JK Rowling's New Friends

[PerkyBlinder]

Just been sent this video after I said I thought JK is pretty fierce and I have a lot of respect for her.

My initial feeling is it's a big smear campaign and much may be false or exaggerated? Not sure what to respond to them. Is there a quick way to debunk all or much of it?

Some bollocks re a "sending hugs x" message to Caroline Farrow who is a Catholic and is opposed to abortion and gay marriage. Which obv JK is totes on board with as she hasn't apologised/ condemned CF/ self flagilated

The context was that Caroline was tweeting about being targeted by trans activists and JKR was offering sympathy and solidarity for that.

"far right Christian fascists"

Jeez, couldn't you get any more word salad in there? I'm sure there was room for a 'racist' or two. You could probably have fitted in an 'eeevul' as well.

Obviously, far-right fascist isn't as much of an oxymoron as it used to be, given we now have a fine collection of far-left fascists. And using 'Christian' as an insult does give away far more about your prejudices than it does the people you're insulting. But ... nope, sorry, that's a really poor effort.

The more truth JKR speaks, the more frantic and petulant the TRAs get.

Did you know an anagram of Joanne Kathleen Rowling* reads I SPIT ON THE FACE OF TRANS PEOPLE AND ONCE KICKED A KITTEN FOR A DARE.

*some letters are self-identifying as other letters

Ah so you're not allowed to express sympathy to Christian's. Got it. Are Muslims okay?

some letters are self-identifying as other letters

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What a pathetic , desperate load of crock.

This is basically the rebuttal in full to that video, isn't it?

Sending a video of someone else's opinions to answer a question is pathetic.

What does your acquaintance agree with here, exactly? All of it? Why? What evidence do they have to back this up?

What classes as "aligning with"?

You're posting on this board, which according to you would no doubt be transphobic, therefore you're aligning with it and you're transphobic.

That's how it works, right?

AH WOULD NEVER LIE IN BED WI ANY BASIC NEO NAZI

You're posting on this board, which according to you would no doubt be transphobic, therefore you're aligning with it and you're transphobic

Yup...fact

PPs above have kindly taken the trouble of watching it and giving us a summary. So I’m not wasting any time on this misogynist’s tedious mansplaining.

Of course!

And have you read theshocking revelations on the ‘All the bad things JKR has done’ thread?

Have to say I am bothered by the links some people in the movement have to the religious right in America. I think it would be awful to align too closely with them and forget we're fighting them over abortion rights.

oh god it’s like ground hog day!! 🤪

@lifeissweet
I'm a GC feminist or Team JK.
I'm saying the video is a load of shite and whoever gave it to OP /made it is a pathetic toerag.

Very rare response in this thread, did any of the people refusing to watch the video listen to the bit at the end? Where he points out these misogynist, homophobic organistions are paying people to work 24/7 to remove women's rights. To undo a century of feminism. Then lots of very prominent "Gender Critical" people are openly working with them, Caroline Farrow is one of those working to undo women's hard won rights.

If you won't listen to him, can you empathise with Angela Wild of "Get the L out", in my mind one of the most extreme "GC" groups. She's extremely concerned by the infiltration of far right groups into "GC" activism. Not so easy to dismiss her view I'd guess?

I know! I was saying it was the perfect response! That's all that needs to be said.

OMG OOLON THATS PURE DISGUSTANG

Caroline Farrow isn’t Gender Critical. People who don’t think TWAW are a broad and diverse grouping that includes almost everyone who ever lived.

PerkyBlinder, it mirrors what this other TRA has been saying about this movement, which at times made me really sad and concerned to hear.

Be warned, it is a very long series! These TRAs can never seem to be brief! XD

Anyway, I think it’s disgusting that (by the TRA Alignment Principle) oolon thinks that lesbians are sexual racists, that child safeguarding is a transphobic dogwhistle, that male penis having rapists should be allowed in women’s prisons and that rape threats are accountability.

How about you disavow all those points of view, oolon? How about you get “out of bed” with all the creeps and rapists you’re “aligned with?”

I’ll go first; I think Caroline Farrow is wrong about abortion.

now you. Do you disavow all the above statements that people you’re “aligned with” have said? I’ve got loads more once you’re finished disavowing those!

Don't worry, I've got fuck all links with 'the religious right in America'.

Just wondering though. Where's the line?

Is it actually OK though now for people to be American? Is it ok for them to be maybe a bit religious, as per their upbringing? Is being Jewish or Methodist wrong now? Is it wrong now to vote for the 'other guy' in a democratic society?

The whole 'aligning with the far right' thing is getting very old.

People who believe in biology and want to protect children from gender ideology are not in a 'movement'. There is no Gender Critical collective with a manifesto. We don't all sign up to one particular campaign or join one Gender Critical political party. We have no leaders. We are individuals with one shared belief. That's it.

So if some 'GC' people allow someone from
The far right to speak to them, or film them that doesn't tarnish everything. We can't be collectively responsible for what some people - who share that one single belief - do.

I am not about to go around condemning people who I have nothing to do with except agree on one issue.

I have no problem with Caroline Farrow. I am not in a 'tribe' with her. I am an atheist, pro-choice, leftie feminist. She is not my problem to go around 'condemning' we agree on one thing, we disagree on almost all else. I will do my thing, she will do hers... I don't 'align' with her in general. Neither will I 'condemn' her.

Where does that end? Who else to I need to start making statements to distance myself from? 'Oh crap. The Taliban know what a woman is. People might think I 'align' with them. Better publicly condemn. Who else?... Trump! Better make sure everyone knows I condemn him. Matt Walsh is a misogynist... but he agrees on gender. I had better publicly condemn him! ... ' and on and on...

I was at Brighton. I had no idea HoO were there. I'm not happy that they were, but it was a free, public event. I've no idea how anyone would have stopped them (and on what grounds). I also don't 'align' with PP on some things, but she facilitates conversations and there were lots of women there who had interesting stories to share. It was a great event. I'm glad I went. I still do not align with the far right because there were some arseholes there.

What are we expected to do? What is JKR expected to do? Publish a list of approved allies?

To me, the risk is that by seeming to stand alongside some dodgy groups because your views coincide with theirs on one issue, you become easier to dismiss. There are genuine concerns over some of the stuff being used as teaching materials in schools ATM. Gender critical feminists believe they’re potentially damaging to children. These groups say the same, but they also say that sex education in schools is damaging to children or any sex education that isn’t abstinence only or that mentioning homosexuality at all is damaging to children. Those groups are obviously loons and bigots and anyone standing too close to them gets labelled too. The very real concern that girls who don’t feel comfortable with their bodies or don’t feel like they fit female gender stereotypes are being led down a one way path to transition is too important to get lost in the rants of the Christian Right.

If you won't listen to him, can you empathise with Angela Wild of "Get the L out", in my mind one of the most extreme "GC" groups.

You should go and tell your buddies you're aligned with Angela on this issue. It's making our point for us.