She played the piano with her penis

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So I am told anyway. I can't bring myself to watch it. Has anyone been brave enough?

Can't seem to link to the article. It's in the DM

better than us at being hairless too😆

My comment was deleted - is it because I said he about a man with a penis? Genuinely confused by this.

Sorry MN, it’s almost as offensive as..I don’t know..someone flashing?

Yeah no

well I was deleted for using sex based pronouns re Eddie Izard, despite their stating they're not bothered so anythings possible

How odd. I said something the same upthread and it was left to stand.

What's the criteria?

Hurty feelz?

Apparently they visit schools for education purposes and are about to open a show at the london palladium I think .

Careful Hooty, my first ever deletion was for the exact phrase "hurty feelz". I enquired and was told it was "not in the spirit". The rules are, it seems to me, arbitrary and inconsistently applied

Nudity on Post-watershed TV shows isn't anything new.

Anyone remember Eurotrash?

That "right side of history" has some vile people on it doesn't it?

Warning - links contain details of criminal offences and how indecent exposure is a gateway crime to murder:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/378f75fe-517a-11ed-9137-92183a3ffe2c?shareToken=e4b8a7e19f244b6319b765b9ad9375bd

rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/types-of-sexual-violence/what-is-indecent-exposure-or-flashing/#:~:text=The%20Sexual%20Offences%20Act%202003,to%20two%20years%20in%20prison.

👆this

But nudity on post-watershed shows is still warned for. As seen on twitter, here's the All4 guidance for Friday Night Live, and the guidance for episodes of other shows that have featured nudity. Spot the odd one out.

Have Channel 4 responded to the criticism and furore at all? Has Ben Elton made any mention?

Oh my goodness - what did those poor children do to deserve this?! Tedious doesn't even begin to cover it. (And on international women's day!!!) What struck me is just how boring this whole 'trans rights movement ' is. Women's rights, gay rights, civil rights, there are so many fascinating stories of inspirational characters who sacrificed a great deal and focused on making life better for others. The trans movement is so focused on putting the individual and their special feelings at the centre that there really is very little except confected 'I'm so marginalised' feelings or shock tactics, pushing boundaries and aggression to keep them feeling engaged in the 'struggle''. They're desperate for people in what is actually an incredibly liberal society to hate them so they have something to push against. Jordan Grey's whole act is based on being trans ( I do find the 'transaction' videos on YouTube funny and cleverer than the song) but once all the jokes have been made it all gets very boring.

Dear god. My local road sweeper would be more interesting to listen to.

International women's day is just insulting.

The trans movement is so focused on putting the individual and their special feelings at the centre that there really is very little except confected 'I'm so marginalised' feelings or shock tactics, pushing boundaries and aggression to keep them feeling engaged in the 'struggle''. They're desperate for people in what is actually an incredibly liberal society to hate them so they have something to push against. Jordan Grey's whole act is based on being trans ( I do find the 'transaction' videos on YouTube funny and cleverer than the song) but once all the jokes have been made it all gets very boring.

This.

But nudity on post-watershed shows is still warned for. As seen on twitter, here's the All4 guidance for Friday Night Live, and the guidance for episodes of other shows that have featured nudity. Spot the odd one out.

That's bad.

I do find the 'transaction' videos on YouTube funny and cleverer than the song

I did too. Perhaps because there are other people involved so it's not just narcissistic monologuing.

thecritic.co.uk/a-dick-move/

Apologies if this has already been posted.

ironic sexism is a new term for me. It does encapsulate this well I think.

And they're not afraid to poke fun at themselves and highlight some truths, for example when they tell their friend off because his dog doesn't respect Jordan's transgender status ( the dog likes men and still likes Jordan!). The song would have been much funnier if Jordan had said they were better than men as well as women and portrayed themselves as a kind of hybrid! I think it's playing to a certain misogynistic audience and the pandering to the TRA line of I'm a woman with a penis and I'm better than women which is why it ultimately falls flat for me.

Thanks for posting this. Terrific article. Articulates all the things I think about the performance and the wider issue, SO much better than I ever could.

It was suitable for 16 and 17 year olds?

Righty-o

Has Sally Hines take on the nudity been posted? Apparently the performance wàs good as it "demystifies and deshames the female penis"

Https://twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1584662400636444673

Thanks for the link, fantastic article. So so true about male behaviour, relating current male attitudes and 90's "lad" attitudes. Plus ça change unfortunately.