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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sturgeon to give speech at event banning talk of single sex spaces

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ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 06:06

In The Times:

Zero tolerance event bans talk of single sex spaces

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6706e702-6f72-11ed-8a5b-f385de7508fe?shareToken=732040628914a5ae28102b14f150cb6b

"Sturgeon’s speech, due to be delivered about halfway through the event, is expected to last be about 20 minutes. is due to deliver the main speech, which is due to last 20 minutes, around half way through the event.

The decision might have been made to “save the blushes of the first minister”, suggested Marion Calder, director of For Women Scotland.

She praised Zero Tolerance’s work but said: “Thirty years on, Scottish women must be wondering what has happened to this organisation.”"

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Whoputtheramintheramalamadingdong · 29/11/2022 14:02

Sturgeon is silencing any questions about it bc she knows she's talking absolute bollocks. She cannot answer the questions she knows women want to ask as there are no intelligent answers - the issue will be shown up for the nonsensical bullshit it is and she can't allow that.

She doesn't care though. It's all about her woke agenda and she'll just bulldoze through as many policies as she can, allowing no questions to be asked.

Numsmetbunfight · 29/11/2022 14:09

That would be quite the optics, to see lots of blank pieces of paper held up at the Q&A

FemaleAndLearning · 29/11/2022 18:01

Apparently on JKRs thread someone said a woman on Zoom said something so they turned the Zoom off. Trying to find out more

Waitwhat23 · 29/11/2022 18:13

A woman addressed Sturgeon directly and was thrown out -

twitter.com/JocastaMoney/status/1597642361181736960?s=20&t=CSikTNLc6AJxTO684I0PVA

And this was outside the venue -

Amazing women. Scottish women aren't going to wheesht. Ever.

Sturgeon to give speech at event banning talk of single sex spaces
radrado · 29/11/2022 18:20

Unbelievable. Or believable. Feel like I’m in some dystopian nightmare. Have written to my MSPs and not had one response.

I liked this reply to JKR on twitter.

Sturgeon to give speech at event banning talk of single sex spaces
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/11/2022 18:23

To be fair to Zero Tolerance, if you want Scottish Government funding (which I think they get) you are required to believe TWAW.

Waitwhat23 · 29/11/2022 18:31

Nicola's pal being at the event makes it obvious why women were told they weren't allowed to talk about single sex spaces -

twitter.com/crit_gen/status/1597625924388020225?s=20&t=bPF3ICbbIe5ok3jyoXaQFA

ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 18:54

Looks like it went well

twitter.com/oceanbreathcafe/status/1597652609250119681?s=46&t=r0rB0VUPxPN48APJwhS_kg

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ArcaneWireless · 29/11/2022 18:55

Ah. Is that the one who suggested rape victims needed to reframe their trauma and have a positive relationship with it?

That explains a lot. And I daresay I would struggle to summon up a positive comment about either of them.

Reframe that.

ArcaneWireless · 29/11/2022 18:58

Fair play to that woman.

And all Nicola had to show for it there was a tight little letterbox mouth.

Ramblingnamechanger · 29/11/2022 19:05

Well done that woman, and those outside too.

FrancescaContini · 29/11/2022 19:18

Waitwhat23 · 29/11/2022 18:31

Nicola's pal being at the event makes it obvious why women were told they weren't allowed to talk about single sex spaces -

twitter.com/crit_gen/status/1597625924388020225?s=20&t=bPF3ICbbIe5ok3jyoXaQFA

Ah. THIS man. Who tells rape victims to “reframe their trauma” so that males can be allowed into rape crisis centres. This MAN.

ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 19:28

Waitwhat23 · 29/11/2022 18:31

Nicola's pal being at the event makes it obvious why women were told they weren't allowed to talk about single sex spaces -

twitter.com/crit_gen/status/1597625924388020225?s=20&t=bPF3ICbbIe5ok3jyoXaQFA

Fucking hell.

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ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 19:40

JKR has tweeted the video of that fantastic woman

twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1597668739222474753?s=46&t=qo1iMS-chfaoqeMG5wMMpw

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nilsmousehammer · 29/11/2022 19:41

FrancescaContini · 29/11/2022 19:18

Ah. THIS man. Who tells rape victims to “reframe their trauma” so that males can be allowed into rape crisis centres. This MAN.

Quite. The man whose entire job rests on female people being subjugated to male interests. Who has a lot of skin in the game of dismissing female trauma and needs in order to successfully divert all female resources and females in them to meet male needs.

Rather like Sturgeon who will sell the entire of her sex down the river to meet her own personal needs. I have never been so disgusted by a woman politician.

ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 19:52

Waitwhat23 · 29/11/2022 18:13

A woman addressed Sturgeon directly and was thrown out -

twitter.com/JocastaMoney/status/1597642361181736960?s=20&t=CSikTNLc6AJxTO684I0PVA

And this was outside the venue -

Amazing women. Scottish women aren't going to wheesht. Ever.

Whoever you are, nameless woman, I would very much like to buy you a drink. Thank you, sincerely and deeply.

Whatthechicken · 29/11/2022 19:53

How fucking dare anyone attend a conference to give a speech about VAWG and insist that no one talk about the definition of women and single sex spaces. It may as well be just about violence against anyone.

There is an opportunity here for people to understand why violence against women and girls is so prevalent, why it happens, the damage it does and how we can tackle it - but if we can’t talk about what a woman is, then what’s the fucking point - our sexed bodies are the very reason for VAWG.

well done to that woman that spoke, and shame on those that stayed silent.

ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 19:55

ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 18:54

Star. Fucking star. Thank you.

ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 19:57

And she's right. Those who go along with this are complicit.

ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 20:01

In The Times:

Women ‘silently sidelined’ by ban on discussing single sex spaces at Zero Tolerance event

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3f7ea796-7004-11ed-8a5b-f385de7508fe?shareToken=fa128a30b557b3221ebb86f4568f0dd5

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ArabellaScott · 29/11/2022 20:07

ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 19:40

I love that Americans are asking for a translation 😂

Here is the text. Succint and pointed.

Sturgeon to give speech at event banning talk of single sex spaces
littlbrowndog · 29/11/2022 20:18

You see all the posh women looking outraged that that woman dared to rock the boat
their wee angry faces. All on the Scottish government gravy train
and that dude from Edinburgh rape crisis swanning about being feted by everyone

look at us we are so inclusive

my country is a total disgrace and the First Feminist gives no fucks about women and girls in her country.

traitor to her fingernails

ResisterRex · 29/11/2022 20:31

A clip of her response: "in my long experience most men don't feel the need to change gender to commit violence against women"

Most.

Most men.

So some will and some do. An admission, a shift. But with a side helping of "look how much I know. Me and my oodles of experience".

More to the point, is the sudden realisation that some sex offenders seem to have that they do want to change gender once time in stir is on the cards. Gosh I don't wonder why?

twitter.com/forwomenscot/status/1597682593813524480?s=46&t=qo1iMS-chfaoqeMG5wMMpw

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NecessaryScene · 29/11/2022 20:40

"in my long experience most men don't feel the need to change gender to commit violence against women"

During most of that "long experience", "changing gender" was not a free pass getting you through all sorts of safeguarding and into women's prisons, was it!?

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