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Eddy Izzard uses ladies loo in Sheffield.

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 01/10/2022 11:25

Jean Hatchett article on Eddy Izzard attending a Labour Sheffield fundraiser, uses women's toilets, run up to his election as a candidate, uses women's toilets while there.

thecritic.co.uk/eddie-izzard-uses-the-ladies-loo-in-sheffield/

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Xoxoxoxoxoxox · 01/10/2022 14:08

Eddie Izzard is transgender. She uses female pronouns, and I would have no problem using the loo whilst she or any other transgender woman was in there. I usually lock the cubicle door!

Yes but you have to come out from the cubicle and walk out don't you, if there is a transgender woman there who is physically male it is a fact that male offending rates do not go down if a man transitions.
That's why safeguarding was put there originally wasn't it in prisons, toilets and changing rooms, because it would attract sexual predatory behavior from men.

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BatteryPoweredMammy · 01/10/2022 14:08

This is who Labour should choose as their next candidate although I doubt he’d want to represent them in their Woke phase.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magid_Magid

TheClogLady · 01/10/2022 14:12

EmmaH2022 · 01/10/2022 14:03

Sure Labour can find a better candidate?

Maybe Izzard thinks Izzard can weasel in up there due to Sheffield Labour’s spectacularly awful previous choice of candidate?

(although I think he was in the other Sheffield seat?)

www.independent.co.uk/topic/jared-omara

Eddy Izzard uses ladies loo in Sheffield.
Eddy Izzard uses ladies loo in Sheffield.
BloodAndFire · 01/10/2022 14:14

Chooksnroses · 01/10/2022 13:14

Eddie Izzard is transgender. She uses female pronouns, and I would have no problem using the loo whilst she or any other transgender woman was in there. I usually lock the cubicle door!

Did you miss the point that religious Muslim and Jewish women now don't have any facilities they can use?

Or is it just that you don't give a fuck about them?

MrsDoyle351 · 01/10/2022 14:20

Meh - so what.

I could not give one shit which toilet Eddie Izzard uses.

Not sure if you’re living in a bubble, but there are many more pressing matters than that.

Fizbosshoes · 01/10/2022 14:20

How does transgender differ from transvestite in Eddie's case?
Underneath the clothes/hair/make up is a man....which is convenient for when she wants to change to boy-mode....

Trollcity · 01/10/2022 14:21

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I agree with the majority here. I don't believe transsexuals, transgender people, transitioning people, non-biny, biological males should be allowed in what were once female only spaces - including loos, changing rooms or sports.

I also believe that anyone can dress how they want, use whatever pronouns they want and live their lives however they want as long as they are not harming anyone else. II think the people who want to exploit these places/situations for their own sexual gratification are in the minority. We can't make sweeping generalisations that all transgender people are sexual predators. But i accept that such people are out there.

BUT, what is the answer here? Do all organisations now have to provide a third option for where they may pee, change, compete? * *let's concentrate on the loo situation for now. If they continued using male public toilets, are they not also open to being abused, humiliated and exploited by the 'macho' men they will encounter?

It's OK for everyone to be outraged and voice their objection to such situations but I've not read anywhere what people think the solution is. This is going yo be an ongoing and growing situation so what are our options?

Handsoffmyrights · 01/10/2022 14:21

Chooksnroses · 01/10/2022 13:14

Eddie Izzard is transgender. She uses female pronouns, and I would have no problem using the loo whilst she or any other transgender woman was in there. I usually lock the cubicle door!

Oh that's ok then. Just to clarify, you think that anyone using female pronouns, regardless of their sex, means they should be able to access female only spaces?

How kind and inclusive you are. To men.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 01/10/2022 14:21

Oh I do so hope that Eddie gets in, because there are going to be a lot of sensible people who didn’t really know or understand what the fuss was about who are going to be very uncomfortable with it.
go Eddie! Go Lia,! Go Karen White, and that bald bloke who wants to play against women in Rugby, and Veronica Ivy or whatever name is being used this week, and the ball waxer in Canada. They are all on our side, really.

midsomermurderess · 01/10/2022 14:21

ehb102 · 01/10/2022 12:55

No man can expand the bandwidth of being a woman. He can only expand the bandwidth of being a man.

What does that mean? Looks like a pithy sound bite, but what does it mean?

TheClogLady · 01/10/2022 14:24

MrsDoyle351 · 01/10/2022 14:20

Meh - so what.

I could not give one shit which toilet Eddie Izzard uses.

Not sure if you’re living in a bubble, but there are many more pressing matters than that.

And we are more than capable of holding multiple topics in our heads at once.

interesting to see such callous disregard on a thread where women are talking about how this disproportionately impacts women from minority, orthodox religious backgrounds, those who have survived sexual assault and those who are sole caretakers of small children but I suppose you’ve got more important things to… post about on mumsnet 🙄

Live4weekend · 01/10/2022 14:26

Chooksnroses · 01/10/2022 13:14

Eddie Izzard is transgender. She uses female pronouns, and I would have no problem using the loo whilst she or any other transgender woman was in there. I usually lock the cubicle door!

Does using Female pronouns make him a woman?

Farmageddon · 01/10/2022 14:31

Trollcity · 01/10/2022 14:21

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I agree with the majority here. I don't believe transsexuals, transgender people, transitioning people, non-biny, biological males should be allowed in what were once female only spaces - including loos, changing rooms or sports.

I also believe that anyone can dress how they want, use whatever pronouns they want and live their lives however they want as long as they are not harming anyone else. II think the people who want to exploit these places/situations for their own sexual gratification are in the minority. We can't make sweeping generalisations that all transgender people are sexual predators. But i accept that such people are out there.

BUT, what is the answer here? Do all organisations now have to provide a third option for where they may pee, change, compete? * *let's concentrate on the loo situation for now. If they continued using male public toilets, are they not also open to being abused, humiliated and exploited by the 'macho' men they will encounter?

It's OK for everyone to be outraged and voice their objection to such situations but I've not read anywhere what people think the solution is. This is going yo be an ongoing and growing situation so what are our options?

Eh, sorry what?

The solution is not to take over women's spaces. If using men's toilets is a problem for men, they should campaign for a third space, not colonise women's designated spaces. Why are we always the ones to compromise, because men's feelings?

Male violence and intimidation is not women's problem to solve! They are exactly the reasons why women don't want men in our toilets, but apparently we're supposed to move over and make space or we're the ones being mean. Unbelievable.

TwoWrightFeet · 01/10/2022 14:32

Is no one else scared about the pervert taking photos of people using public loos?

NotTerfNorCis · 01/10/2022 14:32

Wow. I'm a Labour supporter and I think it's important they get into power, but if Eddie Izzard was our Labour candidate I'd really, really hesitate.

bellac11 · 01/10/2022 14:33

Live4weekend · 01/10/2022 14:26

Does using Female pronouns make him a woman?

Its more accurate to ask, does using female pronouns make someone less of a sex offender risk than not, if they have male biology

And the answer is no

TheClogLady · 01/10/2022 14:33

midsomermurderess · 01/10/2022 14:21

What does that mean? Looks like a pithy sound bite, but what does it mean?

It’s a reference to this:

www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/patrickstrudwick/this-transgender-woman-has-a-full-beard-and-she-couldnt-be-h

Alex and Eddie have lots in common. They both have typically-male (borderline unisex) names, use she/her pronouns and wear skirts and make up.

Both are male, and therefore cannot actually ‘widen the bandwidth of woman’, they can only ‘widen the bandwidth of man’.

if they could both stop with the colonising ladies loos and calling themselves woman/female/she etc, we might still give them the side eye (because of creepy red flags) but we wouldn’t need to discuss them.

They could ‘stay in their lane’ and we could stay in ours. They can wear whatever they want in their lane.

ClaudiusTheGod · 01/10/2022 14:34

Chooksnroses · 01/10/2022 13:14

Eddie Izzard is transgender. She uses female pronouns, and I would have no problem using the loo whilst she or any other transgender woman was in there. I usually lock the cubicle door!

@Chooksnroses
which part of the anatomy that he uses to pee with is transgender??

TheClogLady · 01/10/2022 14:35

TwoWrightFeet · 01/10/2022 14:32

Is no one else scared about the pervert taking photos of people using public loos?

being photographed outside the loo, standing under the ladies loo sign is hardly ‘using the loo’.

Jesus, I thought we were supposed to be the pearl-clutchers? Maybe the former cool girls are the new pearl clutchers now?

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FOJN · 01/10/2022 14:37

We can't make sweeping generalisations that all transgender people are sexual predators.

No one has ever made that claim. Activists like to misrepresent our concerns by presenting it that way but its a lie.

Eddie used to be a man in a dress and make up, the only thing that has changed is how Eddie identifies. How do you tell the difference between a sexual predator in a dress and make up and a transwoman when the only thing it takes to make someone a transwoman is their say so?

BUT, what is the answer here? Do all organisations now have to provide a third option for where they may pee, change, compete? let's concentrate on the loo situation for now. If they continued using male public toilets, are they not also open to being abused, humiliated and exploited by the 'macho' men they will encounter?

If women had the answer to male violence then there would be far fewer women murdered, raped and assaulted. When did solving men's problems also become our job? Many people have proposed the third option but trans activist won't accept that as a solution. You have to ask yourself why they would reject third spaces if their priority is safety? It's because safety is not the priority, women are tools used to validate TW gender identity.

LifeIsaRollerCoaster1 · 01/10/2022 14:38

Trollcity · 01/10/2022 14:21

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I agree with the majority here. I don't believe transsexuals, transgender people, transitioning people, non-biny, biological males should be allowed in what were once female only spaces - including loos, changing rooms or sports.

I also believe that anyone can dress how they want, use whatever pronouns they want and live their lives however they want as long as they are not harming anyone else. II think the people who want to exploit these places/situations for their own sexual gratification are in the minority. We can't make sweeping generalisations that all transgender people are sexual predators. But i accept that such people are out there.

BUT, what is the answer here? Do all organisations now have to provide a third option for where they may pee, change, compete? * *let's concentrate on the loo situation for now. If they continued using male public toilets, are they not also open to being abused, humiliated and exploited by the 'macho' men they will encounter?

It's OK for everyone to be outraged and voice their objection to such situations but I've not read anywhere what people think the solution is. This is going yo be an ongoing and growing situation so what are our options?

They'd have to have 4, men women, disabled and anyone else that isnt any of the above. This should go for toilet facilities, changing rooms and sports categories. It's the only way forward.

I don't want men in women's spaces, taking women's trophies or anything else. You can wear a dress and put makeup on if it makes you feel pretty I don't care, but I don't want a man in a dress in women's only spaces or taking a woman's place whether its Eddie Izzard or anyone else.

Florenz · 01/10/2022 14:40

I don't know why Labour have anything to do with Izzard, he drives away far more voters than he gains. He was damaging to the remain campaign too. People just think he's weird.

Trollcity · 01/10/2022 14:40

@Farmageddon

Read my post properly before you jump down my throat. I actually said, is that the solution, a third option? Why are you angry at me? Where was i suggesting that women had to compromise. Go on, copy and paste the part of my post where i said that.

I'm agreeing with everything everyone was saying. All I was saying is I'm reading a lot of anger or outrage on the subject but no-one suggesting what the solution might be so I suggested a possible solution. One you apparently agree with but you're so much up your own arse that you are obviously just angry at everyone! Wind your neck if you're not going to read and take into consideration other people's posts

ReneBumsWombats · 01/10/2022 14:42

midsomermurderess · 01/10/2022 14:21

What does that mean? Looks like a pithy sound bite, but what does it mean?

I think it means he can't become a woman, but can use his manhood to make claims over women's rights and spaces.

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