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Here we go again! Brighton Police want to interview KJK about a hate crime.

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ScreamingMeMe · 21/11/2022 19:02

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ScreamingMeMe · 23/11/2022 17:50

<waves to KJK>

Keep it up, you wonderful, woman.

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ScreamingMeMe · 23/11/2022 17:52

Oooh Datun got a mention.

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LexMitior · 23/11/2022 17:54

This is absolutely idiotic from a legal perspective. No she should not turn up.

I would let the relevant officer flap about with a properly specified complaint. And then I would attend with a solicitor.

Piss poor

Sequenca · 23/11/2022 17:56

I'm also bemused as to why she raised 40K, just to send a legal pre-action letter, and then settle with Nottingham Council. Not sure what happened to the rest of the funds, since no legal action letter should cost that much, even with the undoubtedly stellar cast of lawyers she had lined up to fight her case.

What exactly are you implying here?

BellaAmorosa · 23/11/2022 18:00

Delphinium20 · 23/11/2022 17:45

There's currently a constructive conversation started between Julie Bindel and Meghan Murphy - two feminists who disagree on some issues but wanted to debate in a more thoughtful manner. This is a productive use of time when women disagree over feminism. juliebindel.substack.com/p/can-feminist-causes-be-furthered

I know KJK doesn't call herself a feminist, and I think that's a shame. From everything she does she ACTS like a feminist. I think taking your balls home and going your own way might have been self-preservation in her mind, but I believe a lot of women would like to see some healthy, moderated and less-faction oriented disagreement. Sometimes it seems like it's a sorority matchup. JB and MM have both made mistakes, pissed people off and criticized tactics, just like KJK. Frankly, I wish they'd all get into a room, maybe invite Kara Dansky, and discuss what's working, what's not and how they can agree to shared goals.

I used to engage more in these debates but it makes me tired.

I so agree. We have to keep our eye on the prize. Prioritise common goals, appreciate each other's different strengths. KJK is most definitely a feminist IMO, but I can understand why she doesn't want to be associated with the term - so many women have brought shame on that label over the last 20 years.

Someone needs to tell these Labour feminists that this is a coalition of interests, a grassroots movement, and they are not in charge.

Kathleen Stock (who incidentally has a perfectly civil relationship with Helen Joyce who published her book around the same time and is in a very different place politically) was very comforting on her twitter account - she said this sort of infighting always happens and nobody has to take sides.

OmiOmy · 23/11/2022 18:05

ScreamingMeMe · 23/11/2022 17:52

Oooh Datun got a mention.

Woohoo 🙌🏻

geraniumsandsunshine · 23/11/2022 18:12

FemaleAndLearning · 21/11/2022 22:47

She did say men can't be lesbians. Which is the truth but maybe someone thinks it is a gotcha. It would be fab if it was that. Can you imagine the CPS trying to find evidence that men can be lesbians. Very excited for the next installment.

I bet Wiltshire police are non pleased. How long will Brighton police give to her to come down before they send Wiltshire out?

The clip is being shared widely in twitter too!

Yes cos if you are a trans woman you are denying you are a man! Oh it's so silly but so depressing. PP comes across strong but must be hard for her.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/11/2022 18:16

Some great comments about Mumsnet. Also very pleased to hear KJK say that she'll get in touch with Dennis Kavanagh who's offered to advise (he's just posted some excellent advice on the Police thread). And that she's alert to the danger of the police wanting to nick her devices to conduct a fishing expedition.

TinselAngel · 23/11/2022 18:18

I'm not telling Lang she got mentioned, her head is big enough already.

MoirasSaggyBundles · 23/11/2022 18:21

Whatever happened to Dittany?

Moonatics · 23/11/2022 18:21

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 23/11/2022 17:48

I used to engage more in these debates but it makes me tired.

I think we’re all getting tired. Let’s have a break.
I have Tunnocks, that feminist staple, & Daimbars (went to IKEA at the weekend.) Anybody want something?

Same, so very tired, so I have some lots of whisky, a fair amount of chocolate and the Christmas presents I've bought for people include, gin, mince pies, shortbread, chocolate, toffee vodka and fireball.
Also because I have 4 birthdays to cover from Christmas day til Jan 20th, I've got rose wine, red wine, more gin, bladnoch whisky and a box of biscuits.
Come over, help yourselves.
I make a lovely cake too, so let me know how many and I'll make enough cake.

TinselAngel · 23/11/2022 18:22

Sequenca · 23/11/2022 17:56

I'm also bemused as to why she raised 40K, just to send a legal pre-action letter, and then settle with Nottingham Council. Not sure what happened to the rest of the funds, since no legal action letter should cost that much, even with the undoubtedly stellar cast of lawyers she had lined up to fight her case.

What exactly are you implying here?

I asked Bindel if she'd like to divert a couple of hundred quid to Trans Widows Voices but was roundly ignored.

Yarnival · 23/11/2022 18:28

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 23/11/2022 17:48

I used to engage more in these debates but it makes me tired.

I think we’re all getting tired. Let’s have a break.
I have Tunnocks, that feminist staple, & Daimbars (went to IKEA at the weekend.) Anybody want something?

Ooh, daimbars, not had one of those for ages 😋

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 23/11/2022 18:29

TinselAngel · 23/11/2022 18:22

I asked Bindel if she'd like to divert a couple of hundred quid to Trans Widows Voices but was roundly ignored.

Shame. I think Trans Widows Voices is a bloody good cause that should get much more support from the movement than it does.

TheABC · 23/11/2022 18:31

I think we need Daim bar emoji to wheel out for when things turn heated.

BellaAmorosa · 23/11/2022 18:31

@EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead
I could murder a Tunnocks (if you mean the teacakes)

@MoirasSaggyBundles
🖐One for cake please.

That was a nice segment from KJK, thanks @ScreamingMeMe

CompleteGinasaur · 23/11/2022 18:31

Maybe Daimosaur emoji...I'll get my coat.

beastlyslumber · 23/11/2022 18:33

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 17:06

That's your opinion that you are entitled to.

Some women do view them as racist, are they not allowed to say so?

You're allowed to say what you like and others are allowed to call out your lies.

BellaAmorosa · 23/11/2022 18:34

CompleteGinasaur · 23/11/2022 18:31

Maybe Daimosaur emoji...I'll get my coat.

😂😂
Yo leave that coat on the hook, young lady!

CompleteGinasaur · 23/11/2022 18:34

BellaAmorosa · 23/11/2022 18:34

😂😂
Yo leave that coat on the hook, young lady!

Tee hee!

SapphosRock · 23/11/2022 18:50

Does anyone remember a poster called Daimbars?

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 23/11/2022 18:56

Now you mention it. Wasn’t she the TRA who kept going on about wanting to go to events & meet Mumsnetters IRL?

ArabellaScott · 23/11/2022 18:57

'this is about forcing the issue into the public domain' - yes. Thank you.

EmpressaurusOfWitchesBackFromTheDead · 23/11/2022 18:57

At least, I’m assuming Daimbars was a she…

nauticant · 23/11/2022 19:01

I haven't read the whole thread and this might have been posted but in case not here's KJK being interviewed, being released just about now:

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