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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Antipodean fruit grower statement

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nothingcomestonothing · 27/08/2022 13:44

The antipodean fruit growers site is down. A statement from the owner reads in part:

What I fear more than losing my site, being sued, or dealing with police is living in a world where [redacted by me as would be against MN talk guidelines] while normal people are not allowed to even discuss it.

The mob has already planned subsequent targets. Should we stay down, they will then attack 'gender critical' communities - especially those ran by and for women. No place can exist online which criticizes [redacted], and nothing would excite them more than this power and domination struggle being inflicted on a female space instead.

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TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 04/09/2022 20:55

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ArabellaScott · 04/09/2022 20:57

TheClogLady · 04/09/2022 20:20

You can use the highlight function to skim a thread - the little double arrows next the word highlight will take you to the next highly rated (by registered users) comment.

You’ll still get some bad language but the highest marks (I think!) are via the ‘Informative’ rating so you tend to get the properly evidenced/useful stuff rather than the shit posts.

‘Highlights’ works without a log in.

Thank you!

ArabellaScott · 04/09/2022 21:15

Screenshots on there of people saying KF users should be shot.

I mean, if it only takes one threat of violence then wtf is Twitter doing still up?

MargaritaPie · 04/09/2022 21:27

I've seen a threat of violence made against Matthew Prince on there too.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2022 21:27

I know Arabella, it's amazing this has never been paid attention to before, such as when women are told to die in a fire so frequently. Perhaps this is the dawn of a new era of website safety.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 04/09/2022 21:28

MargaritaPie · 04/09/2022 21:27

I've seen a threat of violence made against Matthew Prince on there too.

In the last 5 minutes?

MargaritaPie · 04/09/2022 21:31

I'm seeing a lot of posts there that are just the N-word. Is kiwifarms full of racists, or is a bunch of 12 year olds trying to sound edgy?

Just curious.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2022 21:34

I don't know, maybe you can make an account there and ask them? They welcome questions from new accounts, I think.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 04/09/2022 21:39

Yeah what eresh said

you seem to have read a 72 page thread on there so youve been there longer than i have….you’ve probably got a better feel for the place

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 04/09/2022 21:39

They're saying that the person at the centre of this is planning to go after 4chan. Hope it's true. I know 4chan isn't the force it once was but it still seems like an unusually bad idea.

MargaritaPie · 04/09/2022 21:40

And then they stalk me and publish all my and my family's personal information when they find out I am LGBT-supportive?

KatVonlabonk · 04/09/2022 21:42

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 04/09/2022 21:28

In the last 5 minutes?

LOL Rufus

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/09/2022 21:45

And then they stalk me and publish all my and my family's personal information when they find out I am LGBT-supportive?

I don't think you'll be at the top of their list but it's generally best to err on the side of caution.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 04/09/2022 21:51

I don’t think you are even on the list but as eresh said better be safe than sorry

(she didnt say that but what she did say was near enough)

picklemewalnuts · 04/09/2022 21:55

Using really nasty words about someone isn't actually a threat. All I've seen on that thread are really nasty adjectives for a man they are really pissed off with.

I mean, it's a bit immature. Like shouting "Mummy's a poo head!"
Not actually a threat though.

Terfydactyl · 04/09/2022 21:56

MargaritaPie · 04/09/2022 20:51

I've had a brief look at that thread on kiwifarms. I couldn't access it on my computer because the connection is unsecure but my phone let me access it.

I've seen violent threats made towards transpeople and some very disgusting vile remarks made towards them.

Oh noes, people being mean.
And when jk stated she could paper her walls with the threats she had received, you were worried for her safety yes?
Or were you in fact somewhere else entirely, maybe baking a cake or something irl, you can always go find those threads you completely missed somehow and say you utterly abhor threats from named or anonymous people to others. And making threats of any kind is utterly childish and stupidity personified or the like.

ScreamingMeMe · 04/09/2022 22:06

MargaritaPie · 04/09/2022 21:40

And then they stalk me and publish all my and my family's personal information when they find out I am LGBT-supportive?

That is not what they 'target ' people for. But I think you know that.

Fizzynonsense · 04/09/2022 22:33

Only people who stalked, doxed and threatened me were TRAs.

Some of the Farmers did what they are not supposed to do and white-knighted, and carried out a DDOS attack on the website that was literally targeting my children.

(I have no idea who did this and don’t condone criminal activity but I appreciated the gesture. It gave us 48 hours respite).

MargaritaPie · 05/09/2022 00:48

"when jk stated she could paper her walls with the threats she had received,"

Did she go to the police? Have charges been pressed against the people making the threats?

"That is not what they 'target ' people for. But I think you know that."

All the information I've read on kiwifarms so far, including content on their forums, would suggest they are a hate forum and pose a credible threat towards transpeople and potentially others.

MargaritaPie · 05/09/2022 00:52

Fizzynonsense · 04/09/2022 22:33

Only people who stalked, doxed and threatened me were TRAs.

Some of the Farmers did what they are not supposed to do and white-knighted, and carried out a DDOS attack on the website that was literally targeting my children.

(I have no idea who did this and don’t condone criminal activity but I appreciated the gesture. It gave us 48 hours respite).

So is kiwifarms some sort of organised crime website where criminals gather to plan attacks?

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 05/09/2022 00:59

Oh noes, people being mean
You lose all credibility when you come out with crap like that

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 05/09/2022 01:02

Or were you in fact somewhere else entirely, maybe baking a cake or something irl
😕😂 What has baking a cake got to do with anything, is that what you think being a woman entails so you're projecting it onto being trans?!
Mind boggles lol

ToGanymedeAndTitan · 05/09/2022 01:04

and say you utterly abhor threats from named or anonymous people to others. And making threats of any kind is utterly childish and stupidity personified or the like.
I personally have always said any threats to anyone is abhorrent and should be dealt with
Whichever so called "side" it's coming from

GrimDamnFanjo · 05/09/2022 01:42

TheClogLady · 04/09/2022 20:36

Copy and paste from a comment over there (retracted a word for the sake of Mumsnet sensibilities)

To emphasize, Cloudflare has been extremely good to me. I spend thousands per month for their services. My technical account manager is going to reach out to me to see why I rescinded my services after seven years on Monday, a US holiday, and I’m going to cite this very specific case where it’s seemingly OK to harbor a predatory [censored word] campaign with intent to groom minors versus a gossip site which exists freely on the Internet.

Vote with your wallet if you can. If you use Cloudflare, their competition basically begs for your patronage. I am now saving a ton of money by finally moving over to their direct competition.

Mumsnet uses Cloudflare, right? I wonder if Justine would consider a switch?

Who is the competitor?

Fizzynonsense · 05/09/2022 03:12

So is kiwifarms some sort of organised crime website where criminals gather to plan attacks?

Why don’t you look and find out?

Nobody on KF took responsibility, they just pointed out the blog was down and laughed. The only reason I suspect it was a Farmer was because the site published a post saying “bloody KiwiFarmers, I’ve upped my bandwidth” on its return.

Its a bit hypocritical to complain about a DDOS on a site publishing rape and violent threats and targeting primary school children, when the only reason people wanted Cloudflare to remove protection was in order to carry out the same felony.

The only credible threat KF poses is to the reputations of those who are trying to hide previous criminal or sexually predatory behaviour.

One feature most lolcows have in common is that once their past behaviour is exposed, they escalate and frantically do all they can to cover it up, either by litigation (Null has a very funny “take that off the internet” thread) or by doing like Keffals.

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