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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What have people done when asked pronouns? (but are not trans ideologists)

185 replies

newbookonshelf · 13/11/2022 14:22

I've never been asked my pronouns but I wonder what I would say if I was. I WFH so never come up. I think I may say 'none' , 'you pick' , or maybe 'the' or simply 'what do you mean?'

So I'm just wondering how people do respond to this if they are not gender/trans ideologists. I'm looking for examples and what happened when you said it.

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Laneyy · 13/11/2022 23:39

PermanentTemporary · 13/11/2022 21:20

I'll be meeting someone at work tomorrow and I would never consider not using their preferred pronouns, but given the role of gender ideology in their life it does feel like colluding. Like telling someone that taking a medication overdose is a healthy way of managing their trauma.

So for me, I'd ignore it where I could and just say 'I don't know' if asked. It is so fucking painful to be forced into this gynophobia.

This would it be ethical to chop off someone's healthy limb because they believe they should be an amputee ? Why is mutilation of young vulnerable people acceptable? The people enabling this have a lot to answer for. You can mutilate yourself as much as you want but you can never change your DNA. I think more counselling is needed much more.

Dontaskdontget · 13/11/2022 23:42

“When you’re talking to me, I suggest you say ‘you/your’ but when talking to others about me you feel free to say whatever you like I’m a huge fan of free speech.”

Sparklybutold · 13/11/2022 23:43

I have either stated ‘i was born female’ or left blank if no option to write in the box.

Gwdihooooo · 13/11/2022 23:45

I don’t understand the responses? Surely if you’re female you say she and if you’re male you say he?…. Would any of you refused to answer if asked this question 10yrs ago, or is it just because the world has recently gone mad with the trans craze?

Gwdihooooo · 13/11/2022 23:47

I guess I would just say she. Or ‘isn’t it obvious?’

MumOnAMountain · 13/11/2022 23:48

I find it interesting that this is probably because those men who seek to pass as women - likely the vast majority - have failed to do so. They do not pass as women. And they are being very naturally referred to by others as "he/him", because that's what they are, and appear to be. And those particular men are now having a huge mantrum about it and are now insisting on foisting their obsession on all of the rest of us, regardless of our own view, and trying to force us all to play along.

No. Leave me out of it, mate.

DdraigGoch · 13/11/2022 23:48

Painterpallette · 13/11/2022 17:03

'Eh?'

That's my go-to too. Before looking at the questioner in the same manner I would look at them if they asked me to state my species or asked my opinion on whether the Pope is Catholic.

Livinginanotherworld · 13/11/2022 23:50

FluffyCat17 · 13/11/2022 17:47

‘Gender is a social construct rooted in misogyny and my right to that belief is protected under the Equalities Act’.

It’s a bit long-winded I know and I haven’t been asked yet, just quietly not added them to my email unlike practically everyone else at my work. On a zoom training we were encouraged to add them to our screen name but nobody chased me when I didn’t.

I am still looking for a punchier one. I do like fck and orf.

Pinching this one 👍

Gwdihooooo · 13/11/2022 23:53

MumOnAMountain · 13/11/2022 23:48

I find it interesting that this is probably because those men who seek to pass as women - likely the vast majority - have failed to do so. They do not pass as women. And they are being very naturally referred to by others as "he/him", because that's what they are, and appear to be. And those particular men are now having a huge mantrum about it and are now insisting on foisting their obsession on all of the rest of us, regardless of our own view, and trying to force us all to play along.

No. Leave me out of it, mate.

Thank you

BreastedBoobilyToTheStairs · 13/11/2022 23:54

'What are your pronouns?' 'Sex-based, like my oppression' is still my favourite, although I'm not sure I'd be confident enough to use it in the work place!

RosesAndHellebores · 13/11/2022 23:58

My pronouns are "I" and "me". You may call me Roses.

CheesyBeans1 · 14/11/2022 00:37

I'm sorry, I'm not ready to disclose them yet, and I find this conversation really triggering

Almostwelsh · 14/11/2022 00:46

"You can use whatever you like, I'm not bothered"

MumOnAMountain · 14/11/2022 00:46

CheesyBeans1 · 14/11/2022 00:37

I'm sorry, I'm not ready to disclose them yet, and I find this conversation really triggering

Yes, this is another good answer, too!

JFDIYOLO · 14/11/2022 00:56

I like
'I abstain - I don't agree with forcing people to either out themselves or retreat into lying about themselves before they're ready '

xJ0y · 14/11/2022 01:01

If I'm asked to do this at work I'm going to say "oh no thank you!" like I've been offered a slice of dry brack.

SomePosters · 14/11/2022 01:05

I am someone who has been misgendered throughout my life so I just assume they aren’t sure and answer the question. She/her please.

It’s feels more polite than ‘what are you?’ Which I’ve had on many occasion and much less awkward than ‘give that to the nice maaaa…laaaay… person’

when I can’t be arsed with that I dress the part with eye catching earrings or dramatic skirts and suddenly I pass casual muster as woman again. People are very basic when it comes right down to it.

OtterOnToast · 14/11/2022 06:46

My pronouns are 'oops' and 'sorry' and I identify as an inconvenience?

I don't know. If asked I'd just laugh and say 'are you serious?'

Tontostitis · 14/11/2022 06:56

Tbf I'm old and don't care but it won't make you friends to give smart answers in the work place so just ignore the question as being utterly beneath you.

BlooDeBloop · 14/11/2022 07:06

I'd ignore. After that I'd say 'in case it isn't obvious I'm female' and leave it like that 🤷‍♂️

picklemewalnuts · 14/11/2022 07:44

I was asked in a health care setting (I was patient).

She said, 'I'm sorry, I have to ask this, but- what are your pronouns, like she, he?'.

I said, 'I'm sorry you have to ask that, it's rubbish and a waste of your time. She/her.'

And we rolled our eyes, together.

sourdoughismyreligion · 14/11/2022 08:31

I was asked to include pronouns as part of my company bio. I didn't. Gave them the rest of the information asked, the stuff that is actually relevant for my role but didn't include the non-essential bit of information. I don't know if it was anything to do with my refusal to comply but when our bios did appear on the website, pronouns were not included for anyone.

If I were asked in a meeting or face to face, I think I would just ignore the question. It's bizarre to think you can control how others refer to you when you're not there (or even if you are there). If I had the power to put words in other people's mouths, I wouldn't settle for something as trivial as pronouns, I'd insist that people only describe me using specific adjectives, namely 'intelligent', 'witty', and 'wise'.

Beowulfa · 14/11/2022 09:05

Same response as to chuggers; a beatific smile and a firm "no thank you".

Alltheprettyseahorses · 14/11/2022 09:44

'What? Pronouns? What do you mean? What? Why? I don't get you! What are you on about?' continue as long as necessary and all said in my broadest Scouse. Proponents of extremely niche class-based fads should not expect knowledge or indeed acknowledgement of or the slightest interest in their little cultural affectations and shibboleths outside their tiny circles and it's kindest to let them know that rather than play along with their conceits. Otherwise they'll think it's mainstream and acceptable when it certainly isn't.

ArabellaScott · 14/11/2022 09:45

I've just ignored, when it's been asked on forms etc. No issues.

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