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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

JK Rowling's New Friends

148 replies

PerkyBlinder · 18/10/2022 18:03

Just been sent this video after I said I thought JK is pretty fierce and I have a lot of respect for her.

My initial feeling is it's a big smear campaign and much may be false or exaggerated? Not sure what to respond to them. Is there a quick way to debunk all or much of it?

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LaughingPriest · 20/10/2022 18:40

tig101 · 20/10/2022 15:17

imagine making excuses for someone who platforms and publicly praises people who are homophobes, anti abortion campaigners , far right reactionaries, Christian conservatives, paedophile apologists, fascists and down right neo-Nazis just because they agree on one subject. yes all your key buzz word types are involved with her.

imagine then denying thats happening.

In Germany we had a saying that if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

it as true today as it was then.

At least you explicitly acknowledge you are imagining this, I suppose... Grin

Imagining things can be fun. Personally I like to imagine positive things, but if you're all about the Nazis, I guess that's your own business.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 20/10/2022 18:40

Ahh sorry meant to type Pakistani Government. I don’t know the policy of the Palestinian government towards homosexuals.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 20/10/2022 18:59

People TRAs are in bed with:

solvealltheproblems.wordpress.com/2022/10/20/supporters-of-gender-self-id-are-complicit-in-rape/

I think this article is the best and only response this “alignment” crap deserves.

MagnificentJK · 20/10/2022 20:32

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TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 20/10/2022 21:10

Libelling a billionaire to own the TERFs, a very intelligent move.

Moonatics · 21/10/2022 09:28

tig101 · 20/10/2022 15:17

imagine making excuses for someone who platforms and publicly praises people who are homophobes, anti abortion campaigners , far right reactionaries, Christian conservatives, paedophile apologists, fascists and down right neo-Nazis just because they agree on one subject. yes all your key buzz word types are involved with her.

imagine then denying thats happening.

In Germany we had a saying that if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

it as true today as it was then.

Imagine being on a platform (mumsnet bit like a table but online) with t@rfs* talking to them, I didn't count but i think theres 20 of us, add another cos here is tig101 joining us at this table.

Sorry tig, your little anecdote just worked against you.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 21/10/2022 09:40

Is the Oasis Trust considered a Christian organisation? Steve Chalke etc?

From what I know it is.

ApocalipstickNow · 21/10/2022 13:55

are you just taking the piss with paedophile apologists? Because it seems like it.

NotTerfNorCis · 21/10/2022 18:21

Listened to the first couple of minutes.

Magdalene had fierce and strong opinions because she was angry. As a lesbian she was furious at the 'cotton ceiling' thinking behind genderism. She was active at the time when Michfest, the lesbian festival, was shut down by TRAs. I personally don't see anything wrong with her most infamous comments. Backing Milo does seem a bit counter intuitive, but it was at a time when genderism was very fashionable on the left and there weren't many left-wingers willing to speak out.

Smilelesstalkmore · 21/10/2022 20:29

I don't know why TRAs think that Magdalen Berns 'pathetic sick fucks' tweet is such a gotcha? Aidan Comerford references it several times a week and has been doing so for years, give it up dude, no one cares!

She had 17 thousand tweets on her account, and this is the only one they can find as evidence for what a terrible person she was. She was being harassed by TRAs who gave her non stop shit, and she was rude to them. So what? There was nothing threatening in that tweet, there is nothing violent about it, it is just a woman insulting someone in a rude way. I guess men just don't expect women to stand up for themselves in that way, because women are always supposed to 'be kind'.

Smilelesstalkmore · 21/10/2022 20:33

tig101 · 20/10/2022 15:17

imagine making excuses for someone who platforms and publicly praises people who are homophobes, anti abortion campaigners , far right reactionaries, Christian conservatives, paedophile apologists, fascists and down right neo-Nazis just because they agree on one subject. yes all your key buzz word types are involved with her.

imagine then denying thats happening.

In Germany we had a saying that if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

it as true today as it was then.

Oh come on - you are going to have to name names here. Who in each of these groups has JKR 'platformed and publicly praised'?

And no, sending a message of female solidarity to a woman who was relentlessly harassed online and in real life, who happens to be against abortion, doesn't count I'm afraid.

Smilelesstalkmore · 21/10/2022 20:37

In Germany we had a saying that if there’s a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis.

it as true today as it was then.

Mermaids appointed a man who is, at best, a paedophile apologist, as one of their trustees. Does that make Mermaids a paedophile organisation? Does that make you a paedophile apologist? Does that make all TRAs and trans people paedophile apologists?

Interesting...

user1469001546 · 23/12/2022 10:33

As you can see from the answers to your question, which do not offer any debunking at all, the video is un-debunkable because the facts are the facts: Rowling is palling around with the far right these days. Unfortunately TERFism leads inevitably to being fash-adjacent.

user1469001546 · 23/12/2022 10:43

Which group is the only other group of people who hates trans people as much as ‘gender criticals’?

DarkDayforMN · 23/12/2022 10:45

Oh give over dude, no one cares about your video and you won't find many if any women here are nice enough to waste their time watching it to "refute" it.

And your ass does not count as.a valid source for facts.

user1469001546 · 23/12/2022 10:46

He’s simply pointing out which specific American evangelical fascists Rowling is literally, factually palling around with these days. She’s associated HERSELF with those things.

beastlyslumber · 23/12/2022 10:48

Oh give over.

LaughingPriest · 23/12/2022 10:49

Oh no, people are next to other people.

'literally palling' oh shit!

This is all they have, people. Welcome to MN user, pal around here a bit more and you'll find loads of people that will agree with you on many things.

DarkDayforMN · 23/12/2022 10:51

He’s simply pointing out which specific American evangelical fascists Rowling is literally, factually palling around with these days. She’s associated HERSELF with those things.

So name them. If there was information you deem important and valuable in the video why didn't you convey it in any of your three recent comments?

What is this bizarre compulsion. men have to waste women's time?

TheKeatingFive · 23/12/2022 10:51

It's not JKR's fault that the left have parted company with scientific literacy, child safeguarding and women's rights. That's all on the them.

I hope that helps.

TheKeatingFive · 23/12/2022 10:53

No debate has failed as a tactic.

This is all they've got now. FAR RIGHT SMEARS.

Its pathetic and not worth giving the time of day to.

Argue your position in good faith or accept it's bankrupt.

LaughingPriest · 23/12/2022 11:23

I pal around with TONS of Lefty people. By this logic, they all now think that men aren't women. And that will take hold in the Left people they pal around with.

Is that the sort of people that user thinks have the correct beliefs?

Blister · 23/12/2022 17:54

No one I know who is gender critical hates trans people. Saying it repeatedly doesn't make it true.

Dress however you please.

Have sex with whoever consents to it.

but sex is real and immutable and
sometimes single sex spaces are required.

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