Carly-May Kavanagh

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There are rumours circulating on Twitter that Carly-May Kavanagh (the one who screams at babies: Daily Mail) has, despite her “apology” been suspended from the Labour Party. Presumably such a suspension would have an impact on her job as Lloyd Russell-Moyle‘s head of policy?

Apparently if she is suspended it [probably] won’t be made public. Given the reason for her [potential] suspension; if Labour actually do take action, you’d think they’d want to reassure people that they expect their members to uphold certain standards. I mean, “not screaming abuse at infants” is less upholding a standard than it is failing to trip over pebbles of basic decency…

Clearly one cannot put too much weight into Random Person Says Unevidenced Thing. However, it would be a foolish rumour to start without cause, so I thought it was worth starting a thread here to see if there are developments to follow.

Should Kavanagh face consequences for her behaviour it will be a watershed moment: Labour acknowledging women have rights all their own, including the rights to assemble & to speak on issues of concern to them, such as their need for single sex provisions.

Andy Ngo and Nigel Farage discussing how 'black and brown people' want to destroy the United States.

That is an extraordinary interpretation of the video 😮
Black and brown people are only discussed in terms of being more likely to be victims of violence.

When have feminists said they want to be in partnership with the far right?

Sappho

You are not in any sense an unintelligent person, so I can only conclude that you are either so blinkered by your politics that you can't see the wood for the trees, or not posting in good faith.

How dare you say that I am indecent for thinking that the answer to racial and political problems in the states is more complex than closing police departments.

FFS

you have been comprehensively proved to have misinterpreted that video and all you have is 'oh my god really?' ?

do you not have the capacity to re-examine your opinions or wonder why you believe what you believe?

The point it that most people in Brighton (and most decent people) will be more aligned with the politics of CMK than Andy Ngo.

No, most "decent people" won't be more aligned with the politics of Fascist Baby Shouter. As proved by it going viral around the world.

When have feminists said they want to be in partnership with the far right?

They definitely don't want that. Hence why many feminists (Julie Bindel, Kathleen Stock etc) want nothing to do with Posie Parker.

Do they not teach critical thought anymore? do people not research instead of taking shit at face value?. I feel like you've been told that NGO is a racist far right extremist by your cabal and just blindly took that on board without actually looking and listening for yourself. You just posted a clip that talks about increased murder rates since police defunding which is all FACT and claimed that proves he's a racist, because you've been told NGO bad Carly good...

2 legs bad 4 legs good

Andy NGO’s book is published by Hatchette.

www.hachette.co.uk/titles/andy-ngo/unmasked/9781546059578/

Hardly fringe stuff - pretty mainstream really.
Hatchette famously stood by JK:
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/jk-rowling-hachette-book-staff-employees-boycott-trans-row-a9570436.html

This Saph’s quote:
There were fascists there. Lots of high profile people on the far right. Andy Ngo was there for goodness sake.

Similar ruptures happened at another publishing company over Jordan Peterson…
theboar.org/2020/12/publishing-staffers-protest-new-jordan-peterson-book/

Pattern forming? Loads of people seem to think JP is some sort of far right thought leader but if you actually listen to him (I accidentally heard his YouTube chat with Stephen Fry whilst I was up a ladder and unable to reach it to skip) either a) it’s obviously an absurd accusation or b) JP is extremely crafty at hiding his far right opinions!

So, ARE JK, JP, and Ngo all Far Right?

Or are they just people who are smeared as being far right because they don’t have idenikit left opinions? And perhaps more pertinently, because they’ve all spoken out about trans related topics, either directly or indirectly?
(an awfully high percentage of the Antifa organisers documented in NGO’s book are transitioned or NB identifying males).

Seeing as political metaphorical babies are incapable of telling fascists from literal babies perhaps it’s unsurprising that others in similar social and political circles can’t tell a centre right/mainstream conservative journo from a ‘high profile figure on the far right’?

i don’t personally know Andy Ngo, maybe he also shouts at babies or steals from charity change boxes or something.
What I do know is that the people who say terrible things about him are the same people who call us ‘Prosecco Stormfront’

So when the 'left' are being racist by saying 'black women are women in the same way that transwomen are women' where does that position them?

KJK doesn't consider herself a feminist, she considers herself a "women's and children's rights activist", she thinks feminism is a pointless academic talking shop. I don't entirely agree with that idea but I am seeing why she believes it.

So when the 'left' are being racist by saying 'black women are women in the same way that transwomen are women' where does that position them?

And gleefully seeking out black women with dreadlocks so they can throw glitter into them.

She's a complete idiot for shouting at the baby but I can understand why the presence of racists may have upset her, hence why I feel a bit sorry for her.

Most of us manage to control our behaviour around small children.

I can't believe you haven't distanced yourself more from it.

<am being sarcastic, you're not responsible for what she did>

Oh my God really? Let's not get into an analysis of whether being racist counts as being far right

oh come on..lets chill with the really

people are racist, left wing people, right wing people, centerists

its very hard to ask questions and read a debate when the first step is ‘if you are racist you must be far right’

Exactly.

When men can become women, the left behave just the right and still think they are on the 'right side of history'.

It just proves how nonsensical it all is.

No.

Sappho. You need to back up your claims.

Did you take this clip and it’s interpretation from the same group that has vilified KJK for objecting to the female body being commoditised?

If so, you must at this point wondering if you can trust them and their world view.

If you cannot post evidence, it is clear you don’t actually understand who is to be listened to and who isn’t. Isn’t it a bit bigoted to make unfounded accusations based on your own misinterpretations?

Honestly, I give up.

Andy NGO isn't racist, he was just having a nice chat with Nigel Farage (who also isn't racist) about how anti racism politics are destroying America.

Posie Parker also just wanted a nice little chat in the park with some women. She didn't deliberately invite any racists along, she didn't know they were there and anyway they're not racist (see above).

Carly May Kavanagh is the devil incarnate.

Any feminist who doesn't hero worship Posie Parker including Julie Bindel and Kathleen stock are disgusting.

Mumsnet is a weird place.

Has KJK said that she wants to be in partnership with the far right? I missed that. Do you have a link?

Last I saw Kathleen Stock was saying KJK's activism was "highly astute and very effective" and that there was "room for all". That was a while ago though. Has she since climbed down from that position?

Andy NGO isn't racist, he was just having a nice chat with Nigel Farage (who also isn't racist) about how anti racism politics are destroying America

didnt say this…has anyone

Posie Parker also just wanted a nice little chat in the park with some women. She didn't deliberately invite any racists along, she didn't know they were there and anyway they're not racist (see above).

ive no idea if she invited them or not…still no evidence

Carly May Kavanagh is the devil incarnate

nope

Any feminist who doesn't hero worship Posie Parker including Julie Bindel and Kathleen stock are disgusting

i dont hero worship her

Mumsnet is a weird place

agreed

how anti racism politics are destroying America.

Calling BLM/Antifa "anti racism politics" as if that's all it stands for is disingenuous.

Read again - she is referring to people not wanting to partner with the far right, hence not wanting to partner PP.

She is unequivocally stating that PP is herself far right. I think this is a disgusting slur

Oh fair enough @Signalbox I didn't know Kathleen Stock had changed her mind about PP. Thanks for letting me know.