50

This is probably outing but I am still RAGING at my local Scottish WA who posted on their FB on the 18th/19th of this month one day about “international men’s day” and the other day “international trans day”.

I mean are we now putting men at the very CORE of desperately needed safe spaces?

I’m fucking furious at them and I come at this as a woman who has used WA and lived in a safe house.

Hoardasurass · 29/11/2022 07:08

This is destroying any and all pretence that Stergon or anyone involved in her government or funded by them cares,respects or gives 1 shit about women and girls.

ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 07:12

Obviously what will happen is, Little Miss Feminist To My Fingertips will refuse to appear at an event that hates women.

<pops kettle on>
<waits>

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Numsmetbunfight · 29/11/2022 08:14

Female attendees should follow the lead of the protesters in China, and hold up blank pieces of paper in protest at what they are not allowed to say.

AutumnCrow · 29/11/2022 08:18

Oh yes, blank white placards, paper, badges, and white lanyards and scarves. The colour of being silenced.

Blank white space.

Signalbox · 29/11/2022 08:19

I can’t imagine that every woman at this conference will obey this order.

Kucinghitam · 29/11/2022 08:28

Well, the strategy has worked, because I'm currently speechless.

Tricyrtis2022 · 29/11/2022 08:39

That is completely insane. How exactly do they plan to stop women talking about women-only spaces?

FrancescaContini · 29/11/2022 08:44

waterwitch · 29/11/2022 06:31

Hahahaha
How can you discuss ways to reduce violence towards women & girls if you’re not allowed to define what a woman (or presumably girl) is?

Quite.

Waitwhat23 · 29/11/2022 08:45

So many organisations in this country, previously well respected, have become poor copies of themselves through their own cowardice.

TheKeatingFive · 29/11/2022 08:55

Fuck sake 🤦‍♀️

WomaninBoots · 29/11/2022 09:00

It does not make sense to include transwomen in the category woman for discussion of male violence towards women and girls. Any violence transwomen experience at the hands of their fellow males is born of a different root than male violence towards women and girls. How can we get to the core of the issue if we muddy the waters by not defining clearly who "women and girls" are? How can we discuss this issue fully without appreciation of the importance that single sex spaces play in protecting women and girls?

Banning these conversations is a disgrace. If Nicola Sturgeon had the courage of her convictions she would be prepared to engage in these discussions. She is a coward.

Brefugee · 29/11/2022 09:03

we just had a week to raise trans profiles though were violance against trans people was discussed, wasn't it?

Now at an event to discuss VAWG ... i can't anymore. We need to fully embrace it. Don't use the word trans.
Then there are no trans people and we can ignore any of their issues because they don't exist.

(not really but that is the logical conclusion of their nonsense)

IllDoItButOnlyForTheAttention · 29/11/2022 09:08

Saw "Sturgeon" and "single sex spaces" whilst scrolling Active and wondered if she'd come to her senses a little bit.

Alas, no 🤬

FemaleAndLearning · 29/11/2022 09:15

Wow Sturgeon is a dictator who hates women and girls.

RealFeminist · 29/11/2022 09:17

NOBDY TALK ABOUT WOMMEN AND WE CAN FOCUS ON THE MAIN ISSUE WHICH IS MEN

maltravers · 29/11/2022 09:19

Well, that makes rather clear she knows exactly the harm she’s causing. I hope the women present raise the awkward questions anyway and hold her accountable - it’s called democracy Nicola.

tresleches · 29/11/2022 09:23

The quote from organisers I read said they had "strong opinions on" the issues that must not be discussed, which I wasn't sure if was supposed to be a wink-wink... Maybe getting her onstage in front of a load of disapproving feminists to spout the fingertips shite will be her Waterloo?

ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 09:25

She must know that every woman in Scotland has this issue in the back of their minds. She must know how many women are survivors, of abuse, assault, harassment. She must know how we feel, and what we think.

How her actions have maintained an arrogant, callous, dismissive, contemptuous aura of bullshit for the past few years, how women have been failed by her over and over, how women have RAGED at all this, politely, reasonably, consistently, bravely - to no avail.

You can try and 'wheesht' us all you want, Sturgeon, but you can't stop us from thinking.

We see you.

Toseland · 29/11/2022 09:28

I hope no one claps and she's booed everywhere she goes.