sarah ditum on Posie parker

[narcymum]

Just saw a tweet where she calls PP a 'poundshop marine le Pen'
WTF! why are women who are supposedly in this fight together actively trying to sabotage another woman's activism?
Can we not move away from this schoolyard shit?

Lol at the people who support the side of men who threaten women with rape, say they should die in grease fires, actively celebrated the death of a young woman with brain cancer & have wished death on PP children having a go at us about who we associate with

You’re probably correct when you say majority of Labour supporters. And it’s mostly extremists on the Left. But when I say Left I also include those who work for the Labour Party or even elected MPs who paint request for those things you listed as “right wing”. So my use of Left, capitalised, refers to those in positions of power.

Yep.

How can anyone know who anyone is on an anonymous Internet forum?

No one has attacked Discovereads, we simply pointed out that Discovereads is incapable of posting evidence that backs up Discovereads version of events.

Wearing a balaclava isn’t blackface.

HTH.

I am someone who doesn't exist. I like PP a lot but think she is far from perfect!

One concern I have always had (not a big one) is the lack of transparency over the t-shirt sales and stuff. I have no evidence she has done anything wrong, but, IMHO, good practice would be to say where the money goes... how much of the profit goes on campaigning? How much on things like costs she incurs when campaigning (eg lunch)? How much does she spend on handbags (quite possibly none)?

But the main reason I am posting is to ask you why you are posting? It seems to me that the most likely reason tis because you hope to convince people you are right. If you do, then perhaps you would care to listen to some advice?

I have watched a fair few of her videos and your representation of her does not in any way chime with my experience. This does not mean I think you're lying, but it does mean that I am not willing to spend the time looking for research I have not the slightest reason to believe exists.

If you want me to condemn KJK for these things then I need links to very specific things, because what you say seems to be completely wrong.

You have no obligation to provide evidence, but there is at least one mind you will not change without it, and I don't believe I am the only one.

And we had women only spaces decades ago. That's the whole point.

100%

This does not mean I think you're lying, but it does mean that I am not willing to spend the time looking for research I have not the slightest reason to believe exists

this

and again I’m not calling anyone a liar, if they say they saw something they did

but quite often on threads particular posters will say ‘poster A said this…’ and I’m like ‘oh my god what a dreadful thing to say, I don’t remember that’ and I’ll go and have a look and EVENTUALLY i find that no one said anything like that

so ive stopped…i need an actual link

Refuges etc? I'm sure women had to fight for them to exist 'decades ago'.

You do realise that plenty of black people think BLM is dangerous and harmful do;t you? Are they racist as well, or just stupid?

Or is it maybe that issues are complicated, BLM are not perfect, and even if they were perfect on issues of race then criticising them for other matter doesn;t mean you disagree with them on race?

So true.

So it turns out the far right takeover was a couple of randoms filming on their phones. No links to Posie Parker but links to prominent TRA Cursed E. I'm SURE there'll be apologies soon... probably about the same time the likes of toxic hypocrite Owen Jones condemns the constant TRA violence and racism.

I for one am glad PP is out campaigning. Labour Women's Declaration and WPUK are all but useless, kidding themselves or us Labour policy is changing when Labour has doubled down as well as platforming transactivists and smearing women who object. We need proper, woman-focused political campaigning that asserts our status as the equals we are, not weak libfem appeasement.

With a balaclava type built in hood, no?

They are called zentai suits, I believe!

www.google.co.uk/search?q=zentai+suits

How do you know this please? Any links?

That is you dishonesty 100% nailed to the mast and I will never listen to a word you say.

PP repeatedly says she is not a feminist, so how can you say she wishes to lead feminists?

This ^
it’s perfectly possible to both believe that black lives very much matter whilst also believing that BLM the organisation is rather bloody dodgy.

www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-02/black-lives-matter-leader-accused-of-stealing-10-million-from-organization

nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/04/black-lives-matter-6-million-dollar-house.html

eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2022/02/19/black-lives-matters-financial-management-raises-red-flags/6654831001/

Yea indeed. But it was understood they would be women only.

I think we can all safely agree that whether something is allowed to be posted on mainstream social media without getting deeted says absolutely nothing about whether it is good or horrific or somewhere in the middle.

The one he was weaing was a black "second skin" body suit with only the mouth cut out which accentuated his lips.

To speak. He was speaking. Nothing to do with "accentuating his lips" or similar rubbish.

character of those who wish to be leaders of we feminists

Kellie Jay Keen has said for years she is not a feminist.

She is not advocating to be a ‘leader’ of feminists. From what I have seen and listening to her live, she is not particularly positioning herself as a ‘leader’. She is doing her own thing, she invites other women to join in.

What is clear is that you seem to have some pretty deeply held prejudices about her, including some wrong interpretations and easily disproved facts.

So it turns out the far right takeover was a couple of randoms filming on their phones. No links to Posie Parker but links to prominent TRA Cursed E.

Where did you see this? I saw some tweets which indicated that the documentary film crew following KJK had been confused with the right wing group by people who weren't actually there.

The Mr menno being racist thing is just such a dud, I can't believe people are still trying it on. He was wearing a fucking nappy for God sake. Who, seriously, who on earth would go to a feminist rally wearing black face and a nappy? It's just desperate, risible nonsense.

i'm not surprised Posie Parker is getting criticised. Apparently 1000 people registered for her talk. There's no-one else out there who is doing this. Her popularity just increases.

Her entire raison d'être is to stop children being mutilated by a men's rights ideology. And she shows it up for what it is.

The posters feverishly trying to pick microscopic holes in her campaigning in order to discredit her are beneath contempt.

it's telling, too, that people challenging the blatant prejudice towards her are met with oh my God, you worship her!

When normal fairness is regarded as 'worship', you just know it's personal.