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New York - Let Women Speak tour - violent attacks, arrests

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ArabellaScott · 14/11/2022 20:32

twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1592248525555126272

Hoping everyone is okay.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2022 11:21

Although she has called me names to my face

Was that at boarding school in Hong Kong?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/11/2022 11:35

I agree with her.

So do I. I'm not going to tone police the righteous anger of women treated so appallingly.

VestofAbsurdity · 21/11/2022 11:41

It was shocking to hear all of it but and struck me was when he said "These men you say are fucking women - cos women are shit". The hatred there is palpable, even if we had already seen it action.

Better woman than women trope, they do utterly hate and envy women for the temerity of being born female.

These are the kind of people the Lib Fems and women who chant TWAW think we should accept into our spaces and services, who they think are so oppressed and vulnerable - men who hate women with every fibre of their being including those who are submissive to them and pushing their agenda.

beastlyslumber · 21/11/2022 11:47

Andy Ngo is so brave. He's another one who's been monstered by the left while - literally - putting his life on the line to report what's going on in the world. I hope he and his family feel safe in the UK.

Datun · 21/11/2022 11:52

I reckon that threatening message will be replayed over, and over, and over, there are so many levels of gobsmackedness.

And always, always accompanied by THIS is why women need their own spaces ^^

As I never tire of saying, transactivism is the biggest motivation for people to become gender critical.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/11/2022 12:39

Wow - so many red flags from that individual - that right side of history's very crowded with violent homophobic racist misogynists isn't it?

VestofAbsurdity · 21/11/2022 12:46

MrsOvertonsWindow · 21/11/2022 12:39

Wow - so many red flags from that individual - that right side of history's very crowded with violent homophobic racist misogynists isn't it?

Indeed. Look at all these people the TWAW, most oppressed, most vulnerable, you're all transphobic believers are aligning with, associating with, supporting, working with, etc. No wonder they don't want to do the let's look at the people on your side of the debate bit.

ArabellaScott · 21/11/2022 12:53

The. Best. School. In. Connecticut.

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Helleofabore · 21/11/2022 13:13

ArabellaScott · 21/11/2022 12:53

The. Best. School. In. Connecticut.

Says it all really.....

EndlessTea · 21/11/2022 13:37

Helleofabore · 21/11/2022 13:13

Says it all really.....

🤣 I was struck though, by how well versed he is in his elevator pitch.
I wish my self-promotion came to my lips so easily. 😂

Helleofabore · 21/11/2022 13:49

Endless

Some one has assured this person that they are teflon coated. They bragged about it in the audio clip. That the owner of Coach assured them they would be ok.

I suspect the reality will be that either Coach will be the only brand that will keep their services or that work will dry up with the release of that message on instagram. The reality will be very stark if that is the case because it seems that this person has built their entire persona on their identity by the sounds of what they say.

Just like the transitioned female who was topless beside them. They have now built their entire career on being a transitioned female model after being a child model.

I personally hope that their brands take them aside and tell them the truth, that it is never ok to have intimidated women, to spat at them and to have abused them. But I do not hold much hope that that will be the case...

OmiOmy · 21/11/2022 14:06

If he has no consequences for his behaviour and actions, what will he do next? Worrying thought. And actually, if there are no consequences for him, what will it encourage others to do?

IwantToRetire · 21/11/2022 15:44

Meanwhile over on AGCL in the past day there have been 5 posts share videos and tweet threads about KJK working with the right. And a post about Marion Millar being investigated.

Datun · 21/11/2022 15:48

Helleofabore · 21/11/2022 13:49

Endless

Some one has assured this person that they are teflon coated. They bragged about it in the audio clip. That the owner of Coach assured them they would be ok.

I suspect the reality will be that either Coach will be the only brand that will keep their services or that work will dry up with the release of that message on instagram. The reality will be very stark if that is the case because it seems that this person has built their entire persona on their identity by the sounds of what they say.

Just like the transitioned female who was topless beside them. They have now built their entire career on being a transitioned female model after being a child model.

I personally hope that their brands take them aside and tell them the truth, that it is never ok to have intimidated women, to spat at them and to have abused them. But I do not hold much hope that that will be the case...

I honestly can't imagine that there won't eventually be consequences.

Those clips of him abusing gay men, spitting at women and threatening a journalist are going to be played to Coach until they comment.

Being so over-the-top-overt in your misogyny, homophobia and violence doesn't tend to attract customers buying clothes.

Helleofabore · 21/11/2022 15:59

yes datun. Considering it is now a company on the stock exchange, I would think that this model's confidence that their mentor will be there to protect them will be shaken rather dramatically.

Delphinium20 · 21/11/2022 16:52

As I never tire of saying, transactivism is the biggest motivation for people to become gender critical.

Indeed. I've seen it up front and personal when former "be kind" women spend extra time with "those most vulnerable." That bit of cognitive dissonance still remaining is soon overrun by the glaring obvious truth.

ScreamingMeMe · 21/11/2022 19:03

Here we go again! How can she be so calm? I'd be raging or sobbing myself.

beastlyslumber · 21/11/2022 19:10

Holy shit. So someone's made an allegation and instead of looking into it, they're going to try to drag KJK down to Brighton for a "voluntary" interview - which if she declines to attend, she'll be arrested and forced to?

One for Fair Cop?

Bosky · 21/11/2022 19:18

ScreamingMeMe · 21/11/2022 19:03

Here we go again! How can she be so calm? I'd be raging or sobbing myself.

Well there is plenty of video covering the whole event at Brighton and I am sure most of us have watched all of it.

Hands up who spotted the incitement to hatred against persons of a sexual orientation of one sort or another?

Nope! I thought not.

Oh! Hang on! Has she been Untoward About Paedophiles again?? 😱

Those nitwits over at the AGCL FB Group are going to be wetting themselves with excitement. Someone airdrop an emergency supply of rubber knickers for them quick!

stealtheatingtunnocks · 21/11/2022 20:16

She will eviscerate them

Helleofabore · 21/11/2022 22:58

This is follow up from the treat to Andy Ngo .

” Coach rep states they're working on a statement, & he has been dropped from their company. I requested a rep to contact me with updates. She states #CoachNY does not condone #(name removed to avoid deletion) conduct”

twitter.com/seattleblocked/status/1594799896758194176?s=46&t=sgXwyZ4cftvcOIP5d0fmoA

Let’s see if an official statement is released and just what it says. This tweet could be making it up. But we should know soon.

Whoever that model thinks they are, I suspect they have drastically over estimated the power of their mentor in that company.

Bosky · 30/11/2022 15:00

Interesting development - The Socialist Workers Party (USA) has come out batting for KJK and #LetWomenSpeakUSA women against the "Antifa" thugs!

Should we start calling her "Red Kellie" now?

"Antifa assault is blow to fight for women’s emancipation"
BY VIVIAN SAHNER
The Militant, Vol. 86/No. 45

NEW YORK — A peaceful demonstration by women’s rights campaigners critical of gender ideology was attacked by antifa thugs and so-called trans activists here Nov. 14. Police arrested nine attackers after they surged against police barricades and hurled threats against the women.

The event was the last stop of a multicity “Let Women Speak” tour by Kellie-Jay Keen, a British women’s advocate and founder of Standing for Women. She was unable to get to the podium as dozens of antifa members surrounded the stage. As others spoke about women’s rights and the harmful impact of gender ideology imposed on children in many schools, an estimated 200 attackers screamed “Nazi scum,” made lewd sexual gestures and attempted to spit on the women.

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Keen had canceled an Oct. 25 tour stop in Portland, Oregon, after threats of violence, including one by an antifa leader who organized a fundraiser to buy weapons. The police refused to offer her any protection.

The following day in Tacoma, Washington, a Let Women Speak rally of 30 was disrupted by over 200 thugs. Some wore brass knuckles and attempted to slam female speakers to the ground. “We peaceably assembled for our free speech and we were mobbed,” Amy Sousa told the press. At least one woman had her fingers deliberately broken by an attacker.

There have been a series of similar attacks, and blows to constitutional rights, against women who defend the scientific fact that there are two distinct sexes, men and women. Without this, there is no way to chart a course toward women’s emancipation.

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On Oct. 30, Colombian writer Carolina Sanín posted comments on her website about the tension between feminism and transgenderism. After expressing support for the rights of transgender people, she said that “equating completely the identity of trans women with women who are born women erases the historical experience” of both groups.

It can reinforce gender stereotypes, she said. “Now girls feel that when they don’t adjust completely to what is expected of a girl or adolescent women, it means they are actually males.”

Five days later Almadía, a publisher that contracted the rights to publish two of Sanín’s novels in Mexico, canceled plans for publication, pointing to her “questioning of identity politics.”

“These attacks on the constitutional right to free speech and free assembly are a deadly danger to the working class,” Sara Lobman, who was the Socialist Workers Party’s 2022 candidate for U.S. Senate in New York, told the Militant. “The poisonous anti-science ‘identity politics’ and ‘cancel culture’ violence do damage to the scientific knowledge and free debate of ideas that are essential for the emancipation of women. And for building the unity that our class needs in the face of increased attacks by the bosses on our living and job conditions.”

Full article: themilitant.com/2022/11/26/antifa-assault-is-blow-to-fight-for-womens-emancipation/

Archived: archive.ph/SvGOW

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 30/11/2022 15:03

Crikey

when you see it written out it’s beyond shocking

socialist workers in both the UK and the US have shown themselves to be eminently sane on this issue. I’m wondering what has protected them as organisations?

Helleofabore · 30/11/2022 15:07

Thanks Bosky.

How interesting... And well... does this throw confusion in who she is 'aligned' with now?

IwantToRetire · 30/11/2022 15:19

I think SWP (UK) is fully TWAW. Only the Morning Star (of the left papers) has written in support of women's sex based writes.

Dont you remember the terrible treatment of Helen Steel, who of anybody you would think the so called left would listen to.

But really good news about the US Militant paper. I wonder what branch of socialism they are.

The UK Militant paper was Derek Hatten etc., and I see they are now the Socialist Party and were critical of WPUK's campaign.

I must remember to pop over to AGCL fb page and see how they react. Although I think they are minding their Ps & Qs since the threads on FWR. Only one attempt to smear PP by tangental association, ie being asked a question by a right winger!!

They are now going back to their US target of Karen Dansky.

What a said little unproductive life they lead.