Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine

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Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit grower statement

A statement from the owner reads in part:

Downtime Update as of August 26th, 2022

"What I fear more than losing my site, being sued, or dealing with police is living in a world where [REDACTED] can [REDACTED] little boys and girls into [REDACTED] and [REDACTED], while normal people are not allowed to even discuss it.

The mob has already planned subsequent targets. Should we stay down, they will then attack 'gender critical' communities - especially those ran by and for women. No place can exist online which allows criticism of their [REDACTED], and nothing would excite them more than this power and domination struggle being inflicted on a female space instead."

I would link to the statement on the Internet Archive aka "Wayback Machine" but it has made all pages archived from the relevant site unsearchable (or deleted?).

Mumsnet does not permit links to the site Archive Today so that is out too.

1st Thread Antipodean fruit grower statement
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4620584-antipodean-fruit-grower-statement

Have you never heard of Maximilien Robespierre

I was going to mention him last night but I thought I might be accused of threatening to guillotine people by certain posters so I deleted that bit.

I almost posted the 1793 painting ‘La Mort de Marat or Marat Assassiné’ by Jacques-Louis David but you never can tell what the historically illiterate might mistake for a threat nowadays…

Latest update from the Farms:

“I'm going to take the weekend off.

On Monday, I am going to start reformatting, rebuilding, and fortifying the setup. I don't know if that means the site will be up Monday.
Over the week, I've managed to file some tickets to get work done with the networking/router but that's still not 100% setup yet.
I've thought about how I want to secure the forum moving forward and I will explain that later.

Regarding the breach,

• I've not seen any verification of a leak of username / email addresses.
• I've decided I will not allow account deletion when the site comes back up.

Since the hack in 2019, the registration warning was written with two things in mind:

1. That if the site goes down suddenly I can communicate with users.
2. That if the site gets hacked there should be nothing to leak.

This includes banning work and education emails, providing guides on how to maintain your digital privacy, encouraging forwarding emails instead of throwaways, and generally reminding people to practice info hygiene as much as possible.

I really hope this incident, regardless of its long term consequences and the fate of the site as a whole, reminds people that we are - as Curtis Yarvin likes to say - "prey animals". If you want to enjoy free discussion (regardless of how and where), you are not in power. You must abide by certain legal limitations, or the government hammer falls on you. If you abide by legal limitations but piss off too many people, the criminal hammer falls on you and the government will let it happen.

That is to say, you're being observed and hunted at the same time, so act like it. Take your digital presence seriously or you'll have to deal with the freaks trying to scare people into submission.”

Pleased to this amendment to the previous update and that Moon has got his mailing address reinstated:

My mailing address at 913 Beal Parkway has been terminated. If you sent mail there, you will receive a return to sender

Edit: This has been corrected.

latest from the Farms:

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A lot of standard setup I was hoping to breeze through has ended up consuming much more time than I would have liked. As I mentioned, I reformatted everything and what I didn't reformat I've upgraded to latest versions. Configuring everything again is taking longer than expected.

The list looks like this. They're in order by how they should be done, but coincidentally also complexity. A lot of things are half configured at this point.

✔️ Backup database restored.
✔️ Files synchronized.
✔️ Self-hosted DNS.
❌ Primary web servers configured.
❌ Secondary web servers configured.
❌ Tertiary web servers configured.
❌ DNS round-robin with healthchecks.
❌ Automated backups reconfigured.
❌ Email server NS records working.
❌ Mass mandatory password reset.
❌ GamerGate 2

(If you're concerned about the password reset, I don't know what to tell you. I have to reset the passwords and I explicitly warned you not to use a throwaway because you would eventually need to reset your password. Figure out what a fucking password manager is, good lord.)

See you tomorrow.

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Has anyone heard any updates re: Keffals? That reminds me, I still have the second episode of Blocked and Reported to listen to!

That reminds me, I still have the second episode of Blocked and Reported to listen to!

You should!

Tucker Carlson?

Where is the popcorn eating MJ gif when you need it?

The Kiwi lives.

Tantrums from those against free speech will be incoming I’m sure.

Wow it really is working as normal.
Well done Josh.

They still don't have the security of Cloudflare.

A livestream that interviewed one of the hackers revealed Joshua is incompetent regarding security and the forums were hacked because of an exploit that has been known about for over a decade (which Cloudflare would have protected against).

The people who still use it must be very loyal if they don't mind the fact it has to change domain about once a week and that half the time it won't load and that it's so vulnerable security-wise.

The people who still use it must be very loyal

On revisiting some of the culture threads I am beginning to understand why. Really interesting discussion there, sharp, funny, irreverent and erudite.

Link please.

That's odd previous post did not include my text

@MargaritaPie do you have a link please

The only time one of my email addresses has ever come up in a security breach jobby it was from the Cafe Press website.

Getting pictures of the kids printed on coasters for granny is just so dangerous nowadays…

The only time my email address has come up in a security breach was from Mumsnet. Which is when I moved to a completely separate one only for MN and no rl details shared for MN surveys etc.

Amusing to see Marge putting the equivalent of Here Be Dragons!!! around any mention of KF . Like it’s in any way different from the vast majority of the internet for anyone who wants to state biological reality.

Loads of companies have had data hacks.

BA, John Lewis, Deliveroo, IBM, Barclays, Boots, Virgin Media, Tesco.

Mumsnet too, yet here you are @MargaritaPie

Ooh, tell a lie, it’s happened to me twice. The other one was House, the interior design ideas website.

Best not be logging in anywhere in pursuit of soft furnishings inspiration!

A live stream? You really have to be in the thick of it to know when these shadowy kind of things happen. Its not as though they announce these live streams in normal everyday places.

Who did the live stream?
Any link to a saved video of it?
Who was the hacker or did they affiliate themselves with a group?

Talking of data breaches, didn't Mermaids get fined by the ICO for one a little while ago?

This one?

ico.org.uk/about-the-ico/media-centre/news-and-blogs/2021/07/ico-fines-transgender-charity-for-data-protection-breach-exposing-sensitive-personal-data/

The ICO found that the group was created with insufficiently secure settings, leading to approximately 780 pages of confidential emails to be viewable online for nearly three years. This led to personal information, such as names and email addresses, of 550 people being searchable online. The personal data of 24 of those people was sensitive as it revealed how the person was coping and feeling, with a further 15 classified as special category data as mental and physical health and sexual orientation were exposed.

Seems even the US Government aren't competent WRT to security. Worse still they didn't even notice for about 8 months. Oops

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_federal_government_data_breach

Yes that's it!

"During the investigation the ICO discovered Mermaids had a negligent approach towards data protection with inadequate policies and a lack of training for staff."

They obviously just couldn't give a fuck about those kids.

Weird that Keffals tweets using the same the sort of slang that our Marge sees as beyond the pale over when it’s used over on the farms.

As a side note, it’s nice to see that for all the trans activists slating of ‘Terf Island’, they know that they aren’t actually in any physical danger here.

I’m genuinely pleased that our island is so genteel and accepting that over the last decade or so there have been more murderers from under the trans umbrella than there have been murder victims.

Of course, if your political ‘enemies’ are a load of middle aged mums on a parenting website, the probability of violence is statistically extremely unlikely. We might have big handbags but it’s the other side who are carrying smoke bombs and knives (and bottles of wee).

Weird that they aren't bothered about being misgendered. I thought it was actual violence etc.