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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

To feel incredibly sorry for Eddie Izzard

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ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:31

I don't want to pity Eddie but I felt a wave of sadness after reading that Rosie Duffield (MP) said she would rather be arrested than refer to Eddie as a woman.

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EdgeOfACoin · 27/10/2022 20:40

ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:37

He is gender fluid, I believe.
I suppose I felt sorry for him because I can't imagine how difficult it must be to identify as one gender and have lots of people tell you that you're not.

I'm not sure what my internal gender is.

How do I find out?

It's not adhering to stereotypes, is it? (Likes cars and beer: manly gender; likes cooking and dresses: womanly gender)

Please could you explain?

PizzaTonight · 27/10/2022 20:40

Eddie Izzard is not a woman and I will never view him as one or call him one.

This isn’t The Emperor’s New Clothes.

tactum · 27/10/2022 20:41
  1. Eddie is not a woman.
  2. Watch the video where he expresses being in 'boy model and 'girl model depending on what he's wearing - apart from anything as if heels should define how you feel.
  3. Being GC is not a shame and not transphobic
  4. Feel far more sorry for the teenage girls he took great delight in bullying in the ladies toilets
ArcticSkewer · 27/10/2022 20:41

ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:37

He is gender fluid, I believe.
I suppose I felt sorry for him because I can't imagine how difficult it must be to identify as one gender and have lots of people tell you that you're not.

But then the next day they would be right again? That's gender fluid for you - some days Eddie feels like a man, some days Eddie feels like a woman.
So Rosie would be 50% correct any random day in any case.
And if she misgendered Eddie one day, then the next day she would be correctly gendering Eddie.

tactum · 27/10/2022 20:41

Mode not model

gamerchick · 27/10/2022 20:41

ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:33

I didn't know that. That seems a shame.

Hmm

Screen shot alert?

FurAndFeathers · 27/10/2022 20:41

ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:37

He is gender fluid, I believe.
I suppose I felt sorry for him because I can't imagine how difficult it must be to identify as one gender and have lots of people tell you that you're not.

But he doesn’t identify as one gender.

derxa · 27/10/2022 20:42

Thank god for women like Rosie Duffield

poshme · 27/10/2022 20:42

@gamerchick well yes. Isn't there form?

Awesomeo · 27/10/2022 20:42

There's no such thing as internal gender. I drink beer and wear dungarees, and as a child I wanted to be a ninja turtle.

I have a vagina so I'm a woman. None of the above makes me male.

Gender stereotypes have fucked us all up.

ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:42

I can assure people it wasn't goady. I just heard about Rosie and wanted to share. If everyone on MN supports Rosie, that's absolutely fine by me. I just felt sorry for Eddie, that's all. Not that it matters, I spose.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 27/10/2022 20:42

ColdstreamAnnie · 27/10/2022 20:37

He is gender fluid, I believe.
I suppose I felt sorry for him because I can't imagine how difficult it must be to identify as one gender and have lots of people tell you that you're not.

But that’s not what Eddie believes

eddie has 2 modes - girl mode and boy mode and he switches between the 2 as he chooses

(Eddie has said he is happy with ppl not using female pronouns fir him)

how nice that Eddie can switch into boy mode for acting as there are many roles for late middle aged men and not be stuck in girl mode when there are comparatively few roles for late middle aged women

eddie is not a woman

SellingFairytales · 27/10/2022 20:42

What does it mean to identify as a gender?

Are you saying that people who like make up or traditionally female activities must be women? That sounds like a very old fashioned view of the world to me.

Amarette · 27/10/2022 20:42

So the OP feels "incredibly sorry" for Eddie not bring referred to as a woman WHILST USING MALE PRONOUNS FOR HIM.

IsThePopeCatholic · 27/10/2022 20:42

Eddie used to be a transvestite, ie, a man who enjoyed wearing stereotypical women’s clothes. Why doesn’t he call himself that anymore?

HRTQueen · 27/10/2022 20:43

well it’s a biological fact he isn’t an adult female human so why pretend he is 🙄

last read he had girly days wtf does that even mean he has period cramps, he is going through the menopause or is concerned his high heels may not match his lipstick

PoseyFlump · 27/10/2022 20:43

@ColdstreamAnnie Please could you watch Jordan Gray on Friday Night Live singing (pay close attention to the lyrics) and playing piano with 'her' penis then come back and tell us how oppressed you think Eddie and Jordan are?

TimeAtTheBar · 27/10/2022 20:43

I cannot believe I’ve been deleted for stating the actual immutable fact that Eddie Izzard is a man.

🤡🤡🤡🤡

Rainbowshit · 27/10/2022 20:43

I'm with Rosie. Thought when he said "they're not women's clothes their mine" that was ground breaking. Smashing gender stereotypes.

Now he's claiming he's actually a woman I have no respect.

RJnomore1 · 27/10/2022 20:44

Did ye, aye?

ghostyslovesheets · 27/10/2022 20:44

Gender is an oppressive social construct designed to keep men and women in their place (men on top btw) for an entitled white male - supposedly left leaning - to buy into such toxic shit tells you all you need to know

Gender isn;t a bloody thing - SEX is though

tigger1001 · 27/10/2022 20:44

I don't think I could refer to Eddie izzard as a woman either.

It takes more than high heels to make a woman a woman. I don't wear high heels, but I'm still all woman.

Luredbyapomegranate · 27/10/2022 20:44

Why? She doesn’t think Eddie is a woman. People have different views.

Eddie strikes me as a confident person who doesn’t need pity from a randomer.

Amarette · 27/10/2022 20:44

I feel incredibly sorry for the rape victims, women prisoners, vulnerable women amd girls in hospital wards, toilets and changing rooms being forced to accept MEN in their single sex spaces and being arrested when they resist.

comfyoldcardi · 27/10/2022 20:44

I feel sorry for the teenage girls he harassed in the ladies toilet. He was perfectly happy to describe himself as a transvestite back in the 70s and 80s. Now he has just jumped on the current bandwagon because he has spotted further opportunities to go into women's single sex spaces and take opportunities from women.

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